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White Jet Analysis, Plane Seen Flying Over Pentagon/DC

pinnacle
post Mar 23 2007, 06:01 PM
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It is really interesting that White Jet Analysis continues to get so many viewings yet very few new postings. I wonder who is reading all this?
I just wanted to say that I had checked through a number of enormous
9/11 "archive" sights which seem to be completely unaware of the many audio and video news reports of the infamous "white plane" and have no pictures of it whatsoever.
Not one document or "personal story" from any of the hundreds of eyewitnesses. Funny how this subject continues to be very effectively suppressed everywhere except on this website.
Still waiting on FOIA information from multiple sources.
Stay tuned.
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post Mar 23 2007, 07:26 PM
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Hats off Pinnacle. Dont' worry, some times it just takes time.
Several years in my personal FOIA case.
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post Mar 23 2007, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (pinnacle @ Mar 23 2007, 06:01 PM)
It is really interesting that White Jet Analysis continues to get so many viewings yet very few new postings. I wonder who is reading all this?

Its linked at the main website...


You and BoneZ did/are doing a great job on this analysis.
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post Mar 24 2007, 08:39 AM
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Report: white plane circling the White House

ABC News

CNN

NBC

This one is very interesting :-)

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post Mar 25 2007, 12:33 AM
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For some reason I cannot view the NBC video. Can you describe it?
Is it the report over a cellphone to Katie Couric?
Do they show the plane? Is their any time reference?
Is it described as "a government plane of some kind."?
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post Mar 25 2007, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (pinnacle @ Mar 25 2007, 04:33 AM)
For some reason I cannot view the NBC video. Can you describe it?
Is it the report over a cellphone to Katie Couric?
Do they show the plane? Is their any time reference?
Is it described as "a government plane of some kind."?

Pinnacle, all I can get is the video, not audio so I can't help much, but the NBC footage is "Live EDT" World Trade Center New York City with both towers standing. Hence, broadcast sometime before 9:58 AM. Nothing shown in the video except the towers.

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QUOTE (pinnacle @ Mar 24 2007, 11:33 PM)
For some reason I cannot view the NBC video. Can you describe it?
Is it the report over a cellphone to Katie Couric?
Do they show the plane? Is their any time reference?
Is it described as "a government plane of some kind."?

White plane broadcast timing

NBC

The segment is from this this file at about 1:10 so it's been broadcasted at 9:55 a.m. and it's Bob Kur speaking

Video on Daily Motion

(maybe you can't listen to audio because it was set to minimum.. in either case I've uploaded the segment here

He talks about seeing the plane after the evacuation of the White House and describes it as “a white plane, a large jet”, “a government plane of some kind”



CNN

The first segment is from this this file and starts at about 9:53/9:54 am (John King speaking)

Daily Motion video

Video uploaded here

transcript
Just moments ago they started slowing evacuating the White House about 30 minutes ago. Then, in the last five minute people have come running out of the White House and the old executive office building, which is the office building right directly across from the White House.

About 10 minutes ago, there was a white jet circling overhead. Now, you generally don't see planes in the area over the White House. That is restricted air space. No reason to believe that this jet was there for any nefarious purposes, but the Secret Service was very concerned, pointing up at the jet in the sky.

It is out of sight now, best we can tell


Ten minutes ago.. so it's about 9:43/9:44

The second segment is from this file and starts at about 10:16 a.m.E.T.[/url]

Daily Motion video

Video uploaded here

transcript
I am a couple blocks away from the Capitol right now. I can tell you about a half hour ago, the Capitol building itself was evacuated. It was a little bit chaotic. Everyone was running out of the building. People ran a couple of blocks away. Now have now been pushed back by security. We're within two blocks of the Capitol.

I did see a plane, about a half hour ago, circling over the Capitol. Now whether that may have been a Air Force plane, it's unclear. But that seemed to be the reason, according to security guards that I talked with, towards the evacuation of the Capitol.


