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The Gate 26/32 question, Where did AA 11 departure?

woody
post Aug 29 2006, 04:05 PM
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Some of you may know that there are conflicting accounts regarding the departure gate of AA 11. Some sources say it was Gate 26, some say Gate 32.

I gathered the evidence here (my first 9/11 piece):

http://de.geocities.com/woody_box2000/TwinFlight.html

The 9/11 Commission Report was published half a year later and presented - in my eyes - confirmation for the oddities at Logan Airport. F.I. in the footnotes we learn that some of the passengers of Flight 11 boarded the plane after the push-back! Can any aviation expert tell me how this is possible? wink.gif

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9. See TSA report, "Selectee Status of September 11th Hijackers," undated. For boarding and seating information, see AAL record, SABRE information on Flight 11, Sept. 11, 2001.These boarding times from the American system are approximate only; for Flight 11, they indicated that some passengers "boarded" after the aircraft had pushed back from the gate. See AAL response to the Commission's February 3, 2004, requests, Mar. 15, 2004.

Chapter I, note 9



But there's more, even better:

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6. For Flight 11, two checkpoints provided access to the gate. The second was opened at 7:15 A.M. The FAA conducted many screener evaluations between September 11, 1999, and September 11, 2001.At the primary checkpoints, in aggregate, screeners met or exceeded the average for overall, physical search, and X-ray detection, while falling below the norm for metal detection. No FAA Special Assessments (by "red teams") were done at Logan security checkpoints during the two years prior to September 11, 2001. See FAA briefing materials, "Assessment and Testing Data for BOS, EWR, and IAD," Oct. 24, 2001.

Chapter I, Note 6


I was wondering why two checkpoints provide access to one gate. I always thought one checkpoint provides access to multiple gates.

Loose Change member JackD has provided me with a nice map of the AA Terminal at Logan:

http://i.elias-savion.com/11/59/en-us/docu...boston_b_aa.pdf

Obviously, there is only one security checkpoint for Gate 32 (the gate favoured by the 9/11 Commission). But - and this is interesting - Gate 26 has to be entered through a different checkpoint.

Is that what the 9/11 Commission means? One checkpoint for each gate? But why don't they mention gate 26, and which of the planes was Flight 11, anyway?

Do multiple checkpoints for one gate make sense at all?

