Top Us Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001 Options

[André]

Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag (confirmed!)

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik
says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack

“Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s”

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.

Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.

“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.

“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.

Pieczenik said that the decision to launch the hoax now was made because Obama had reached a low with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was blowing up in his face.

“He had to prove that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.

“This is orchestrated, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”

Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”

Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

Bin Laden, “Was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism,” stated Pieczenik.

During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

“I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the stupid 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.

http://www.veteranstoday.com

[amazed!]

I'm surprised Steve R. P is still alive. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

[elreb]

The beauty of the US government is its ability to control the media and call anyone who is telling the truth…a quack, nut case, screwball and conspiracy theorist.

On the other hand, the US government can invent fantasy from thin air [like money] and magically it is the gospel…

The real problem is the “Lemmings” who eat leaves, grubs and hibernate from “Reality”.

But like all rodents they have a high reproductive rate and can breed rapidly when food is plentiful.

In urges to find new habitats or resources…will commit mass suicide to save Lemming lives.

[albertchampion]

you can listen to him here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj0pM5FoYbs...der&list=UL

[elreb]

you can listen to him here

That is perfect…just like James E. Files who admitted to killing Kennedy.

People, who are apparently telling the truth, seem to have all the proper answers…unlike the White House.

Then folks have the balls to say, “Why doesn’t someone come forward”!

[onesliceshort]

Is this the first time this guy has mentioned this?

[ScaffoldRider]

This is unbelievable, why isn't this all over the news. This isn't your average Joe Blow,
read his bio. Isn't there some legal means to have the man brought before a grand
jury and put under oath. He is talking about treason and murder. this country is
totally out of control and they have no fear at all. I would love to show this to a
real constitutional lawyer and find out if there is anyway this man can give his
testimony. Am I crazy, please someone tell me I'm not!!!

[Quest]

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Steve Pieczenik, MD, PhD[1] (1943- ) was born in Havana, Cuba on December 7, 1943. He lived first in Toulouse, France for six years. His family then migrated to the United States where they settled in New York City. [2

[amazed!]

This is not all over the news because the effort put into the coverup is far greater than the effort to accomplish the actual crime.

It's not all over the news because, as we all know, the mainstream media is the essential part of the government propaganda machine.

[onesliceshort]

This is not all over the news because the effort put into the coverup is far greater than the effort to accomplish the actual crime.

It's not all over the news because, as we all know, the mainstream media is the essential part of the government propaganda machine.

MSM has a lot to answer for.

This info has been put forward since 2002.

I don't know what to make of this guy. Tom Clancy is his "nom de plume"? And he's been rubbing shoulders with people like Kissinger?

And he's still alive.

http://www.stevepieczenik.com/home.html

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[Sinewy]

There still needs to be precaution when listening to Piecezenik. Seriously, some of these over night fanboys need to stop it with their premature ejaculations.

It feels good it seems for these people that someone from the "inside" espouses the Bin Laden Death hoax theory. It seems he has become an avenue of comfort to listen to at this time regarding OBL and his supposed death because MSM and their followers are monopolizing their views upon this psy op event. Hence, his credibility may tip the balance to the "fanboys" view.

His view of 9/11 inside job may appear as a LIHOP theory it seems. I have listened to all of his recordings these past couple of days. He remains consistent with the "stand down" theory of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice. This may be the first red herring.

Moreover, he praises George HW Bush. It was Nayirah and Bush Sr. and his goons who sold the American and world public the pulling of the babies from the incubator story by Iraqis in order to start Desert Storm in 1991 against Iraq. This was a sheer, fabricated lie concocted but Piecezenik still praises George HW Bush. Its mind boggling. We all know of Bush---Bush and the Bin Ladens and bin Sauds, Bush's supposed involvement in the JFK murder, drug smuggling, Carlyle mob, etc...to name a few..


Elsewhere, he praises Gates and other generals, but he seems to cherry pick the PNAC boys as being the main culprits. Also no Zionist or Mossad involvement has been spewed from his mouth regarding the events of 9/11, except he stated that Bin Laden may have been jewish (due to his mother perhaps) and on the payroll of his handlers in Tel Aviv.


Something is really fishy with this guy....

This post has been edited by Sinewy: May 5 2011, 08:17 PM

[Quest]

There still needs to be precaution when listening to Piecezenik. Seriously, some of these over night fanboys need to stop it with their premature ejaculations.

