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The Root Of All Evil Is Ourselves, You're in a trap with no logic answer

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post Apr 15 2009, 04:19 PM
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Reductio ad absurdum


"Money is the root of all evil."

Money has its own root: banks, and more to the point, bankers. But the banker's actions have their own root: self-centeredness, greed, insecurity, ignorance, fear. Paper or metal money itself is not evil except to the extent that it is used, and the source of this whole scam is the banker, and the corruption of the banker is a human moral corruption. Also everyone who participates in the use and support of the monetary system becomes a partner in the scheme, whether willing or not.

"The NWO is the root of all evil."

This effort also requires people. These people also have their personal imbalances (moral corruption, whatever you want to call it), just the same as you or I, but which drive their ambitions to dominate other people. And of course these people would actually be in a position to express these imbalanced parts of their personalities in powerful ways.


So I could go on for just about anything else anyone could throw at me, before going into subconscious/unconscious forces that are at work collectively, through all of us. That's the point I am getting at: universal human faults which we ALL share are the driving mechanism behind our corrupt ways of living today.

The corruption is present at the top, but through the mentalities expressed every day on TV, newspapers, casual conversation, etc., that same corruption influences the mentalities and therefore behaviors of every person that is involved with our society. And one might argue that we all had these tendencies from the start, that it doesn't matter WHO gets into these offices or positions of power, they will ALWAYS have the same human tendencies to corruption!


If you don't think you contribute your own part, do you own a car? Have you bought gas lately? Or have you benefited in any way from anyone who does have a car and does pay for gas? Electricity, any commercial goods. You probably get where I'm going, that you are supporting these same industries that neglect you. We first neglect the awareness and will power to avoid these industries, and then in return they neglect us in many other ways. It is a trap with no answer that seems entirely satisfactory.


I offer this as food for thought, that while the world may seem like a mess, the real mess is in our own heads, and until we learn how to maturely interact with one another, and learn what "harmony" means exactly, we will continue to poop where we eat and eat where we poop, and it doesn't matter what names or faces you see on TV: it will always recur.

So history repeats itself again, because no one ever really learns.

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post Apr 17 2009, 09:01 PM
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Often misquoted as 'money is the root of all evil'. Originates in the Bible, Timothy 6:10 (King James Version):

' For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. '


money is a tool, like a hammer, neither good nor bad.
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post Apr 17 2009, 09:41 PM
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yes, real money[gold, silver, for instance] has no ambitions, no defects. it is a weight of value.

years ago, ayn rand in her cathartic novel, atlas shrugged, wrote an insightful disquisiton concerning money and evil.

money is neutral. human beings are the shapechangers.

honi soit qui mal y pense. the motto for the order of the garter. it can be translated two ways, i think.

honor be to the individual who is honorable.

but i have heard the reverse, evil be to the individual who acts dishonorably.

where is scrooge mcduck when we need him to sort all of this out.

and where are the beagle boys, now? in washington. working for obombya?

so many mysteries.
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post Apr 18 2009, 12:23 AM
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I think a better way to look at this is that
the root of ourselves, certainly isn't money.
...and I don't think it is, or could be, evil either.

The concept of good and evil is sort of divisive,
perhaps right and wrong are more correct,
as compared to light and darkness.
Light and anti-light...
No, that's just too weird.

The reality-that is, vs the fantasy-that's given, to believe.
Any evil is the outcome of the ones spreading the fantasy,
made to get evil carried out by those who still believe that
fantasy.

"'When it turns out that the facts are not true,
behind the reasons for the things that we do,
doesn't that leave just, me and you,
without a paddle...or two?"
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post Apr 18 2009, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (bsbray @ Apr 15 2009, 08:19 PM) *
I offer this as food for thought, that while the world may seem like a mess, the real mess is in our own heads, and until we learn how to maturely interact with one another, and learn what "harmony" means exactly, we will continue to poop where we eat and eat where we poop, and it doesn't matter what names or faces you see on TV: it will always recur.

