The Dragon Blood-line Options

[elreb]

To give folks a better understanding of ancient Egyptian royal succession…we need to look at the modern “House of Winsor”.

It should be kept in mind that Elizabeth, the Queen Mother was alive until 2002

This means that all eight of the following were alive at the same time…indicating you could potentially have 8 sovereigns in a span of less than 100 years.

Sovereign = Queen Elizabeth II

1 Charles, Prince of Wales

2 William, Duke of Cambridge

3 Harry, Prince of Wales

4 Andrew, Duke of York [brother of Charles]

5 Beatrice, of York [daughter of Andrew]

6 Eugenie, of York [daughter of Andrew]

7 Edward, of Wessex [brother of Charles]

[elreb]

Most European families live in a compact family of father, mother and their children.

Most folks are mistaken in believing that this package creates social unity.

In the “Dragon world” the family represents “Blood” connections.

Matriarchy transmits race.

Patriarchy transmits rank.

This is why women can be kings…

[elreb]

Bright stars were important to the ancient Polynesians for navigation between the many islands and atolls of the Pacific Ocean as well as the Venetian, Phoenicians and the Veneti.

Low on the horizon, they acted as stellar compasses to assist mariners in charting courses to particular destinations.

Saturn, [Cronus/Kronos] although never shining as bright as the other planets, at its brightest outshines all Stars except Sirius.

In mythology Cronus is said to be the youngest son of Uranus [Father Sky]

Suddenly, I am reminded that in Sumerian…Anu was the Sky god or god of the heavens. I believe that one of his consorts was Uras. [Uras + Anu]

Currently, January is the first month of our calendar and represents the Beginning as derived from “Ianuary” or the month of the morning father.

At certain times of the year, Sirius is the last Star to be seen as the Sun is rising in the morning.

As best as I can see…the morning father was the “Dog Star”.

Sirius = Osiris = Dog Star = Anu

[elreb]

Galley

In a nut shell:

Venetian [Adriatic Veneti], Phoenician and Veneti [Gaul] were blood related, western European seafaring traders originating in the area of Vannes, Brittany. The Veneti preferred building their boats using “Oak” the wood of both Zeus and Thor.

The Greeks gave Veneti ships names like Hippio and Galloi. Galloi or Gauloi derives from Gaul and became the standard Galley used in the Mediterranean.

Hippoi was a specialized boat used for shipping “Horses”. It is possible that the Hippoi came from Phoenician Poseidon and his connection with horses. In Minoan Crete [Knossos] Poseidon is called “Enesidaone”…compare…enesi-daone to Pho-enician.

This “work horse” of the sea would often sport a horse head which sometimes indicated Gades/Hades or modern Cadiz in Spain.

Now if we go back to Psammetichos [664 – 610 BC] who rewarded his allies the Ionians and Carians with places to live in called “The Camps”, opposite each other on either side of the Nile. They were described by Herodotus as being of Minoan descent.

The Hyksos capital & Port known as Avaris = El-Dab’a where the Minoan wall paintings at are of particular interest to Egyptologists and archaeologists.

Hyksos has an actual meaning of “Horse=People”. Less than 2 miles from Avaris we find the House of Ramses [Pi-Ramesses] and horse related stables and paraphernalia. [Estimated room for 460 horses]

PSS: Keep in mind that the “Experts” have dated history incorrectly keeping them clueless.

[elreb]

My theory is that the Phoenicians were nothing more than the Veneti from Vannes in Brittany.

Legend has it that the “Gaditanian Hippoi” boat received its name due to having a horse head carved on the bow.

Gades is modern Cadiz, located in the territory of Andalisia, Spain.

Andalusia appears to have received its name from Van-dalusia and is the home of the Andalusian war horse.

This thick necked horse is a dead ringer for the horses we see Akhenaten, Tut and Ramese riding.

My conclusion is that the horses in Egypt were of Andalusian/Vandalusian stock and where brought there by way of the Gaditanian hippoi.

NOTE: Let’s not forget Van and Lake Van…not far from Ararat…West to East or East to West…it all works.

