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Cit Publishes Response To David Chandler & Jonathan Cole's Joint Statement About The 9/11 Pentagon Attack

Craig Ranke CIT
post Feb 4 2011, 04:32 AM
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We've been put in the difficult position of having to defend ourselves against people whose work regarding the destruction of the World Trade Center we respect and appreciate. Although we had never spoken to David Chandler or Jonathan Cole prior to the publication of their "joint statement" on the Pentagon attack, we had always considered them natural allies, had never badmouthed them or had any inclination to do so, and had even praised their work.

Unfortunately they did not have the courtesy or sense to get in touch with us to see if we had any responses to their apparent serious issues with our work before publicly denouncing it. The result, as we have now documented in great detail, was a simplistic, horribly sloppy, and defamatory essay which reveals that, at best, they had barely spent any time at all on our website, let alone bothered to view our extensive catalog of video presentations to familiarize themselves with the full scope -- or even many of the basics -- of the evidence we present, or us personally, before rushing to judgment and aggressively attacking us.

Due to the frequent and extreme falsity of their claims, a very lengthy response was necessitated. Sometimes a single sentence would have multiple false and/or misleading claims requiring several paragraphs to untangle. We'd have preferred a shorter rebuttal, but there was no other way to do it if we were to remain accurate and thorough, as we strive to do in everything we publish.

While it was frankly quite obnoxious to have to spend so much time refuting a such a simplistic and shoddy essay that these two men clearly did not put much time into at all, the silver lining is that it gave us an opportunity to address their essay in the context of the dishonest and dishonorable campaign being waged against CIT by a relatively small clique which has gained control over 911Blogger.com, where we are not only "censored", but more importantly, attacked on a virtually daily basis with misinformation and disinformation and denied a "right of reply". For some reason David Chandler apparently has no problem with this situation considering that he published the "joint statement" by him and Jonathan Cole there and then further badmouthed us and our work in the comments section.

Given these circumstances, and the wide-ranging nature of our response to David Chandler and Jonathan Cole, we ask you to please set aside AT LEAST an hour or two to read our response in full so that you can hear our perspective. Unlike Chandler and Cole's essay, our response is heavily sourced, so if you can set aside extra time to REALLY dig into its contents and follow the links and sources, even if you do so over the course of several days, this will give you a MUCH more detailed look at the intricacies of what is going on here, and we feel that the reality of the situation will become that much more clear to you. This is an especially important thing for you to do if you are a regular reader of 911Blogger, since this means that you have likely spent hours over the past months or even years reading the frequent bogus attacks against us which we are forbidden from responding to.

I'd like to thank our webmaster for his critical help with writing this response and putting it together. Please pass it along to anyone you can and encourage them to read it. Thank you for paying attention to both sides of this manufactured controversy by reading our entire response:

http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/CI...agon-Statement/

Sincerely,
Craig Ranke
Citizen Investigation Team


P.S. There will also be a podcast forthcoming to address some of the additional points discussed by David Chandler in his recent interview with John Bursill on this topic.

Index and "jump to" links for our response:Originally published here.
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post Feb 4 2011, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 2 2011, 08:50 PM) *
Slice, if the north side of the Citgo flight path alone was 100% accepted by the mainstream public we'd see the same thing.