So history repeats itself again, because no one ever really learns.


Absolutely.

But perhaps the time has come for us to finally learn?

There certainly seem to be an increasing number of us beginning to 'wake up' to all this. Can but hope.

On the 'good' and 'evil' thing... I'm inclined to think that 'good' may be when we / our actions are in "harmony" with the whole of whatever we are part of; 'evil', the opposite. But that's just a wee theory.
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post Apr 18 2009, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (bsbray @ Apr 15 2009, 09:19 PM) *
Reductio ad absurdum


"Money is the root of all evil."

I offer this as food for thought, that while the world may seem like a mess, the real mess is in our own heads, and until we learn how to maturely interact with one another, and learn what "harmony" means exactly, we will continue to poop where we eat and eat where we poop, and it doesn't matter what names or faces you see on TV: it will always recur.

So history repeats itself again, because no one ever really learns.


We are mostly the the creation of our environment, and to the point where we can modify our environment we can also modify human behaviour, pointing fingers at individuals or even groups is in the final analysis pointless. I am sure the elites also see themselves as moral individuals, who do destructive things for the greater good...We need to go beyond this good and evil, religious concept of humanity. Meeting basic human needs so that individuals can develop their potentials is a first step, as long as we see it as an investment and not a handout, also having an honest monetary system is a must obviously.

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Hi, root searchers.

I would not put the word "evil" here. It's too "religious".

But, I remember talking with someone, this week about the "problems" of
planet Earth, and we concluded something like that:

All the problems on earth are caused by:
religions, petrol, pharmacy and armament related businesses.
! ! ! ! OHHHH ! ! and GREED ! ! ! !

And we talked about we HAVE to watch CLOSELY: "codex alimentarius" !
and Monsanto. . .and their "Round-up ready foods" ! SCARY !

Blue skies.
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post Apr 20 2009, 12:11 AM
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Greed in people is being used to control the world.
The whole corrupt system needs greed in people,
as part of its' recipe. Fear is another tactic, used.

It's about power and control, everything else is below.
There must be some cold calculating people running this whole world,
and they aren't elected or known of, by the public.
They know the greed in people and utilize this, to keep that power and control.

This is one tough nut to crack.

They need us to see each other as a threat to bring in their next system.
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Quality of posts >> quantity of posts

If this is your one post of 2009 (to continue a yearly trend) then I am glad i read it! Very well said.
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QUOTE (lunk @ Apr 20 2009, 05:11 AM) *
Greed in people is being used to control the world.
The whole corrupt system needs greed in people,
as part of its' recipe. Fear is another tactic, used.

It's about power and control, everything else is below.
There must be some cold calculating people running this whole world,
and they aren't elected or known of, by the public.
They know the greed in people and utilize this, to keep that power and control.

This is one tough nut to crack.

They need us to see each other as a threat to bring in their next system.


Absolutely!

So we need not to fall for it.

Rampant greed?
No need.
Be free:
Just be.
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post Apr 21 2009, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE
Greed in people is being used to control the world.
The whole corrupt system needs greed in people,
as part of its' recipe. Fear is another tactic, used.

It's about power and control, everything else is below.
There must be some cold calculating people running this whole world,
and they aren't elected or known of, by the public.


A big DITTO from me too. When I realized that the housing bubble was created on the basis of the desire of 'everyman' to get a free-ride on the back of the housing bubble - as a set-up to this crash - I understood their genius.

Unfortunately, it's a wave that is all but irresistable in the modern world - they counted on that and succeeded. Now we have to pay the piper - but, interestingly, 'now' is our chance, if we can educate people to the reality, IMO. They ™ are crushing America in order to rebuild it to their specs. There is also the opportunity to rebuild it to OUR specs, which 'they' don't anticipate. Admittedly, it will take a lot of work to thwart their plans, but there are so many out there trying so hard.
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