[elreb]

Sanders,

You just can’t make this stuff up.

The town of “Arkum” in the province of “Mersin” in Turkey is a flood plain for the Goksu River, also known as the Saleph River.

In June of 1190, the German Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick I [Frederick Barbarossa/Red-Beard] fell off his horse and drowned in this river.

The confluence if this river is 5 miles south of the town of “Mut”. [Yes, the same Mut we hear of in Egypt. Mut is roughly 40 miles Northwest of Arkum.

30 miles west of “Mut” is the town of “Ermenek” in the “Karaman” province. Its ancient name was Germanicopolis and later they dropped the “G” and the opolis. [gErmenek]

Now to get to the point...

Of the tribes of Cyrus the Great…the Pasargadae, Pa-sar-gadae = Gades/Gadir of whom contained the clan of the Achaemenids [Akhmin] from which spring the Perseid kings. [House of Zeus]

A lesser tribe was called the Germanii.

Elreb

[Sanders]

I haven't read all of what you wrote, Elreb, but I sensed I should add that the Franks under Charlemagne had their seat in Aachen, while their Avar compatriots led by Makhir were centered in Autun. Aachen + Autun .... Aken-aton??????

And right next to Autun was/(is) Nevers ... named for Nefertiti???

If you reject that this is all coincidence, then you have to accept that the Avars, who and whose culture I think Charlemagne was quite fond of, had a history tracing back to Egypt, and that they (or, their Kagans at least) were quite aware of. (Two Avar Kagans were recorded - named Abraham & Isaac.) And, I believe the Frankish kings were aware of it and their own heritage tracing back to Egypt too.

The Avar cross, a cross with fleur-de-lis tips on the arms, shows up as the coat of arms of Michael Rangabe (Byzantine Holy Roman Emperor and grandfather of Melissena), that of the leader of the 1st Crusade Godfrey de Bouillon, the Fulks of Anjou and, as per a stained glass window rendering in Scotland, St. Margaret Queen of Scotland.

Yes, that's an Avar cross, and these very important people in the history of our elite flew it because they had Avar Kagans in their heritage.

That sort of curvy, elegant esthetic we think of as "French"? - That's Avar. Just google 'Avar Jewelry' and you can find plenty of beautiful "French-looking" pieces.

[elreb]

Only PhD “experts” reject reality.

Government education is a formal form of brain washing.

I would rather have a student dig deeper.

Example: Can anyone show proof that kings were christened with crocodile fat.

[Sanders]

There is no proof, there is only pseudo-historical (because the available writings are so old) and mythological writings ... and the trying to put the pieces together. The scholars and historians, I think, can not sense or have rejected a "larger picture" and are not trying to connect the dots in order to see such a larger picture .. i.e. they REJECT any such "larger picture", and so when the dots scream "connect me! connect me!" - they turn away. They say, naw, couldn't be, that's ridiculous. " These people couldn't all be one extended family, there could not be a so called "dragon bloodline", there could not be a genealogical vision shared by numerous "elite" families reaching back to Abraham "behind the curtain"."

It's just too fantastic.

But, they are wrong.

As an example of what I'm driving at, here's a direct quote written by a Pierpont writing about the Pierrepont ancestry:

"Meadows thereupon assumed the name of Pierrepont,
by Royal permission, and was afterwards created Earl Manvers,
as will be subsequently told ; and it is this nephew, Meadows,
and his descendants who have ever since possessed Holme
Pierrepont, this land of Canaan, to the exclusion of the eldest
males in the New England line, who were also of the seed of
Abraham, but were unfortunately not members of the favored
tribe."

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[elreb]

they REJECT any such "larger picture", and so when the dots scream "connect me! connect me!" - they turn away.

I could not have said it better…

Sherlock Holmes pointed out that, “They choose only to see that which conforms to their belief”.

[BarryWilliamsmb]

Recently became acquainted with Bucky Fuller.

This guy is the spread fish and loaves around dude.

Whooeee! I love Bucky!

[Tamborine man]

Recently became acquainted with Bucky Fuller.