Anyone here familiar with Logan Airport?
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- woody   The Gate 26/32 question   Aug 29 2006, 04:05 PM
- - StevenDC   QUOTE (woody @ Aug 29 2006, 03:05 PM)Some of ...   Jan 16 2007, 06:59 PM
- - v2rot8   The only thing I can think of is that Flt. 11 was ...   Jan 16 2007, 07:13 PM
- - JackD   Woody, and V2Rotator -- Logan Airport's term...   Jan 18 2007, 02:11 PM
- - JackD   more information about Terminal B in Logan North ...   Jan 18 2007, 02:21 PM
- - amazed!   Wow, fascinating stuff! The discrepancies bet...   Jan 20 2007, 11:56 AM
- - JackD   hard to conclude much about where passengers went....   Jan 23 2007, 06:32 PM
- - amazed!   Jack That's my point. If the pax are missing...   Jan 29 2007, 10:36 PM
- - JackD   many passengers on AA11 worked for for industries ...   Jun 5 2007, 09:45 PM
- - Beached   QUOTE (JackD @ Jun 6 2007, 01:45 AM)many pass...   Jun 6 2007, 08:14 AM
- - amazed!   As time goes on, I now think that either none of t...   Jun 8 2007, 09:49 AM
- - radiofreebc   This is really interesting. Is there any proof of...   Sep 5 2007, 05:50 AM
- - Zapzarap   @Beached very plausible analysis again! Makes ...   Sep 5 2007, 08:48 AM
- - woody   A new entry on my blog since months: http://911wo...   Sep 17 2010, 03:43 PM
- - amazed!   Thanks for that Woody! As I recall there ...   Sep 18 2010, 04:56 PM
- - DANDPT   RE: chapter 6 of the Fetzer book, The 9/11 Conspir...   Feb 10 2011, 09:05 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 10 2011, 03:05 PM) RE...   Feb 11 2011, 12:02 PM
|- - DANDPT   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 11 2011, 12:02 PM) 001...   Feb 13 2011, 06:31 PM
|- - DANDPT   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 11 2011, 12:02 PM) 001...   Feb 13 2011, 06:57 PM
||- - elreb   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 13 2011, 12:57 PM) I...   Feb 13 2011, 08:34 PM
|||- - DANDPT   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 13 2011, 07:34 PM) Try...   Feb 13 2011, 09:00 PM
|||- - woody   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 14 2011, 01:00 AM) Di...   Feb 15 2011, 10:58 AM
|||- - DANDPT   QUOTE (woody @ Feb 15 2011, 10:58 AM) I...   Feb 15 2011, 12:47 PM
||||- - elreb   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 15 2011, 06:47 AM) Re...   Feb 15 2011, 02:03 PM
||||- - woody   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 15 2011, 05:47 PM) I ...   Feb 20 2011, 11:52 AM
||||- - Sergio   QUOTE (woody @ Feb 20 2011, 01:52 PM) Whe...   Feb 20 2011, 02:30 PM
|||||- - woody   QUOTE (Sergio @ Feb 20 2011, 07:30 PM) Hi...   Feb 22 2011, 02:46 PM
|||||- - Sergio   Hi Woody, first of all thank you very much you for...   Feb 23 2011, 10:40 AM
|||||- - woody   QUOTE (Sergio @ Feb 23 2011, 03:40 PM) Hi...   Feb 25 2011, 10:04 AM
|||||- - Sergio   QUOTE (woody @ Feb 25 2011, 11:04 AM) Reg...   Feb 25 2011, 03:24 PM
||||- - DANDPT   QUOTE (woody @ Feb 20 2011, 10:52 AM) Whe...   Feb 21 2011, 01:19 PM
||||- - DANDPT   I got the idea that AA11 was not scheduled on Tues...   Feb 21 2011, 03:00 PM
||||- - SwingDangler   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 19 2011, 06:00 PM) I ...   Feb 28 2011, 02:13 PM
|||- - poppyburner   QUOTE (woody @ Feb 15 2011, 02:58 PM) The...   Jan 17 2014, 02:13 AM
||- - paranoia   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 13 2011, 05:57 PM) No...   Feb 13 2011, 08:41 PM
||- - Obwon   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Feb 13 2011, 05:57 PM) Th...   Mar 20 2011, 06:52 PM
|- - tumetuestumefaisdubien   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 11 2011, 04:02 AM) 001...   Feb 28 2011, 02:21 AM
|- - Sergio   QUOTE (tumetuestumefaisdubien @ Feb 28 2011, ...   Feb 28 2011, 09:56 AM
- - elreb   From my perspective this was a military exercise d...   Feb 13 2011, 10:41 PM