the mainstream public is a little slow. you would need to spell it out to them. i've read tons of stuff on the stockholm syndrome. what is conspicuously missing is literature/documentation on how to combat it.
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- Craig Ranke CIT   Cit Publishes Response To David Chandler & Jonathan Cole's Joint Statement About The 9/11 Pentagon Attack   Feb 4 2011, 04:32 AM
- - SanderO   Craig, I support CIT's work and certainly the...   Feb 4 2011, 07:54 AM
- - 23investigator   Indeed --   Feb 4 2011, 10:39 AM
- - onesliceshort   Nice work!   Feb 4 2011, 10:58 AM
- - rob balsamo   Nice job Craig. I sent this letter out to Jonath...   Feb 4 2011, 11:14 AM
- - BADBURD   I was reading what they were saying about CIT on t...   Feb 4 2011, 11:58 AM
- - GroundPounder   nice olive branch rob. i cannot believe that the ...   Feb 4 2011, 01:32 PM
- - SwingDangler   Very well spoken Craig. I read the entire publishe...   Feb 4 2011, 01:34 PM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (SwingDangler @ Feb 4 2011, 06:34 P...   Feb 4 2011, 02:19 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   This gif says a lot.   Feb 4 2011, 02:22 PM
- - wilddaddy   Swingdangler....That was an awesome post. Thank y...   Feb 4 2011, 02:51 PM
- - dv8   Magnificent response Craig and CIT,,,very professi...   Feb 4 2011, 03:01 PM
- - kawika   Hello Craig. Not just you. Did you see how SnowC...   Feb 4 2011, 03:49 PM
- - onesliceshort   Will Chandler and Cole recognize the negative and ...   Feb 4 2011, 05:47 PM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Feb 4 2011, 10:47 ...   Feb 4 2011, 06:50 PM
||- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 4 2011, 11...   Feb 4 2011, 10:49 PM
||- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Feb 5 2011, 03:49 ...   Feb 4 2011, 11:00 PM
||- - CuriousGeorge2   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Feb 4 2011, 09:49 ...   Feb 5 2011, 11:51 AM
|- - gerryhiles   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Feb 4 2011, 05:47 ...   Feb 5 2011, 05:56 PM
|- - jfetzer   Well, I have had more than my share of interaction...   Feb 5 2011, 06:07 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 2 2011, 08...   Feb 4 2011, 07:35 PM
|- - Miss Mab   I just wanted to lend my support and appreciation ...   Feb 4 2011, 08:14 PM
|- - KP50   QUOTE (Miss Mab @ Feb 5 2011, 01:14 PM) I...   Feb 4 2011, 10:11 PM
- - amazed!   Those guys are desperate. They have chosen to def...   Feb 4 2011, 10:39 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi Aldo! Great work! I have a question a...   Feb 4 2011, 11:25 PM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Feb 5 2011, 03:25 AM...   Feb 5 2011, 02:08 AM
||- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 5 2011, 01...   Feb 5 2011, 02:55 AM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (tnemelckram @ Feb 5 2011, 04:25 AM...   Feb 5 2011, 05:50 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Feb 5 2011, 04:5...   Feb 5 2011, 06:13 AM
- - jfetzer   Craig has authored an excellent response to Chandl...   Feb 4 2011, 11:36 PM
- - maturin42   CIT's long-form rebuttal of the Chandler/Cole ...   Feb 5 2011, 12:50 AM
|- - SanderO   QUOTE (maturin42 @ Feb 4 2011, 11:50 PM) ...   Feb 5 2011, 09:20 AM
- - Tamborine man   Snow Crash at 9/11 blogger 22/12 - 10, responding ...   Feb 5 2011, 01:32 AM
- - aerohead   Nice work guys. Im still in the middle of reading...   Feb 5 2011, 03:14 AM
|- - jfetzer   The Sandia test bears no comparison to either the ...   Feb 5 2011, 04:14 PM
|- - aerohead   QUOTE (jfetzer @ Feb 5 2011, 03:14 PM)The...   Feb 5 2011, 05:23 PM
|- - jfetzer   aerohead, Just for the record in relation to your...   Feb 5 2011, 05:45 PM
|- - Shallel   QUOTE (jfetzer @ Feb 3 2011, 07:45 PM) ae...   Feb 5 2011, 07:18 PM
- - albertchampion   what more can be said? as you got to the truth abo...   Feb 5 2011, 04:38 AM
|- - aerohead   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Feb 5 2011, 03:38...   Feb 5 2011, 05:21 AM
|- - 23investigator   QUOTE (aerohead @ Feb 5 2011, 07:51 PM) A...   Feb 5 2011, 05:38 AM
- - Westgate   Craig - I have your DVD and have watched it severa...   Feb 5 2011, 09:29 AM
- - SanderO   Westgate's comment touches on several importan...   Feb 5 2011, 10:28 AM
- - Atomicbomb   I read the entire response from CIT to Chandler an...   Feb 5 2011, 11:41 AM
|- - jfetzer   Adam, Just to pick up on your theme condemning ce...   Feb 5 2011, 05:24 PM
|- - jfetzer   The thread, "Was Video Fakery Employed on 9/1...   Feb 5 2011, 06:12 PM
|- - Atomicbomb   QUOTE (jfetzer @ Feb 5 2011, 01:24 PM) Ad...   Feb 8 2011, 08:37 AM
- - ErinMyers   SanderO: I'm not sure if I've ever met in...   Feb 5 2011, 11:58 AM