It feels good it seems for these people that someone from the "inside" espouses the Bin Laden Death hoax theory. It seems he has become an avenue of comfort to listen to at this time regarding OBL and his supposed death because MSM and their followers are monopolizing their views upon this psy op event. Hence, his credibility may tip the balance to the "fanboys" view.

His view of 9/11 inside job may appear as a LIHOP theory it seems. I have listened to all of his recordings these past couple of days. He remains consistent with the "stand down" theory of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice. This may be the first red herring.

Moreover, he praises George HW Bush. It was Nayirah and Bush Sr. and his goons who sold the American and world public the pulling of the babies from the incubator story by Iraqis in order to start Desert Storm in 1991 against Iraq. This was a sheer, fabricated lie concocted but Piecezenik still praises George HW Bush. Its mind boggling. We all know of Bush---Bush and the Bin Ladens and bin Sauds, Bush's supposed involvement in the JFK murder, drug smuggling, Carlyle mob, etc...to name a few..


Elsewhere, he praises Gates and other generals, but he seems to cherry pick the PNAC boys as being the main culprits. Also no Zionist or Mossad involvement has been spewed from his mouth regarding the events of 9/11, except he stated that Bin Laden may have been jewish (due to his mother perhaps) and on the payroll of his handlers in Tel Aviv.


Something is really fishy with this guy....

Great points, Sinewy. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) But what does that say about AJ and Watson? Are they being sucked in or are they doing the bidding of the NWO?

[onesliceshort]

Great points, Sinewy. But what does that say about AJ and Watson? Are they being sucked in or are they doing the bidding of the NWO?

Well, whether duped or not Jones is personally responsible for promoting the "honeytrap" psyop label for the Pentagon issue. He gave this guy, Farrell, spokesperson for Judicial Watch, a voice on his show.

I highly recommend reading about who finances this group.

Christopher J. Farrell joined Judicial Watch in 1999 as the organization’s Director of Investigations & Research, and has been a member of the Board of Directors since September 2003.

Chris is a native of Long Island, New York. He was a Distinguished Military Graduate from Fordham University with a B.A. in History, whereupon he accepted a Regular Army Commission and served as a Military Intelligence Officer – specializing in Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence. Chris is a graduate of the Military Intelligence Officers Basic and Advanced Courses, the U.S. Army Advanced Counterintelligence Training Course, the Combined Arms Services Staff School of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College, the Defense Intelligence Agency’s Military Operations Training Course, and the Haus Rissen Institut für Politik und Wirtschaft in Hamburg, Germany.

He has pursued additional graduate studies in National Security Studies, specializing in unconventional warfare and terrorism. Following command and staff assignments that included three tours of duty in the Federal Republic of Germany, and one tour at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe, Chris returned to civilian life as a contractor to the defense and intelligence communities. He also provided management and training consulting services to non-profit organizations, and was active in the establishment of a small, private, co-ed Christian high school where he both taught and served as director.

Chris has appeared on numerous national TV and radio shows, and has authored dozens of articles. He recently contributed a chapter on terrorism to Dr. Irwin Redlener’s book “Americans at Risk” (Alfred A. Knopf: New York, 2006). Chris maintains a busy lecture schedule on both government corruption issues and intelligence matters.

He is a Senior Staff Associate of Columbia University’s National Center for Disaster Preparedness at the Mailman School of Public Health. He is a member of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers; the American Society of Access Professionals; the International Counter-Terrorism Officers Association; the Society of Competitive Intelligence Professionals; and is a constituent member of the State Department’s Overseas Security Advisory Council.

On December 15, 2006, the United Nations Department of Public Information accredited Judicial Watch with association as a non-governmental organization. Chris serves as the Judicial Watch main representative to United Nations Headquarters in New York. Chris and his family reside in Virginia.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/dirbios

And we all know the mess that was created by that move.

Not trying to derail the thread or have a pop at AJ, just trying to put things in perspective regarding the source, no matter how much of a "relevation".

[ScaffoldRider]

What do you think he meant by, "They ran the attacks."

False flag terrorism" occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces pretend to be a targeted enemy while attacking their own forces or people.

LIHOP (“Let It Happen On Purpose”) is the view that the events of 9/11 were primarily Al Qaeda’s doing, but that high officials in the U.S. government were aware of the plot and deliberately let it happen for political convenience, whereas MIHOP (“Made It Happen On Purpose”) is the view that that the 9/11 attacks were primarily the work of a cabal within the U.S. government, and that any foreign terrorists involved were at most patsies.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

This post has been edited by ScaffoldRider: May 6 2011, 01:46 PM

[Munkle]

What do you think he meant by, "They ran the attacks."

