Illuminati Bloodlines, videos Options

[Quest]

I never really paid much attention to this stuff before because it sounded, well, kinda hoaky. After looking into it more, I am starting to firmly believe there is something to it. Goobers with funny hats and rockets, trying to take over the world. Whoda thunk it? The Neocons and their opportunists (Bush) sidekicks appear to be running the show but if you look closer, it looks like the Illuminati/Freemason runs right through all of this crap. That would include the Civil War, both World Wars and 911 itself; in a drive toward one world government led by Masons/Illuminati descendants. You'll also find that many of the names that show up include some of the more common terms and names when discussing 911, such as Skull and Bones and Rothschild.

Fascinating stuff.

If interested, start with Illuminati Bloodlines, Parts 7 and 8 to get a taste and then start from the beginning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW05VtXl5ps

The below site lays out what has been a long plan to bring the planet under one-world government pitting religion-against religion in order to destroy all of them and once again finds Masons to be the driving force. After the 3rd World War, the New World Order is ushered in led by Freemasons.

http://threeworldwars.com/overview.htm

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 22 2007, 08:18 PM

[Quest]

Ooppss!

Corrected link below.

Illuminati Bloodlines of Power, Parts 1-31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW05VtXl5ps
Pay close attention to Part 11/31.


This guy is also worth a watch.

Fritz Springmeier - Bloodlines of the Illuminati and Mind Control
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...s&search=Search

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 22 2007, 09:19 PM

[Quest]

In part 11/31 it is noted that Bush is a distant cousin of Queen Elizabeth II and that the Genealogy Society of New England has "confirmed that 19 US presidents were descendants of King Edward the 3rd of England". Interesting.....

Watching part 11/31 is a must!

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 22 2007, 10:51 PM

[grizz]

The threeworldwars website is interesting. Read this:

http://threeworldwars.com/new-world-order.htm

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Why the Conspiracy is Unknown

The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us. Most people react with disbelief and skepticism towards the topic, unaware that they have been conditioned (brainwashed) to react with skepticism by institutional and media influences. Author and de-programmer Fritz Springmeier (The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines) says that most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides", Springmeier reports, is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead ends a person's thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people.

What most people believe to be "Public Opinion" is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioral response from the public. Public opinion polls are really taken with the intent of gauging the public's acceptance of the New World Order's planned programs. A strong showing in the polls tells them that the programming is "taking", while a poor showing tells the NWO manipulators that they have to recast or "tweak" the programming until the desired response is achieved.

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[Quest]

I HIGHLY recommend watching Illuminati Bloodlines Of Power. It is one of the most complete and information packed documentaries yet on the power elite, their history and networks ranging from the Civil War to 911. Wow!

Illuminati Bloodlines of Power.
Parts 1 - 31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW05VtXl5ps

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 23 2007, 12:26 AM

[CocaineImportAge...]

.....uncanny resemblance of the face on the Statue of Liberty to Cleopatra Selene!?!

... 1min` 50 secs` into part 9...

...only watched a couple so far but worth a look!

[Sanders]

Hmmm.

I watched the whole 5 hours of the flick that all of this came from (twice).

Here's a link to another thread about the original piece, "Ring of Power", with some comments.

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum...showtopic=9581

Anyone who really wants to dig into this should read the entire article about the tribe of dan, I have linked the best (or at least the most relevant) 3 parts of a many part series.

She (I'm assuming the narrrator is the maker?) addresses a much ignored topic that needs attention and she provides many good clues, I appreciate the effort, but she gets alot of stuff demonstrably wrong in the original piece. I didn't watch the parts that Quest linked here, since I've seen the whole thing twice, so I can't speak to the info in those parts - but ... I'd recommend gleening the valuable clues from this flick, and doing your own fact checking. I won't warn anyone about accepting her conclusions, because I don't know what it is she concludes - that is my biggest gripe with this effort - the dots aren't really connected. Part of the reason is, she is missing many pieces.

Missing pieces:

King John made a deal in the early 12th century with the pope - John had previously been excommunicated, meaning his whole country of England was excommunicated - and so no one in England could get to heaven. So he traded his crown (became a vassal of the Pope) in return for his and England's papal forgiveness. How is that significant? Why is it said that the true power of the Crown resides in the City of London (ancestoral home of the pope's army, the Templar Knights)? She (in Ring of Power) talks about the Vatican and the City of London, both sovereign states, yet she doesn't touch on the Templars. The Templars are the founders of the modern Banking and Legal professions, and their ancient home, the Crown Temple Church at the western edge of the City, is the current home of the International Bar Association - the Bank of England is down the street. Is there a connection between the historical affinity of the tribe of dan for the color red, the Red and White stipes of the Viking ships, and the Red Cross on White used by the Templars (to say nothing of the ways that these red on white stripes and crosses are found on the British and American flags? Go though history, and you will never find the world's two most powerful Sea-Trading powers, England and the Netherlands, fighting each other. Why? Why is it that the Bilderberg Group was founded by a Dutch King? How can she not touch on this stuff? It is an integral piece to the puzzle she is trying to solve. I haven't solved it, no one has that I know of - but she is ignorant of important pieces IMO.

I know this post will sound sort of crazy, but I've spent a lot of time on this. Some good stuff in this flick - I just don't trust her fact-checking, and I would love for someone to figure out how all the pieces fit together.