Half hour ago so it's about 9:45/9:46



ABC News

Daily motion video

Video uploaded here

There is a plane circling the White House at the moment and they're clearing the grounds there

The time is 9:41 E.T. (8:41 C.T.)


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post Mar 28 2007, 05:25 PM
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It is very interesting that all of these reports put the start of the evacuation of the White House before 9:40 am when the "official" timeline has it at about 9:50 am.
Linda Brookhart says she took her picture of the "white jet" before the
Pentagon was hit and she and her group of 26 people had already walked about half a block after being escorted out of the Old Executive Office Building by the Uniformed Secret Service Guards and being told that a plane was heading for the White House.
These real time reports all seem to agree with her on this since nobody reporting at this time had any awareness that the Pentagon had been hit yet even though the smoke would have been clearly visible to all the White House reporters with cell phones standing in Lafayette Park.
How did the Uniformed Secret Service guards know that a plane was headed their way when they are in the public area of the White House and not in the bunker with
Vice President Cheney where the communications equipment is located?
At this time even NORAD supposedly did not have this information.
Why did the 9./11 Commission never ask them?
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post Mar 30 2007, 05:26 PM
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A story should be appearing soon with quotes from Linda Brookhart about her White Plane photo. It may include information from some of the network news reporters to saw the White Plane as well.
The United States Secret Service informs me they are processing my FOIA request for all records of the White Plane incident that were generated by Secret Service personnel. Still no word from FAA on the radar scans of Washington DC airspace.
The White Jet circles like a big white vulture. It cannot be ignored forever
by the mainstream media because they themselves put it on the record.
Operation ECONCOM will not work.
As Justice Robert Jackson said
"Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard.
Authority here is to be controlled by public opinion, not public opinion by authority."
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Article on Rense.com

The 911 Mystery Plane

rense.com/general76/missing.htm
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The reason I am confident that the "white jet" is the smoking gun of the 9/11 cover-up is the fact than none of the "usual suspect" debunkers I have sent this information to in the past year has offered any explanation for this aircraft, or any aircraft, being in restricted airspace at 9:40 am on 9/11.
In fact most don't even respond or in any way acknowledge that I contacted them.
If this were a tin foil hat kind of thing they would love to make a big deal out of it, but it is obviously real and unexplanable in the context of a "surprise
attack" and a "confused" US air force. And of course the official denials only make it more significant.
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post Apr 10 2007, 01:37 PM
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Just wanted to update that the May 1, 2001 Operational Reporting Order
changes included the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center as
one of the recipents of any FLASH--OPREP-3 --PINNACLE FRONT BURNER
report of a hijacking which means the E-4B was considered equal to the
National Military Command Center in importance.
If the order was carried out the E-4B would have known of the first
hijack at about 8:42 am and everyone in the chain of command should have know
within seconds since the entire purpose of the E-4B's existence was worldwide
instant communications.
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post Apr 14 2007, 11:56 PM
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The website of the 1ST AIRBORNE COMMAND AND CONTROL SQUADRON,
who exclusively fly the four E-4B NAOC aircraft, has been removed from the internet.
I wonder what that means?
Questions submitted to their parent organization, the 55th Reconnasisance Wing, have gotten no reponse. They will not confirm the written statement
of November 8, 2006 from the Congressional Inquiry Division of the Department of the Air Force in the Pentagon.
Why?
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post Apr 15 2007, 10:05 AM
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Pinnacle posted recently that
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The website of the 1ST AIRBORNE COMMAND AND CONTROL SQUADRON,
who exclusively fly the four E-4B NAOC aircraft, has been removed from the internet.


So, I did some digging around in the internet archives.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010916083504/...1ACCS/1accs.htm found here- http://web.archive.org/web/20010306185818/...cs/1accsweb.htm shows pre-9/11.
Not much there, either way. Apparently, it was available at least through May of last year, and no doubt longer...