- - GreekForTruth   Hey guys & gals It's very plain & sim...   Feb 5 2011, 01:58 PM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (GreekForTruth @ Feb 5 2011, 05:58 ...   Feb 5 2011, 04:14 PM
- - aerohead   Everyone within the truth movement needs to realiz...   Feb 5 2011, 02:42 PM
- - Marigold   QUOTE (Atomicbomb @ Feb 5 2011, 07:41 AM)...   Feb 5 2011, 02:48 PM
- - SanderO   Adam Ruff, Exquisitely crafted comment. I second...   Feb 5 2011, 03:12 PM
- - GroundPounder   when the cheshire cat says, "we're all ma...   Feb 5 2011, 03:24 PM
- - GroundPounder   sure, yeah, let's compare a 29535 lb empty wei...   Feb 5 2011, 05:21 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Of course, here comes Jim Fetzer pulling his Killt...   Feb 5 2011, 07:20 PM
|- - Shallel   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 3 2011, 09...   Feb 5 2011, 07:29 PM
||- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (Shallel @ Feb 5 2011, 11:29 PM) So...   Feb 5 2011, 08:57 PM
|- - jfetzer   Well, this is most interesting. I came to SUPPORT...   Feb 6 2011, 12:36 PM
|- - aerohead   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 5 2011, 06...   Feb 6 2011, 05:02 PM
- - wilddaddy   Mr. Ranke and Marquis, I just finished reading yo...   Feb 5 2011, 09:42 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Wow, Tim. That was a very moving letter of approva...   Feb 5 2011, 10:11 PM
- - SanderO   Tim.... David Chandler is a retired physics teach...   Feb 5 2011, 10:24 PM
|- - aerohead   QUOTE (SanderO @ Feb 5 2011, 09:24 PM) Th...   Feb 6 2011, 12:37 AM
|- - jfetzer   The differences in the modes of destruction of the...   Feb 6 2011, 01:05 PM
- - tnemelckram   Bump to keep this important thread on top.   Feb 5 2011, 11:43 PM
- - Michael Morrissey   Excellent contribution, Craig et al., and my comme...   Feb 6 2011, 03:19 AM
- - Lasthorseman   I have this penchant for the outrageous which ofte...   Feb 6 2011, 07:52 AM
- - GroundPounder   anonymity is not what it used to be. ultimately in...   Feb 6 2011, 09:08 AM
- - DoYouEverWonder   Hey PTF, Could we split out the posts in this thr...   Feb 6 2011, 11:11 AM
- - amazed!   Excellent post by Jim Fetzer. It is true that wit...   Feb 6 2011, 01:01 PM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (amazed! @ Feb 6 2011, 12:01 PM...   Feb 6 2011, 01:58 PM
|- - jfetzer   Why are you suggesting I am "stalking" o...   Feb 6 2011, 02:59 PM
- - SanderO   I agree with Fetzer's thing in the above post....   Feb 6 2011, 01:19 PM
- - DonM   Prof Fetzer, I just got back from reading "Th...   Feb 6 2011, 02:03 PM
- - SanderO   I started another thread... Junk Science Meets Re...   Feb 6 2011, 02:34 PM
- - aerohead   Im not here (this thread) to argue with people abo...   Feb 6 2011, 03:26 PM
|- - jfetzer   I don't know who appointed you ARBITER OF TRUT...   Feb 6 2011, 03:37 PM
|- - aerohead   QUOTE (jfetzer @ Feb 6 2011, 02:37 PM)I d...   Feb 6 2011, 04:16 PM
|- - jfetzer   There are a lot of tightly interrelated issues her...   Feb 6 2011, 04:49 PM
- - mainer   I really appreciate your taking the time to respon...   Feb 6 2011, 04:54 PM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (mainer @ Feb 6 2011, 09:54 PM) I r...   Feb 6 2011, 06:34 PM
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|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (amazed! @ Feb 6 2011, 04:02 PM...   Feb 6 2011, 05:48 PM
|- - jfetzer   amazed, My response to you has been moved to the ...   Feb 7 2011, 03:50 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Thank you Aero and DYEW. I am not trying to get i...   Feb 6 2011, 06:00 PM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 6 2011, 05...   Feb 6 2011, 06:02 PM
|- - SanderO   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Feb 6 2011, 05...   Feb 6 2011, 06:38 PM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (SanderO @ Feb 6 2011, 10:38 PM) Be...   Feb 6 2011, 10:04 PM
- - tnemelckram   Hi All! Kodos to SanderO for starting a new t...   Feb 6 2011, 11:51 PM
- - rob balsamo   I have split off-topic posts and moved it here. h...   Feb 7 2011, 03:10 PM
- - jfetzer   Atomicbomb, Thanks for this excellent post. As it...   Feb 8 2011, 11:47 AM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE I have just discovered a short piece by Chan...   Feb 8 2011, 03:36 PM
|- - jfetzer   You read my statement of support for your research...   Feb 8 2011, 04:20 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (jfetzer @ Feb 6 2011, 01:47 PM) Th...   Feb 8 2011, 01:44 PM
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- - onesliceshort   QUOTE The CIT videos donít qualify as scientific s...   Feb 8 2011, 03:06 PM
- - DonM   Aldo, Jim was asking if you had responded to Chand...   Feb 8 2011, 03:42 PM
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