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Zionist Jews Did 9/11

Faramir
post Apr 2 2011, 06:47 AM
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Here are the culprits layed out, plain and clear. thumbsup.gif
http://jewishcrimenetwork.blogspot.com/p/i...-all-proof.html
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post Apr 2 2011, 07:20 AM
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post Apr 2 2011, 10:41 AM
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Still, a very touchy topic.

You may like to tell us a little about yourself,
in the welcome all, forum.

Just a cautionary reminder:

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post Apr 2 2011, 02:27 PM
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One internet site that generally point in that direction for most false flag terror events is http://www.veteranstoday.com with a bit less than 500k visits per day... maybe this perspective on 911 is getting less controversial.
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http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21189
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post Apr 3 2011, 05:55 AM
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The fact that even "truthers" are afraid to broach this angle proves its veracity...

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QUOTE (André @ Mar 31 2011, 05:27 PM) *
One internet site that generally point in that direction for most false flag terror events is http://www.veteranstoday.com with a bit less than 500k visits per day... maybe this perspective on 911 is getting less controversial.


indeed. this one is particularly scathing:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/03/29/jb-campbell-daja/
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post Apr 3 2011, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE (Faramir @ Apr 3 2011, 01:55 AM) *
The fact that even "truthers" are afraid to broach this angle proves its veracity...

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i think the key here, is to know what Zionism is.

Zionism is simply a "belief" that a people of a particular religious system,
should only be in one, specific, (small) part, of the world.

There are Zionists, apparently, in every faith, and non faith.
Atheist Zionists, Muslim Zionists, Buddhist Zionists(?), i think, as well.
People can believe anything they want.
And even a skeptic, has a belief system.

People, technically, can also today, live anywhere they want,
houses, boats, spaceships, the moon.

Why would anyone think some people, should only live in one specific spot, just on Earth, when there is the whole unbound universe, becoming more and more accessible to all?
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post Apr 3 2011, 07:30 AM
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I haven't even read the posts, just the title ... but,

Bullshit.

They'd love for us to think that though, then they can stamp their "anti-semite" label on us all.

Israel (before it was Israel) was a guardian state to give the elite a means to watch over the oil-rich middle east following the ousting of the Ottoman Turks ... Later, it was given nationhood, while Jews were murdered in Germany ... all to make viable thie WEDGE in the Muslim world, which holds the resources and BANS USURY .... i.e. banks can't charge interest ... that's why the banksters can't get their claws deep into that region, that's why they need Israel to stir up sh#t, that's why we are headed for WWIII ... the only way they know how to implement their NWO is to destroy and then rebuild, as per their blueprint.

The Templars (later Freemasons) and prominent Germanic (earlier Spanish) bankers have been doing their commercial empire thing for close to a thousand years .... and it was the TEMPLARS who were in charge. Do you think it's changed??? Are the Morgans, or the Rockefellers Jewish? No, but they are in league with the Rothschilds and the Warburgs. Why? What's the history? What's the common thread??? THERE'S your answer ... but, Zionist Jews did 9/11??? You are looking at the trees and can't see the forest. (That's just my opinion.)

Here's a tiny clue into the make-up of the inner circle ... Evelyn Rothschild and his new wife bought an apartment in Manhattan in 2001 - obstensibly to get a front row seat to the blood sacrifice. Their decorator was recommended to them by ... the Obamas.

No joke.
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post Apr 3 2011, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE (lunk @ Apr 3 2011, 05:52 AM) *
i think the key here, is to know what Zionism is.

Zionism is simply a "belief" that a people of a particular religious system,
should only be in one, specific, (small) part, of the world.

There are Zionists, apparently, in every faith, and non faith.
Atheist Zionists, Muslim Zionists, Buddhist Zionists(?), i think, as well.
People can believe anything they want.
And even a skeptic, has a belief system.

People, technically, can also today, live anywhere they want,
houses, boats, spaceships, the moon.

Why would anyone think some people, should only live in one specific spot, just on Earth, when there is the whole unbound universe, becoming more and more accessible to all?


No. Zionism was originally a political movement to establish a Jewish state in palestine. Since that state has since been established (Israel), Zionism is now a movement for Jewish world domination, centered in Jerusalem.

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post Apr 3 2011, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (Sanders @ Apr 3 2011, 06:30 AM) *
I haven't even read the posts, just the title ... but,

Bullshit.


It's always intelligent to call something bullshit and then admit you never even read it. wall.gif

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They'd love for us to think that though, then they can stamp their "anti-semite" label on us all.


Wow, what a silly statement. rolleyes.gif What kind of insidious people would require such a smear word to malign their detractors if they are not involved in anything sinister?

