2 Questions: Mike Low's Calling Card & Woman Ong Consults?

post Oct 11 2013, 11:19 PM
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Can someone please explain to me how the calling card system works? How can one successfully charge a call to someone else's number?:

'Her [flight attendant Sara Low's] father, Mike Low, later says he learned from FBI records that his daughter had given her childhood home phone number in Arkansas to another of the flight attendants, Amy Sweeney, for her to report the hijacking. Low speculates that the reason his daughter gave this particular number was that she had just moved home, and so, in the stress of the hijacking, her childhood phone number was the only one she could remember.' ~ [US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division, 7/31/2006; New York Times, 9/4/2007]

“We had been notified by the FBI some years ago that the calls made from Flight 11 were charged to our phone calling card,” he [Mike Low] said. ~ Arkansas Online.com

Here are the call records if it helps:

Plus, can anyone confirm for me who the American-accented woman flight attendant Betty Ong consults aboard Flight 11 is, who answers (at 1:37):

"I don't know, but Karen and - BOBBY got stabbed." ?


Based on what I've read so far online, astonishingly, no one else seems to know nor care who she is.
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post Oct 30 2013, 02:02 AM
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If I may put in yet another inconsistency into an ocean of inconsistencies. On Wikipedia it says that an FAA memo from 2001 says that Daniel M Lewin (former Sayeret Matkal) was shot by Satam al-Suqami after he attempted to foil the hijacking. So there were gun shots on American Airlines 11.

Lewin was the inventor of the algorithms which became the basis for Akamai Technologies, which he co-founded with Professor F. Thomson Leighton in 1998.

Akamai Technologies produce the algorithms used in most internet firewalls (Zone Alarm). You're probably using one right now reading this.

"Akamai Technologies ... provides, among other services, global Internet content caching."

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post Oct 31 2013, 09:36 PM
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'...Steve Elson, a former FAA airport-security inspector and Red Team member, doubts it was written in error.

He says the memo was generated late afternoon on Sept. 11 by the FAA Emergency Operations Center and “hand-delivered” to FAA Administrator Jane Garvey. He claims to know the author, and trusts its accuracy.

“The specificity of the wording – passenger seat numbers, who shot whom and the firing of a single bullet – makes an error unlikely,” he said in an interview with WorldNetDaily.com.

~ http://www.wnd.com/2002/02/12955/#L1fSEMv364E0RsXa.99

I don't believe that there were any hijackers aboard any of the planes, nor stabbings.
If this incident did occur, then I suspect that he was coaxed behind a curtain, in a prepared forward galley (making sure of no incriminating gore), then executed with a silenced pistol - back of the head.

Given the reporting, it seems they made a hash of it.
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post Nov 21 2013, 05:41 PM
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*Sigh* Update:

After watching the 2003 Japanese television experiment, the weakness of Popular Mechanics' Democracy Now-Loose Change and 9/11 Myths.com's debunking on this issue; I'm now sympathetic to the many, many, sceptics who have persistently pointed out, that the cell phones could not have worked at the higher altitudes alleged.

Therefore I'm now presuming that cell phone soundboarding was conducted from the ground, via the victims' stolen SIM cards.

Here's a video demonstrating the son of former Republican Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, hoax phone calling his father, using sound samples from the then Republican Governor of California: Arnold Schwarzenegger:


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post Nov 23 2013, 02:31 AM
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My apologies if this is already well known and much discussed, but I just found this peculiarity:



Public Hearing

Tuesday, January 27, 2004
MR. [THOMAS H.] KEAN: We will now hear the recordings from the two phone calls. The first phone call was placed from Betty Ong aboard the Flight 11 to Ms. Gonzalez. We'll hear the entire four and a half minutes that was recorded on that call. ...

You may hear a momentary blank on the tape. The Commission edited a very small portion in order to protect one family member from unnecessary pain....

I wonder whose idea that was?