Here are a couple of the best pics I found of two of the four E4-B aircraft- I don't have any pics which I can clearly identify as being the other two planes- tail #s 31677 and 50125. If you want more images you can use the tail # links provided to google some- tail # 40787 here and tail #31676 here
(update- this looks to me like tail # 31676 again archived here


Oh, yeah. One other thing- Cynthia McKinney's 9/11 Commission Report One Year Later (the huge 305 page .pdf) is 404. Archived here though. Back 'em up early and often folks. The McKinney document never made it into the internet archive.

Edited to correct tail #50125 (I had read that it was #20125, but it is clearly not- see this post for pic

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Very interesting. Why so many pages archived immediately after 9/11?
Also why did the page get removed at all? Did the air force suddenly decide these guys were not supposed to get any more publicity?
My first FOIA request to the FAA on this subject was just days before the last posted 1st ACCS webpage in May of 2006.
FAA still won't give me the radar records I requested at the time.
Also many videos of the "white plane" began appearing on the internet at this time and maybe the air force did not want it to be to easy for people to verify that the white plane looks like the E-4B and start asking questions as I have tried to do without any reply from the 55th Wing's "chief of community relations", who supposedly is there for the express purpose of answering questions from the public.
Copies of the archived 1st ACCS page and the dates of the postings will go in with all the other stuff for my ever-growing congressional information package.
It all adds to the big picture on this. Pelosi, Waxman, Kucinich etc. will all get this
material.
I think it is significant that Popular Mechanics has still not tried to debunk the
"white plane". They know there is to much evidence.
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The CNN "white plane whitewash" was carried out very quickly after 9/11.
On September 17, 2001 they had already removed all references to the
flyover of the four engine E-4B "doomsday plane",
reported by both CNN White House correspondent John King and CNN Capitol correspondent Kate Snow, from their timeline of 9/11.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.hijack.warning/

Listen to John King and Kate Snow on this website.

www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/america.remembers/sept11.section.html

King describes the evacuation of the White House but of course makes no mention of the huge white jet circling overhead that he reported at the time . Same for Kate Snow who said she saw the plane fly over the Capitol dome and that it was the cause of the evacuation.

So far CNN has not responded to any questions about this revision of history
which their own reporters witnessed with their own eyes.
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I notice that taxpayer dollars are used to support the U S State Department website that debunks 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and I also notice they rely on Popular Mechanics as a source of debunking information.
I have sent a lot of facts about the White Jet story to both the State Department and Popular Mechanics but neither is willing to even try and debunk it.
In fact both refuse to respond in any way just like CNN and the Air Force.
The White Jet continues to confound official explanations at every turn.
I really want these paid debunkers to give us their lame account of what the White Jet was doing in restricted airspace on 9/11. What are they afraid of?



http://usinfo.state.gov/media/media_resour...nformation.html.
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Get this.
The State Department "Counter-Misinformation" division has finally replied to my
emails.
They have pages dedicated to debunking 9/11 conspiacy theories and denegrating United States Citizens who dare question the official version of 9/11,
and promoting Popular Mechanics Magazine as a reliable source of 9/11 information.
But in response to the "white jet" to information I sent I was told by a
"counter-misinformation officer".


"US law does not permit employees of the bureau of the State Department in which I work to respond to queries from within the United States."

So people have full time government jobs debunking 9/11 and the targets of the debunking are not allowed to defend themselves or even ask any questions
of this one-sided misinformation operation.
Isn't this blatantly unAmerican?
Why isn't the news media making a big deal out of this kind of
Orwellian taxpayer-funded government propaganda?
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post Apr 25 2007, 04:14 AM
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Pretty damned disgusting really.
Time and tax payers money spent for debunking 9/11.
Not enough time and money spent on actually investigating it in the first place.
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"US law does not permit employees of the bureau of the State Department in which I work to respond to queries from within the United States."


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What kind of bizaroo sh*t is this?

What law? What bureau?

And is he saying if he moved to another country he would have the Freedom to respond, but b/c he's in the US, he can't?

Holy retards...
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