|- - DANDPT   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 13 2011, 10:41 PM) Fro...   Feb 14 2011, 12:37 PM
- - elreb   I wouldn’t think it would be difficult to bury or ...   Feb 14 2011, 01:15 PM
|- - DANDPT   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 14 2011, 01:15 PM) I w...   Feb 14 2011, 07:37 PM
- - amazed!   Probably about 4 or 5 years ago, maybe here at PFT...   Feb 14 2011, 06:16 PM
- - elreb   Where is the DNA...where are the bodies...   Feb 14 2011, 09:17 PM
|- - DANDPT   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 14 2011, 09:17 PM) Whe...   Feb 14 2011, 09:54 PM
- - elreb   You can roll the bones anyway you want…witness pro...   Feb 14 2011, 11:03 PM
- - amazed!   Thanks Woody!   Feb 16 2011, 11:12 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (amazed! @ Feb 16 2011, 05:12 P...   Feb 16 2011, 11:30 PM
- - amazed!   Sorry if I missed it Woody, but is Sorensen still ...   Feb 20 2011, 10:27 PM
|- - elreb   QUOTE (amazed! @ Feb 20 2011, 04:27 P...   Feb 20 2011, 11:06 PM
||- - Sergio   QUOTE (elreb @ Feb 21 2011, 12:06 AM) My ...   Feb 21 2011, 01:54 PM
|- - woody   QUOTE (amazed! @ Feb 21 2011, 03:27 A...   Feb 22 2011, 02:51 PM
- - elreb   Great self-research…wonder if you could look up AA...   Feb 21 2011, 06:07 PM
- - elreb   Woody Box, I am sure you are one of the best rese...   Feb 22 2011, 11:30 PM
- - amazed!   The entire frigging story is a lie, from start to ...   Feb 24 2011, 10:20 PM
- - SwingDangler   For those that missed the History Common's ent...   Feb 28 2011, 03:39 PM
|- - Sergio   QUOTE (SwingDangler @ Feb 28 2011, 04:39 ...   Feb 28 2011, 04:01 PM
|- - DeanHartwell   Here are some facts I uncovered about Flight 11 in...   Mar 13 2011, 08:54 PM
||- - JackD   QUOTE (DeanHartwell @ Mar 11 2011, 11:54 ...   Mar 17 2011, 12:10 AM
||- - DeanHartwell   Thank you, Jack. The distance between Gates 26 an...   Mar 17 2011, 04:22 PM
||- - DANDPT   QUOTE (DeanHartwell @ Mar 17 2011, 04:22 ...   Mar 17 2011, 07:59 PM
|- - woody   QUOTE (Sergio @ Feb 28 2011, 08:01 PM) Gr...   Apr 25 2011, 02:43 AM
|- - Sergio   QUOTE (woody @ Apr 25 2011, 03:43 AM) New...   Apr 27 2011, 07:51 PM
- - amazed!   I agree Obwon--they've been generating identit...   Mar 21 2011, 11:01 AM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (amazed! @ Mar 21 2011, 10:01 A...   Mar 23 2011, 05:14 AM
- - DANDPT   QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 23 2011, 05:14 AM) Of ...   Mar 23 2011, 12:05 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Mar 23 2011, 11:05 AM) An...   Mar 24 2011, 07:17 AM
|- - DANDPT   QUOTE (Obwon @ Mar 24 2011, 07:17 AM) Tha...   Mar 24 2011, 12:10 PM
|- - Sergio   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Mar 24 2011, 01:10 PM) Di...   Mar 24 2011, 02:50 PM
||- - DANDPT   QUOTE (Sergio @ Mar 24 2011, 02:50 PM) Ma...   Mar 24 2011, 07:41 PM
||- - Sergio   Wait Dan, wait. QUOTE (DANDPT @ Mar 24 2011...   Mar 25 2011, 12:15 PM
||- - Obwon   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Mar 24 2011, 06:41 PM) Se...   Mar 26 2011, 12:11 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (DANDPT @ Mar 24 2011, 11:10 AM) OB...   Mar 26 2011, 12:00 PM
- - amazed!   Thanks for the latest stuff Woody!   Apr 25 2011, 05:12 PM
- - 9/11 Justice Now   This should prove to be very interesting "oh ...   Jun 2 2011, 12:08 PM
- - amazed!   The link does not work for me.   Jun 2 2011, 09:39 PM
|- - 9/11 Justice Now   QUOTE (amazed! @ Jun 3 2011, 11:39 AM...   Jun 2 2011, 10:54 PM
- - amazed!   Read the article quickly. Assuming that it's ...   Jun 4 2011, 09:46 AM
- - paranoia   i find this thread to be an informative/insightful...   Jan 17 2014, 04:30 AM
- - poppyburner   '...flight 11 [Gate 32] was locked up and read...   Jan 17 2014, 11:56 PM


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