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Eye Witnesses

rockymtriser
post Apr 27 2014, 03:52 AM
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So, I got drawn into a discussion with some "no-planers". I have previously avoided this argument, because it just comes across to me as ludicrous. I also feel that those promoting such theories have hindered the 9/11 Truth movement considerably, since such outrageous theories only tend to turn away rational minded people and encourage them to label all investigators of 9/11 truth as "conspiracy nuts".

But, then, I can recall thinking that anything outside of the official story was "nuts", and even treasonous. It took 7 years for me to open my eyes and look seriously into what really happened. Needless to say, once I investigated, my opinion turned around 180. So now I try to be more careful about pre-judging things...

So I got into this discussion with a couple people who are convinced that no planes hit the twin towers, that all of the video evidence of such was just computer generated graphics, a manipulation to fool the masses. I emphasized that their theory has gone astray because they are ignoring evidence, namely: eye witnesses. People saw the planes hit the buildings. (Exactly what planes is another debate, as all I've heard tends to suggest they were not actually flight AA11 and UA175, but more likely were remote controlled military planes...) I have seen interviews with eye witnesses; the no-planers respond they were lying, a part of the conspiracy. I say, those on record are but the smallest tip of the iceberg of total witnesses. In a city of over 8 million people, with smoke billowing from one of their most famous and tallest buildings after the first plane hit, surely hundreds or thousands of people were watching when the second plane showed up.

But here's the problem: I don't know any of those witnesses personally. I can't say "I know so-and-so, and they, or someone they know well and trust, did indeed witness the plane hit the building." Until I find such, I am at a disadvantage in this argument. So I have begun searching for witnesses, not only so I can speak more convincingly, but so I can know in my own mind more surely. I mean, I have been wrong before. Evidence means everything.

So I asked a couple close friends so far. One does know a witness who was in NYC on 9/11, on the opposite side of the south tower, and heard, but did not see, what she thought was an airplane and then the crash. The other friend knows of no one, though she is a deeply involved activist. She suggested that I ask here on Pilots For 9/11 Truth.

So, can anyone here tell me, did you, or someone you know and trust, actually SEE a plane collide with WTC1 or WTC2?
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CharlesGWright
post Apr 27 2014, 06:57 AM
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yes this is a topic that needs to be acknowledged

what caught my attention is the video from the helicopter showing the nose of the plane go all the way thru the building and come out intact on the other side

fragile fiber glass nose cones covering the radar antenna can not do that

the man operating the camera that "captured" this shot was an expert in layering of images........

it was this image feed that became the image that was sent around the world and sent over and over until the image was embeded in our minds with trauma

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post May 24 2015, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (CharlesGWright @ Apr 27 2014, 06:57 AM) *
yes this is a topic that needs to be acknowledged

what caught my attention is the video from the helicopter showing the nose of the plane go all the way thru the building and come out intact on the other side

fragile fiber glass nose cones covering the radar antenna can not do that

the man operating the camera that "captured" this shot was an expert in layering of images........

it was this image feed that became the image that was sent around the world and sent over and over until the image was embeded in our minds with trauma



It's posts like yours that keep me thinking that somehow or other, all the TV feeds of the south tower impact contained digital effects of that impact, enhancement.

Otherwise what actually happened is that a modified 767 did strike the building, and left parts on the street below, as in the Burlington Coat Factory artifacts.
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- rockymtriser   Eye Witnesses   Apr 27 2014, 03:52 AM
- - lfecher   QUOTE (rockymtriser @ Apr 27 2014, 02:52 ...   Apr 27 2014, 04:22 AM
- - lfecher   Any investigator will tell you that during a traum...   Apr 27 2014, 04:33 AM
|- - MikeR   QUOTE (lfecher @ Apr 27 2014, 08:33 PM) A...   Apr 27 2014, 08:40 AM
- - CharlesGWright   yes this is a topic that needs to be acknowledged ...   Apr 27 2014, 06:57 AM
|- - CharlesGWright   QUOTE (CharlesGWright @ Apr 27 2014, 05:5...   Apr 27 2014, 07:11 AM
|- - amazed!   QUOTE (CharlesGWright @ Apr 27 2014, 06:5...   May 24 2015, 01:16 PM
- - paulmichael   QUOTE (rockymtriser @ Apr 27 2014, 02:52 ...   Apr 27 2014, 07:21 AM
- - MikeR   QUOTE (rockymtriser @ Apr 27 2014, 07:52 ...   Apr 27 2014, 08:21 AM
- - Bruce Sinclair   A friend of mine had a perfectly unobstructed view...   Apr 27 2014, 09:09 AM
|- - amazed!   QUOTE (Bruce Sinclair @ Apr 27 2014, 09:0...   May 24 2015, 01:20 PM
- - iceni   the Hezarkhani video. Notice that the tail of the ...   Apr 27 2014, 10:43 AM
- - kawika   FFS! What is it with the no-planers anyway? ...   Apr 27 2014, 11:03 AM
|- - amazed!   QUOTE (kawika @ Apr 27 2014, 11:03 AM) FF...   Apr 27 2014, 11:17 AM
|- - MikeR   QUOTE (kawika @ Apr 28 2014, 03:03 AM) FF...   Apr 28 2014, 10:35 PM
- - rockymtriser   Thank you for your responses lfecher, CharlesGWrig...   Apr 28 2014, 02:33 AM
- - rockymtriser   I can see how this issue could become a boxing mat...   Apr 29 2014, 01:18 AM
|- - realitycheck77   [/quote] One thing I came to realize thanks to Bar...   Apr 29 2014, 11:45 PM
- - rockymtriser   QUOTE If the Pentagon had not been attacked and th...   Apr 30 2014, 02:07 AM
- - Tamborine man   I shall keep repeating the following, again and ag...   Apr 30 2014, 11:17 PM
- - rockymtriser   So true...   May 1 2014, 05:53 AM


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