I gather from several sources, that the redacted victim was the alleged least harmed (even superficially) of the two flight attendants: Barbara ("Bobbie") Jean Arestegui (#5).
Whose name the authorities are withholding here, more than two years after her well-publicized murder; yet are content to potentially upset the more seriously stabbed and similarly murdered flight attendant Karen Martin's family.
Now, it's possible that Arestegui had a more sensitive kinsman who requested the omission; but in the complete version, there's imo a sonic discontinuity exactly at the uttering of the name: "Bobbie": http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/world...3MCK_video.html @ 1:33.

Global Research's Elizabeth Woodworth pointed out ten years after the event:

'Ong asks someone returning from business class, which people have been stabbed. An unidentified background voice, sounding almost cheerful, says “I don’t know, but Karen and Bobbie got stabbed.”


And the New York Times (also in 2011): 'Background [Inaudible] I don’t know, but Karen and Bobby got stabbed.'


9/11 Commission records:

'BETTY ONG: They wanna know whose been stabbed who. Do you know?

'(UNIDENTIFIED FA): I don't know, but, Karen and Bobbie got stabbed.
' ~ http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Image:Te...ht11Calls.1.pdf

There are only 5 possible flight attendants that the mystery woman could be; who (far as I can tell) we are to rely on for our sole source of stab victim-identification.

If I'm correct, is this not a ludicrous situation?

We could be listening to an actress added in the almost two and a half year interim.

Do we know if any of the American Airlines Reservations Office staff, confirmed this version's authenticity before it publicly transpired?

This entire consultation gets no mention in the aforementioned hearing's transcript:

'BETTY ONG: I'm sitting in the back. Somebody's coming back from business. If you can hold on for one second, they're coming back.

BETTY ONG: Okay. Our number 1 got stabbed. Our purser is stabbed. Nobody knows who is stabbed who, and we can't even get up to business class right now cause nobody can breathe. Our number 1 is stabbed right now. And who else is . . .

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- poppyburner   2 Questions: Mike Low's Calling Card & Woman Ong Consults?   Oct 11 2013, 11:19 PM
- - amazed!   Reading the transcripts, one cannot help but notic...   Oct 12 2013, 10:30 AM
|- - poppyburner   QUOTE (amazed! @ Oct 12 2013, 02:30 P...   Oct 12 2013, 08:58 PM
|- - poppyburner   QUOTE (poppyburner @ Oct 13 2013, 12:58 A...   Oct 21 2013, 10:20 PM
- - FirstUsedBooks   QUOTE (poppyburner @ Oct 11 2013, 07:19 P...   Oct 12 2013, 01:00 PM
|- - poppyburner   QUOTE (FirstUsedBooks @ Oct 12 2013, 05:0...   Oct 12 2013, 08:25 PM
- - Albemarle   A calling card has a unique account number and a p...   Oct 12 2013, 08:43 PM
|- - poppyburner   Albemarle, Ah, so you're saying that: Sara L...   Oct 12 2013, 09:18 PM
|- - Albemarle   I didn't see a clear statement by anyone that ...   Oct 12 2013, 11:38 PM
|- - poppyburner   'it's hard to believe that flight attendan...   Oct 13 2013, 08:56 PM
- - poppyburner   Addendum: Perhaps, Sweeney needed the card for ca...   Oct 14 2013, 09:03 PM
- - roscoe   If I may put in yet another inconsistency into an ...   Oct 30 2013, 02:02 AM
|- - poppyburner   '...Steve Elson, a former FAA airport-security...   Oct 31 2013, 09:36 PM
|- - poppyburner   *Sigh* Update: After watching the 2003 Japanese t...   Nov 21 2013, 05:41 PM
|- - poppyburner   My apologies if this is already well known and muc...   Nov 23 2013, 02:31 AM
- - amazed!   Interesting stuff Poppy. The Commission was not...   Nov 23 2013, 03:02 PM
- - poppyburner   Amazed!, By: eliminated from the public view; ...   Nov 24 2013, 09:54 PM

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