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OGCT True Believers Bullshit Excuses, Need help to sink OGCT True Believers BS Excuses

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post May 21 2008, 10:18 PM
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You so-called debunker's actually believe that sagging trusses could pull down the 47 center box columns as they "supposedly" gave way at a rate of 10 floors a second?!?!?! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif) Wow!! talk about suspending reality, now there's a stretch.
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post May 21 2008, 10:31 PM
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc_1975_fire.html

Ummm, no collapse...
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post May 21 2008, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 21 2008, 08:37 PM) *
nicepants:"Are you suggesting that the lower floors should have caused a deceleration?"


Bingo! Give the man a lolipop!


Are you suggesting that the collapse should have gotten slower and slower until it eventually just stopped?

QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 21 2008, 08:40 PM) *
The mass was pulverized into fine dust by explosives and the dust drifted away.

Have you bothered to consider the amount of explosives that would be required to do what you're suggesting?

QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 21 2008, 08:40 PM) *
Therefore, there was no weight coming down on the lower floors from the upper floors, because the weight had been displaced into the air.


Aside from the initial absurdity, there were many large pieces of debris in the pile of rubble after the collapse which indicate that your theory is incorrect.
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post May 21 2008, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (DonM @ May 21 2008, 08:52 PM) *
Exactly! There have been several studies that have shown that the mass of the dust spread around NYC was a pretty good approximation of the mass of the towers.


Link to any of those studies?
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post May 21 2008, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE (nicepants @ May 21 2008, 10:38 PM) *
Have you bothered to consider the amount of explosives that would be required to do what you're suggesting?



So, it takes alot of explosives to take down the WTC after a 767 hits it (or not in the case of WTC7)? Or is it just a few fires...


I think im going to start a Demolition Company... i may name it: Fires-R-Us. We light a trash can full of printer paper under a steel column on a Class A OSHA Building and take down a 47 story building without any expense for explosives.


Woo hoo.. who wants to be rich? It would be a nice supplement for our DVD's that we put on the web for free.
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post May 21 2008, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (nicepants @ May 21 2008, 07:38 PM) *
Are you suggesting that the collapse should have gotten slower and slower until it eventually just stopped?


The math says that "the collapse" should have stopped as soon as as the top section fell ONE story. Try this for an analogy... a pickup truck rear-ends a semi-trailer... is the result a pile of dust and small broken parts? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

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Have you bothered to consider the amount of explosives that would be required to do what you're suggesting?


Here, you have finally asked a good question (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/handsdown.gif) I asked Frank Legge (Journal of 9/11 Studies) that very same question. He told me that without knowing the type of explosives it's very difficult to answer, but that explosives experts have assured him that it's possible. Personally, I think this is one of the great unanswered questions.

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Aside from the initial absurdity, there were many large pieces of debris in the pile of rubble after the collapse which indicate that your theory is incorrect.


No there weren't. The GZ workers reported that there were NO large pieces of anything... no desks, no phones, no filing cabinets... not even pebbles of concrete.. just dust!

[Edit] and don't forget the thousands of human bone fragments that somehow got "deposited" on the roof of the DeutschBank Building.

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post May 21 2008, 11:12 PM
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why do you keep indulging this troll?

if you are married, go make love to your spouse instead.

if you aren't married, go read a book.

but don't be so bored that you continue to play with this phish.

i had similar fruitcakes invade my blog. as i have said previously, i am certain that the usg has a group of professional "trolls".

eventually, i so tired of their nonsense i solved the problem by abandoning my blog.

leave the clown alone. do not respond to him. to paraphrase a koan, a fool shouting when no one cares to listen has no voice.
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post May 21 2008, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (albertchampion @ May 21 2008, 11:12 PM) *
why do you keep indulging this troll?



Because its fun. Its our house... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The question should really be... why do people come here to be trolls and register to a forum in order to engage people they think are nuts?? I can only say one word.. loser (and spending way too much on their flight training) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Not only that. .but some of these losers feel so passionately about us "kooks", they will double up on their anonymity in order to engage people they think are "nuts".. they will register here with a different UserID than they are already known for. Thats the ultimate loser. The extreme losers actually go out of their way to find a proxy server to engage people they think are nuts. Talk about suicidal... Those people must really be depressed to go out of their way through a proxy seeking attention from people they think are nuts. Some of them find 2, 3, 4, 10 different proxies to engage.. wow. What kind of life is that? Blow yourself away now! lol.. just kidding....


By the way.. Foxy is "reheat", but he is a coward. And it appears.. a drunk after the last exchange we had on the air. "Reheat" wouldnt even use his real name on air and used "Reheat" when calling in. What a coward!. This man was a fighter pilot? I dont think so... The man is a joke to everyone around him im sure.. that is why he will double up on his anonymity.


Beachnut is even more of a loser and probably has one leg in the coffin. the govt loyalist site and us are all he has in his life im sure, looking at his post rate. Poor old fu*ker. At least "Reheat" called in.. Beachnut just hid behind his screen. Extreme cowardice.

I will also say... Reheat is spreading bullshit and probably knows it, that is also why he wont put his name on his work.


The people from the govt loyalist site are nothing but cowards. They call us "paraniod", but we are the ones using our real names and address. Oh the irony... Enjoy your chip implants!


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http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=113706


freakin morons...