I am sure though, that the tribe of dan, the Templars,the Vatican, the red on white theme, the banking and legal professions, the long alliances between England and the countries of Denmark and Holland, the current elite, all these things are connected.

Another interesting thing she DIDN'T mention, is how the Rothschilds fit into this (or, should I say, more meaningfully, how they DON'T fit into this (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ... maybe I'll just have to complete my research and make my own movie (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif) )

Thanx anyway for the link, Quest, forgive me for sounding critical. It is a deep and important subject, I appreciate any treatment of it, for it invites discussion.

[Quest]

No problem at all Sanders. I do think you're being overly critical but that's OK. You must remember that nothing is perfect and if we waited for perfection, nothing would ever be accomplished. Personally speaking, it wasn't hard to connect the dots after seeing this.

That the international bankers have been funding both sides of wars and their Freemason connections are very notable, IMO. That A Rothschild is the highest ranking official under the queen is also important as is the fact that elite power has LONG been kept "in the family". It's not hard to connect the dots after seeing this.

In any event, I strongly urge everyone to watch this video to get an idea who the western international power structure came to be and it's relentless push for war.

P.S. She definitely went into the Rothschild and in detail no less. I'll respond to that later.

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 23 2007, 03:59 PM

[Sanders]

I really don't think I'm being overly critical, actually I was trying to be nice. Some of the flaws in the original piece are flagrant (!) She just shoots herself in the foot. She puts the responsiblity of sorting the facts from the fiction on the viewer's shoulders. Out of laziness. Or, people believe it all and go spewing "facts" that are untrue (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif)

When a topic is this complex and convoluted and spead out over thousands of years, you really have to understand the subject (and connect the dots) to be able to make such broad assumptions - I get the feeling the maker of this flick has not.

This is a film of CLUES.

What if I tell you, "The moon is made of cheese, 9/11 was an inside job, Al Gore is a lizard." How would you respond?? THAT'S my problem with this person's work. Rothschilds own 500 trillion worth? - how is that different from "the moon is made of cheese"? How should I evaluate a film made up of 50% valuable info combined with 50% un-fact-checked crap??

This kind of stuff makes me very angry, yet, we need more of it -

I wish fervently that someone would make a really good flick about this topic.

And, since I haven't done it myself, I concede that I have little right to criticise.

[Quest]

Sanders, yes, it is a film of clues. What is wrong with that? I didn't say it nails the 911 perps and nor does the filmmaker claim it. What it DOES do is provide CONTEXT. Got it? The more pieces we have of the puzzle, the better to fill in the gaps.

This film looks at most of the central bank and robber baron players, thier history and how things came about to provide a climate in which 911 took place; not to mention the Civil War, WW1 and WW2 and Vietnam. This film basically steps the viewer through history and looks at those involved in various financial and war crimes.

Question; How many here knew how pervasive the phenomenon of British royal ancestry in American politics? Aside from the commonly known distant relationship between Kerry and Bush, very few I'll bet are aware of the British Royalty connection. How many here knew that the Queen of England's most important adviser is a Rothschild? Probably close to none. How many know of the possible Hitler/London connection and his partial Jewish heritage, and the killing of the investigator looking into this? Many suspected Hitler to be an actual agent working for the NWO and purposely leading Germany to ruin as did I. The same may hold true for the "Cold War" between the US and former WW2 ally, the USSR, whose Bolshevik revolution was, once again, financed by western banking elite. Are we seeing a pattern here? I could go on and on but you get the drift. This film fleshed out these points and MUCH more.

If you want to tear it up, bro, go for it. I still find this film intriguing and educational.

Peace. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

This post has been edited by Quest: Oct 23 2007, 11:14 PM

[Wingmaster05]

(edited because I didn't watch the film (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

DEFINITELY worth checking out if the most controversial movie you've seen is Zeitgeist. The parts that you think are embellished should encourage you to do more digging. It will give you a much broader understanding of world control.

This post has been edited by Wingmaster05: Oct 23 2007, 10:31 PM

[Sanders]

I guess you're right, Quest. Hopefully this will have an overall good effect and inform some people. I just have a problem with the sloppiness of the research, because it puts the entire piece & this alternate view of history at risk of criticism/debunking. (I never criticised it for not "nailing the perps" - that's not what I have a problem with).

[Quest]

I guess you're right, Quest. Hopefully this will have an overall good effect and inform some people. I just have a problem with the sloppiness of the research, because it puts the entire piece & this alternate view of history at risk of criticism/debunking. (I never criticised it for not "nailing the perps" - that's not what I have a problem with).

No problem bro. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Quest]

(edited because I didn't watch the film (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

DEFINITELY worth checking out if the most controversial movie you've seen is Zeitgeist. The parts that you think are embellished should encourage you to do more digging. It will give you a much broader understanding of world control.

Just watched it this weekend. I thought it was very good and will recommend it to others. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

[Wingmaster05]

(edited because I didn't watch the film (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

DEFINITELY worth checking out if the most controversial movie you've seen is Zeitgeist.  The parts that you think are embellished should encourage you to do more digging.  It will give you a much broader understanding of world control.

Just watched it this weekend. I thought it was very good and will recommend it to others. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

Yes, and my apologies for being brief; before my edit I had written about fritz springmeier's video is similar and that definitely helped to wake me up.