This guy is the spread fish and loaves around dude.

Whooeee! I love Bucky!

Yes, concur - a really good man!

He knew how to marry the pentagon and the hexagon into a harmonious and beautiful 'whole'.

He would've loved the 'SuperCircle' had he been aware of this new-found 'neutral' form!
(A new form shown in the 'Life after Death' thread).


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-938394498520786588


Cheers

[Sanders]

Pssst - Bucky Fuller was probably one of "THEM".

[elreb]

Fuller resolved to think independently which included a commitment to "the search for the principles governing the universe and help advance the evolution of humanity…

By his own appraisal, he was a non-conforming misfit in the fraternity environment.

He finally chose to embark on "an experiment, to find what a single individual [could] contribute to changing the world and benefiting all humanity”.

All Fuller really needed was a glove.

(IMG:http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs/bits/posts/mjglove.jpg)

[Sanders]

I don't know about Michael Jackson's glove. But Fuller looks a lot like 'Fulda' to me. Fulda was ground zero to the Varangians, the prime blood which fed into the aristocracy of Europe from the 9th century on. A 'Fuller', maybe a member of the cult of people who were/are apparently attuned to, what they perceived as (correctly) secrets of the universe, of "sacred geometry".

Take a look for a second at Newton. The family coat of arms is a crossed bones symbol (its not even a symbol, it's a picture of crossed bones!) - and he was a Rosicrusian, and yes the Newton family was one of those who fought and won at the battle of Hastings, and this Isaac (pretty Hebrew sounding name) Newton is the guy who correctly described gravity to the world. (He was way into alchemy and magic, btw ... and I find it interesting that the myth surrounding his discovery regarding gravity involves an apple - the apple is always the symbol for human knowledge/self awareness/sin, and apple orchards are, in various mythologies, guarded by dragons which are usually slain.)

Apple=knowledge/self awareness/sin

Avar=apple

Fulda=VAR-angian stronghold ... the "Var" comes from Avar.

These people, back then, the reservoirs through the dark ages of human understanding, were the ancestors of our own elite.

Maybe 'Fuller' comes from Fulda, mayby it doesn't ... maybe he was just accidentally that smart, and somehow attuned to what is referred to as "sacred geometry"...

Or, maybe accidents are more rare than that.

[BarryWilliamsmb]

My ignorance of thread behavior is showing.

One last thing: Dude's book Operating Manual for Planet Earth.

[Tamborine man]

My ignorance of thread behavior is showing.

One last thing: Dude's book Operating Manual for Planet Earth.

From the 'Dude's manual above:

".......
You may very appropriately want to ask me how we are going to resolve the ever-acceleratingly dangerous impasse of world-opposed politicians and ideological dogmas. I answer, it will be resolved by the computer. Man has ever-increasing confidence in the computer; witness his unconcerned landings as airtransport passengers coming in for a landing in the combined invisibility of fog and night. While no politician or political system can ever afford to yield understandably and enthusiastically to theiradversaries and opposers, all politicians can and will yield enthusiastically to the computers safe flight-controlling capabilities in bringing all of humanity in for a happy landing.
So, planners, architects, and engineers take the initiative. Go to work, and above all co-operate and don’t hold back on one another or try to gain at the expense of another. Any success in such lopsidedness will be increasingly short-lived. These are the synergetic rules that evolution is employing and trying to make clear to us. They are not man-made laws. They are the infinitely accommodative laws of the intellectual integrity governing universe."

Thanks a lot for the link, Barry -

Cheers

This post has been edited by Tamborine man: Feb 14 2012, 11:12 AM

[BarryWilliamsmb]

You are very welcome Tam.

I learned plenty from Bucky's book.

[elreb]

There is no proof, there is only pseudo-historical (because the available writings are so old) and mythological writings ... and the trying to put the pieces together.
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Sanders,

Were you aware that crocodile dung was used as a method of birth control?

This is said to be scientifically verified---

I also heard that sheep bladders were turned into condoms!

[elreb]

Sanders,

Life must be good…
You do not respond to any of your several worlds.

What is your point unless you respond?