"Antisemitic, it's is a trick we always use it" - Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE

On the other hand, people who blame "the Illuminati", "the Globalists", "the Elite", "the New World Order", and other vague intangible poltergeists get all kinds of attention and are even put on mainstream TV to promote their theories, whilst "anti-semites" are thrown in jail all over the world for opposing the Zionist agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7wpV22vTGs


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Israel (before it was Israel) was a guardian state to give the elite a means to watch over the oil-rich middle east following the ousting of the Ottoman Turks ... Later, it was given nationhood, while Jews were murdered in Germany ... all to make viable thie WEDGE in the Muslim world, which holds the resources and BANS USURY .... i.e. banks can't charge interest ... that's why the banksters can't get their claws deep into that region, that's why they need Israel to stir up sh#t, that's why we are headed for WWIII ... the only way they know how to implement their NWO is to destroy and then rebuild, as per their blueprint.


Sounds like some crazy Alex Jones style disinfo. WWI and WWII were engineered by Jewish bankers, namely the Schiff, Warburg and Rothschild banking dynasties as a means to establish Israel. They wanted to break up the big empires of Europe, as well as the Ottoman Empire, so they could free up the Jews living in those empires, and grab Palestine from the Turks. The British signed the Balfour Declaration in 1917 promising the Jews a homeland in Palestine, in return for the jewish money-power bringing America into WW1 on the side of the British. The British then grabbed Palestine from the Turks and handed it over to the Jews following WW2. The largely ficticious Holocaust story was then orchestrated to provide cover for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, as well as to distract people away from the crimes of the murderous Jewish Bolsheviks who committed genocide in Russia and Eastern Europe.

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html



You obviously are quite naive on this subject.

QUOTE (Sanders)
The Templars (later Freemasons) and prominent Germanic (earlier Spanish) bankers have been doing their commercial empire thing for close to a thousand years .... and it was the TEMPLARS who were in charge. Do you think it's changed??? Are the Morgans, or the Rockefellers Jewish? No, but they are in league with the Rothschilds and the Warburgs. Why? What's the history? What's the common thread??? THERE'S your answer ... but, Zionist Jews did 9/11??? You are looking at the trees and can't see the forest. (That's just my opinion.)


laugh.gif Templars? pfft, gimme a break. Freemasonry is simply a front for Jewry, it is based on Judaism and the Jewish Cabala. The purpose of freemasonry is to induct Gentiles into the service of Jewry. They even admit this in their own literature. For example in Duncan's Ritual and Monitor it states that Masonry is subservient to Judaism, noting that a recipient of the Royal Arch degree pledges himself "For the good of Masonry, generally, but the Jewish nation in particular." (p. 249)

The Rockefellars and Morgan were frontmen for the Jewish Rothschild family. Your narrative is full of holes. You point out a couple non-Jewish oligarchs, but ignore the fact that a large majority of the big oligarchs and bankers are indeed Jewish. You are either willfully deceiving yourself or are making excuses for the criminals, for whatever reason.

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post Apr 3 2011, 09:47 AM
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any crime, anywhere, boils down to MMO. Motive, means and opportunity. not complex, real simple.

i don't care for labels much, but the perps are criminals nevertheless. nobody gets a free pass, whatever moniker they choose to use. i am all done w/ being told what to believe and whose sensitivities should be spared...

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and as far as the title goes, well a dr. alan sabrosky would probably agree with the title. he is of the opinion that 9/11 was the work of mossad (well, not alone evidently), and they most certainly are jewish and most probably zionist. he was a professor at the us army war college, not some escapee from a psych ward (not to my knowledge anyway).
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post Apr 3 2011, 02:41 PM
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The very sad truth and dispiriting situation is that Faramir is essentially correct.

The ones that object to Faramir's broad outline should do some historical research. It takes some effort to cut through because a lot of misinformation has been planted to confuse and send the researcher to non-productive directions.

However, it does not take a lot of time to read Disraeli comments on the subject. He was Jewish by birth and a very prominent figure in English history. By the way, if you do a Google search for Disraeli quotations you will be referred to his positive quotes about Palestine and the Jewish question. That alone, should raise a red flag, since he spent 30 years trying to warn about the involvement of Jewish groups in secret societies and their destructive objectives about established governments and the undermining of Christianity.

Or get access to some reasonable translation of the Talmud (parts of it, since there is no such a thing as a complete accurate translation). If some passages do not shock you then nothing will shock you.
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lunk, according to you:

Zionism is simply a "belief" that a people of a particular religious system,
should only be in one, specific, (small) part, of the world.

There are Zionists, apparently, in every faith, and non faith.
Atheist Zionists, Muslim Zionists, Buddhist Zionists(?), i think, as well.
People can believe anything they want.
And even a skeptic, has a belief system.



Where did you get that strange idea of what Zionism is?

Zion is the name of a montain in Jerusalem where the Temple was built.

It has alwas been associated with a movement for the return of the Jewish Diaspora to
Palestine/Israel. Jabotinsky, a russian Jew is credited in many quarters as the originator of
the movement. However, in his case it was not for religious reasons since he was a non-believer.
As presented by Jabotinsky it was totally opposed by the religious leaders.

I believe that Dr. Chaim Weizmann was much more instrumental in the progress of Zionism, at least overtly,
than any other Jewish person.

By your definition you would be calling the Kurds Zionist. Tell them that, and run for cover!
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This is a hot topic and bound to offend!

