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O M G-they Tried Again To 'Prove By Simulation', desperate new simulation of WTC collapse

Carl Bank
post Jun 18 2007, 02:51 PM
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'Der Spiegel Online'
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/...,488868,00.html

"Ein Team der Purdue University im US-Bundesstaat Indiana hat wissenschaftliche Computersimulationen eingesetzt, um die physikalischen Details der Anschläge auf das World Trade Center präzise zu simulieren..."

A team from the Purdue University in the US-state of Indiana
employed scientific computer simulations to precisely simulate the physical details of the attacs
on the World Trade Center


In this absolute disgusting (add as amany exclamation marks as you like)
article of Gemany's war mongerer no.1 "Der Spiegel", they showed up with a brand new simulation about AA11 and the WTC1:

Are you ready for this? blech.gif



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post Jun 18 2007, 03:15 PM
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Excellent smattering of comments on this here

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?C...umber=295558594

Basically it's shenaigins.

The core cutting is very suspect. The fuel part as well. No engines. No details and no source.

And I missed the part still where "global collapse ensued". biggrin.gif

But, I do like the part where he says this can be used for any other simulation. *cough* *cough* Pentagon...
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post Jun 18 2007, 03:34 PM
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It does not show much other than the possible column and floor damage. I would like to see the Purdue researchers take this farther and try to collapse the tower. Granted in doing so, it would take into account the exact tower design and structure(make sure the columns cross section is correct and all the cross bracing is taken into account and so forth) and all the results and data would have to go under complete published peer review and not just a from a "select few" as in the NIST report.
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post Jun 18 2007, 04:31 PM
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Here's the Purdue page on this:

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/index.html
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post Jun 18 2007, 10:20 PM
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Well at least they included the vertical stab and engines in this animation, unlike the disappearing act they used on their pentagon simulation.


I guess the 757 doesnt need engines to fly according to Purdue University...



It also seems the pentagon is only one floor... or the Vertical Stab survived the impact with the outer wall leaving no imprint... again, according to Purdue...
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post Jun 19 2007, 07:29 AM
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Well, this may be a blessing in disguise - Purdue engineers produce videos that are used to justify the official story, however, we can use them to show how absurd the official story is! biggrin.gif

The top people making these videos are listed here:
http://www.asce.org/responds/pent_team.cfm

...and take a look at the Purdue engineering department:
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/people.shtml

Here we see one of America's biggest problems - just like the NIST, many of our scientists and engineers may be more loyal to other nations!

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post Jun 19 2007, 10:38 AM
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I want to see them use the simulation to show how the building falls through itself at free-fall speeds. That will be a good trick. They could also show how peeing on your leg is a good simulation of a warm summer shower.
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They could also show how peeing on your leg is a good simulation of a warm summer shower.


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post Jun 19 2007, 12:04 PM
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There is so much wrong with that simulation it's a shame.

How the Fuel moves backwards towards the end. (watch the near wing)

No Engines. No lower floor, or upper floor. Also no details on the parameters used.

It's rediculous to watch really.
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post Jun 19 2007, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (maturin42 @ Jun 19 2007, 02:38 PM)
I want to see them use the simulation to show how the building falls through itself at free-fall speeds. That will be a good trick. They could also show how peeing on your leg is a good simulation of a warm summer shower.

I was waiting to see that too. Dissapointing.
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post Jun 20 2007, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (UnderTow @ Jun 19 2007, 04:04 PM)
There is so much wrong with that simulation it's a shame.

How can you say that when they clearly state they used "state of the art simulation code" and a "state of the art animation system"?



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post Jun 21 2007, 03:42 PM
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This is interesting, NIST reports shows 6 of the core columns were severed. This animations shows much more severed core columns. As for the exit hole on the south side NIST report shows (from my understanding at least) only 1 perimeter column being severed. Perdue's animation shows a much greater number than this. Also why didn't Perdue factor in any interior framing and furnishing?

The Perdue animation was intentionally made to look like the WTC suffered more damage than suspected.


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post Jul 6 2007, 04:34 AM
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Research team receive threats after releasing 9/11 simulation

Mikel Livingston/The Exponent/June 27,2007

The research team behind a scientifically rendered 3-D animation of the Sept. 11 attack on the World Trade Center is beginning to experience the effects of its 2 1/2 year project – not all of which is positive.

The animation, which depicts the crash of American Airlines Flight 11 into the North Tower, was placed on Purdue's Department of Computer Science Web site in early April and has since garnered nationwide media attention from CNN.com and NBC news.

"It is not easy to see the tragedy in such vivid detail," said Christoph Hoffmann, a computer science professor and a lead researcher for the project. "But (the animation) has generated a lot of debate, which is positive."
But, as the team has since found, there is a darker side to success.

The animation drew the attention of conspiracy theorists across the Internet who have taken it upon themselves to target not only the animation but the team behind it. By seeking to prove links between the researchers and the United States government, the theorists hope to find a slant of bias in what was promoted as independent research.

Mete Sozen, professor of structural engineering, said this was not the reaction he was expecting.

"Most of the feedback was negative and threatening," Sozen said.

Sozen said this may be due to a misconception on the part of the viewer.

"They think the animation explains the collapse," Sozen said. "Actually it explains how the structure withstood the impact. The fire brought the building down. But that happened after our coverage."

Despite some hostile feedback, the animation's popularity continues to grow.

The video proved so popular that the team had to upload the video onto YouTube to prevent it from hindering the speed of the department's Web site. On YouTube, the video received more than 2,000 views in only the first hour of its June 1 posting.

"We put the video on YouTube because the great number of downloads that slowed down the computer science Internet servers," Hoffmann said. "The YouTube servers have the adequate capacity."

With more than one million views, the video shows that people are still hungry for answers and, for that reason, the team's research will continue.

"The next step is to understand what happens when dense fluids impact solids," Sozen said. "It will help us to understand the response of structures to such elements."

Until then, Hoffmann is unfazed by the media attention.

"I am just happy to help people understand our work," Hoffmann said.

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/270607...hreats_911.html

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post Aug 23 2008, 07:46 PM
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PowerPoint presentation on WTC:

"High-Fidelity Simulation of Large-Scale Structures
Ananth Grama, Christoph Hoffmann, Ahmed Sameh
Computer Science Dept.
Purdue University"

http://www.caam.rice.edu/~modelreduction/P...ann-5-28-05.pdf

Purdue Simulations Pages

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/pentagon.htm

[EDIT: Now page is at:
http://wiki.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/doku.php?...ale_simulations ]

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/index.html

Pentagon Phase I
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase1

Pentagon Phase II
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/pentagon.shtml [Now links back to index page]

WTC1N Phase III
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulat...ase3/index.html

WTC1 Phase IV
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulat...ase4/index.html
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Where did all those wheels end up?? [Presumed UA175 debris exiting WTC2 South]



http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/p...es/img276-0.jpg

Hmmm... Purdue appears to have moved image \"img276-0.jpg\" (hot-linked above) from their server...

Let\'s try:
http://wiki.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/lib/exe/f...ns:img276-0.jpg

And now dynamic pages won't link... (click the above link for the WTC2 South simulation photo).
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post Aug 24 2008, 02:03 AM
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i try to work with engineers[sic] with degrees from purdue.

it is a vastly overrated engineering school.
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