False flag terrorism" occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces pretend to be a targeted enemy while attacking their own forces or people.

LIHOP (“Let It Happen On Purpose”) is the view that the events of 9/11 were primarily Al Qaeda’s doing, but that high officials in the U.S. government were aware of the plot and deliberately let it happen for political convenience, whereas MIHOP (“Made It Happen On Purpose”) is the view that that the 9/11 attacks were primarily the work of a cabal within the U.S. government, and that any foreign terrorists involved were at most patsies.

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

I appreciate the skepticism but "false flag" implies more to me than a LIHOP stand-down, but we don't know. Which is why non-mainstream journalists should obtain clarification. It is obvious why the media has no interest in covering this, it is explosive from any angle. We must use Internet and social networking to give the story legs until they are forced to cover it. At some point they will have to respond, and exposure is this guys' only avenue of safety.

[Sergio]

I will believe Pieczenic the day when he will testify all this in front of a grand jury and will reveal the name of the general.
Until then, it's just one more shocking revelation from Alex Jones program without solid evidence.

For the records, Pieczenic has a considerable reputation for muddling waters.
Watch out, dudes!

[kawika]

This is unbelievable, why isn't this all over the news. This isn't your average Joe Blow,
read his bio. Isn't there some legal means to have the man brought before a grand
jury and put under oath. He is talking about treason and murder. this country is
totally out of control and they have no fear at all. I would love to show this to a
real constitutional lawyer and find out if there is anyway this man can give his
testimony. Am I crazy, please someone tell me I'm not!!!

You're not crazy, you're awake. So am I.

I am taking a poll to gather support for Dr. Steve to come forward and present his evidence to a prosecutor. Please vote:


http://911blogger-bans-truth.com/news/2011-05-06/time...cial-grand-jury


Please send him a heartfelt message here:


http://www.stevepieczenik.com/contact.htm


Thank you very much.

[Munkle]

AUDIO CLIP: Top Insider Prepared to Testify 911 Was False Flag Attack- Steve Pieczenik

http://blip.tv/file/5118363

Interviewed by Alex Jones on May 3, 2011 this section at 8 minutes 20 seconds here:
http://www.youtu.be/74dxhpsFrQc

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack (inside job.) Also says Bin Laden has been "on ice" literally since 2001. Pieczenik served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. Former US Navy Captain. Served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. Also is on Council on Foreign Relations, as well as a medical doctor and a best-selling author who works with Tom Clancy.

TRANSCRIPT: "The event of 911 was carried out for one purpose...to mobilize the American public to go to a war that they didn't need that they knew nothing about where we had pre-positioned soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq 6 to 9 months beforehand, ...it was based on Paul Wolfowitz's, Dick Cheney's, Bush junior, Steve Hadley, Elliot Abrams, in the White House, Khalazid, Dennis Ross who is still an envoy...Condoleeza Rice, all the people who were in the military particularly the Air Force generals who were involved, they can deny it any way they want I hae a whole list of names, they all know who they are, and the intel and CIA operatives who worked under SOLECs, Special Operations for Low Intensity Conflict were all involved...it was called a stand-down and false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under the false pretense that we had been attacked by Al Qaeda and bin Laden which is an absolute unmitigated lie. I was even told by a general on the staff of Wolfowitz, I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who that name was so we can break this open...The issue of Osama bin Laden who had died...really brought out the issue of the great war and the great lie that was created for us to make sure we had some kind of commitment to a war that was not necessary in which so much blood and guts were shed for unnecessary reasons."

CREDENTIALS SEARCH:

UK Guardian on recent book on killing of Aldo Moro:

"An American envoy has claimed that he played a critical role in the fate of Aldo Moro, the former Italian prime minister who was murdered by terrorists in 1978. who as, an international crisis manager and hostage negotiator in the State Department, said that Moro had been "sacrificed" for the "stability" of Italy."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ro-killing.html

He is also quoted in New York Times here:
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/03/08/us/seat-...er-and-woe.html

Member listing at Council on Foreign Relations:
http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=P

Citations at National Military Intelligence Association:
http://www.nmia.org/?AIJ0410

ABC Television News Archive, 1986 segment on terrorism featuring Pieczenik as expert source:

http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=98903 May 3, 2011

BREAKING: "Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack" “Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80?s” Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job. Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT...."

MORE http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/04/to...1-a-false-flag/

FULL INTERVIEW HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtNiTm99e8