One could argue that there are reasons which Israel would and did benefit from 911. This is not a proof that they planned it as logical as that may sound. Joe's Army Uniform factory sales have multiplied by 10 times since 911, but Joe would hardly be a suspect for planning 911 even though he benefited from it.

Regardless of the legitimacy of the Jewish state, Israel believes... perhaps with some justification that her neighbors want her gone and the land returned to the former owners... as if there were never any jews in the region. So one might argue that Israel will support and benefit from US activities which neutralize Israel's perceived enemies. Again this doesn't lead to a proof that Israel created the false flag manipulating the US anti Islam response. It certainly would be clever. But if it was discovered that Israel attacked the US in a false flag to blame it on Islamists, it would likely lead to the end of Israel and a wave of antisemitism the likes of which the world has never seen

But perhaps the audacity is like a shield and so no one will seriously consider the possibility.

If the motive was to start a war of conquest over Arab nations with the excuse of stamping out terrorism a partnership between oil, banks, the MIC and Israel seems to make sense. It's kind of hard to disentangle those interests in the ME.

Who plans such madness? Is there some urgency? Can history unfold without these false flags which are used to start wars?

I have no answers but lots of questions and we need a lot more than motive to cast blame.
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QUOTE (SanderO @ Apr 3 2011, 04:07 PM) *
This is a hot topic and bound to offend!

One could argue that there are reasons which Israel would and did benefit from 911. This is not a proof that they planned it as logical as that may sound.



Read the article linked in the OP and you will see the Zionists planned, carried out, covered up and benefitted from 9/11.

QUOTE (SanderO @ Apr 3 2011, 04:07 PM) *
But if it was discovered that Israel attacked the US in a false flag to blame it on Islamists, it would likely lead to the end of Israel and a wave of antisemitism the likes of which the world has never seen


Are you simply ignorant to the fact that Jews completely control the US government? Israel controls the USA through dual-citizen Israelis in the US government, through AIPAC, ADL, ZOA, JINSA and the Jewish lobby groups. Through Jewish ownership of the media and Hollywood, and the big banks, including the Federal Reserve. How do you think Israel got away with the Lavon Affair and the USS Liberty attack? They were caught twice attacking America to frame Islamists, and twice it was covered up. Jews run USA, top to bottom.

http://www.vimeo.com/19331290
http://www.wake-up-america.net/NEO-CON%20J...20IN%20IRAQ.htm
http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html
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QUOTE (SanderO @ Apr 1 2011, 08:07 PM) *
I have no answers but lots of questions and we need a lot more than motive to cast blame.


which goes back to MMO. you have supplied motive, all that's left is means and opportunity.
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QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Apr 3 2011, 08:23 PM) *
which goes back to MMO. you have supplied motive, all that's left is means and opportunity.


No motive means and opportunity is not evidence.

You could say the MIC had motive means and opportunity as much as the Mossad.
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as was the case in the jfk, rfk assassinations, there was a collision of interests.

the objective was to create a scenario of attack without any substantive attack[much like pearl harbor, by the way].

to do this a real choreography was required.

one of the questions that remains unanswered, who was it that moved the op forward a month?

who ordered joe albaugh to preposition fema in manhattan[operation tripod - 1,2,7].

who ordered that there be no crime scene[s] investigations?

who was it that ordered christine todd whitman to tell the public that there were no atmospheric contaminants in lower manhattan?

i think i know that zionist jews in houston seized the soul of george walker bush via the rabbi friedman foundation after his cocaine bust.

but in the final analysis, it was the usg that ran this scam.

zionist jews may have managed it, but so did episcopalians, presbyterians, methodists. it was a very collegial false flag operation. which suckered the sheep inhabiting the usa. who are still suckered.

allah help us all.
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QUOTE (SanderO @ Apr 1 2011, 11:49 PM) *
No motive means and opportunity is not evidence.

You could say the MIC had motive means and opportunity as much as the Mossad.


you supplied the motive. are you backing down?


QUOTE (albertchampion @ Apr 2 2011, 12:04 AM) *
as was the case in the jfk, rfk assassinations, there was a collision of interests.

the objective was to create a scenario of attack without any substantive attack[much like pearl harbor, by the way].

to do this a real choreography was required.

one of the questions that remains unanswered, who was it that moved the op forward a month?

who ordered joe albaugh to preposition fema in manhattan[operation tripod - 1,2,7].

who ordered that there be no crime scene[s] investigations?

who was it that ordered christine todd whitman to tell the public that there were no atmospheric contaminants in lower manhattan?

i think i know that zionist jews in houston seized the soul of george walker bush via the rabbi friedman foundation after his cocaine bust.

but in the final analysis, it was the usg that ran this scam.

zionist jews may have managed it, but so did episcopalians, presbyterians, methodists. it was a very collegial false flag operation. which suckered the sheep inhabiting the usa. who are still suckered.

allah help us all.


ah, and there is the rub, 'zionist jews may have managed it...'

QED.
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