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(micepants, copy/paste my ad homs to the govt loyalist site. You can be my sock. Be sure to quote in full now... dont want to be thought as more of a loser than you already are... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

(disclaimer: I havent sourced the "implant" thread, so its possible these losers are doing it for a laugh. But if they arent, im not too sure which would make them more of a loser, making up such a story for attention, or actually taking the chip)
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post May 21 2008, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE (DonM @ May 21 2008, 08:03 PM) *
[Edit] and don't forget the thousands of human bone fragments that somehow got "deposited" on the roof of the DeutschBank Building.


I find this fact, very disturbing, inexplicable and inexcusable.

How could any one explain this, by the official story?!

How heartless must one be, to defend the OGT?

These were living breathing human beings...
Blasted to pieces, for what?
A little more something?
A little more security?
A little bit longer?

It's sad.

We got to figure out another way, fast.

Or the change that we'll be seeing,
are the chains we're found to be in.

imo, lunk
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post May 22 2008, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (albertchampion @ May 21 2008, 08:12 PM) *
why do you keep indulging this troll?


I share you're distaste. http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10741321
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post May 22 2008, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (painter @ May 22 2008, 12:14 AM) *



Immaturity i suppose. Its fun to bat around the idiots once in awhile.. Keeps us sharp.. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Lord knows Meigs and Coburn, nor the NTSB/FBI will take us on... so... what the hell.. micepanties will do when we're in the mood and feeling immature... its clear they have no other "hobby" but to engage people they think are "nuts" from behind their screen, so why not have some fun when we're in the mood? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

micepanties is dangerous though. Not to anyone else... but himself. He reminds me of pilots i met while coming through the ranks. They are all dead now from plowing themselves into terrain thinking they knew it all. Needless to say, and as harsh as it may be, micepanties has all the traits. I may have just saved his life just by this post... but i doubt it. Look for a smoking hole in the future with the name Jason on it. I hope he proves me wrong.


ETA: The best was during my brief exchange with James B of SLC via email. His excuse for doing what he does? A Hobby. I owned a 26' Wellcraft, Waterskiing, Harley, taught others to fly, built RC aircraft, chasing women, worked out... the list goes on for a "hobby". Yet James B considers writing a blog daily about some 20 somethings who made a film, who he thinks are nuts.... as a "hobby". James B says he also earned a masters degree. I suspect James B was the type that got alot of wedgies in High School.

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lol

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post May 22 2008, 01:09 AM
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nicepants:
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Are you suggesting that the collapse should have gotten slower and slower until it eventually just stopped?


Bingo! Another lollipop! (this time spelled right)

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Have you bothered to consider the amount of explosives that would be required to do what you're suggesting?


Yes. It would take the amount that was used.

In regards to why we mess with these trolls: It's fun and it also displays their bogus arguments to the readership. By demolishing them here, it can help those who argue 9/11 on other forums learn how to defeat their nonsense. For there are paid agents everywhere, not just on 9/11 boards. Actually it's the point of this thread and nicepants and Roark have been cooperating quite well.
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post May 22 2008, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE (Roark @ May 21 2008, 12:55 PM) *
So is it totally beyond the capability of your withered imagination to see how the forces of the collapse themselves could have caused the debris to be propelled horizontally?

Have you ever bent a piece of wood until it snapped and had pieces fly out?


Appeal to "withered imagination?"--- WTF??? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

Just answer the "propellant" question above PLEASE!!!

BTW, you fellows missed a few questions above...

Appeal to "bent wood:" Beavis says: "Heh, heh, ... heh, ...., heh, heh, ...."

EDIT: Quoted post at:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10741375

Still WTF??

EDIT2: For the record, R.oark "answered" my question with 2 more questions of his own... Does anyone else see a pattern here?

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post May 22 2008, 05:53 AM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 21 2008, 10:09 PM) *
Actually it's the point of this thread and nicepants and Roark have been cooperating quite well.


Well, I guess when you put it like that, it isn't a total waste of time. We all need our little diversions and amusements.
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post May 22 2008, 05:53 AM
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QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 21 2008, 10:09 PM) *
Actually it's the point of this thread and nicepants and Roark have been cooperating quite well.


Well, I guess when you put it like that, it isn't a total waste of time. We all need our little diversions and amusements.
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WOAH, a double post. Never seen that glitch before.
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post May 22 2008, 08:04 AM
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SECURITY: Cleanup on aisle "North Tower," por favor...

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post May 22 2008, 08:44 AM
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In my opinion, you can clearly see that the remaining tower gives enough resistance to the toppling upper part so it will first crash in a conventional manner due to gravity from bottom to top.

The remaing tower starts collaps when at least two third of the upper part has vanished allready.
That's what made me suspicious when i saw OT people calculating the weight of the top section and talking from enormous Sledgehammer impact and momentum.
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post May 22 2008, 01:27 PM
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Our "friend" R.oark appears to be spreading out to "greener pastures:"

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10741508

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10741486

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10741490

Appears to be an early morning "hit and run" while the forum admins are sleeping (please feel free to correct my assumptions here).

P.S. R.oark-- "I'M RICK JAMES, BITCH!"
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post May 22 2008, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (dMole @ May 22 2008, 10:27 AM) *
Our "friend" R.oark appears to be spreading out to "greener pastures:"


I hear you dMole. However, apparently others here think it is fun to play with these types and don't seem to mind too much when their memes start seaping into other threads. So, at the risk of appearing irresponsible, I'm going to pass on this one. He hasn't done anything excessively onerous other than the usual. After all, this is a forum. Calling you a grammar Nazi might warrant an increase in his warn level but given the name calling from some on our side, I'd hardly call it reprehensible. So, I'm going to let others take care of this if they're of a mind to. If it gets completely out of hand, PM me with a link.
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