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Roughing out my Secret Service research, I expect this to get smoother

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post Oct 28 2006, 09:08 AM
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This is sort of a temporary holding thread for some of my info on the Secret Service until I can get it into a more polished form.

Archives of some LC threads dealing with the Netcom, the Netcom Heroes and Four Soldiers, Four Stories; 1108th Signals and Communications (Netcom) soldiers assigned to the Secret Service in NYC on 9/11 from

Disappearing Internet 9/11 Evidence- Blacked & 404, Check this out! was http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=14165

Am I On To Something Or Just Paranoid?, I'll let you decide was http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=11750

I Called Netcom!, THEY ARE WATCHING was http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...showtopic=14642

Justo Andaluz's Gateway complaint

my photobucket album containing some relevant screenshots on this story

Richard Spanard
EOD MU 6 Jim Prewitt EOD MU 6 EOD MU 6 (alternate)

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post Nov 5 2006, 05:51 AM
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Added a new one:

The article on page 8 (archive) makes at least 3 confirmed (and probably 4) military units that I'm aware of assigned to the Secret Service on the morning of 9/11 in NYC for the UN General Assembly (in addition to the 100 extra Secret Service personnel in NYC on 9/11, of course).


1108th Signals and Communications (Ft. Detrick)
Justo Andaluz
Stephen Atha
Robert Curtis
Joseph Wall (deceased)

Air Force Protective Communications Support team (Scott AFB)
Shawn Haynes
Craig Walentowski
Mark Provo (audio interview links here)
Lonnie Wells

Jim Prewitt (and team) (Navy EOD MU 6)
(probable) Richard Spanard (and team) (754th EOD Ft. Monmouth)

I figure at least one or two of these guys might be able to answer Cynthia McKinney's question on whether 9/11 was a NSSE.

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post Nov 6 2006, 01:19 AM
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I've updated my Secret Service in NYC on 9/11 blog entry to include most if not all of the above information. Below follows a bit more which I wrote and posted here (amidst a lot of other information). I'll try to cut out the duplication from the NYC blog post, so that this information can be read in addition to that. Additionally, the Complete 9/11 timeline has quite a bit of useful information and links as well in their Secret Service category. Some will have been duplicated by my work, but there is enough information not currently duplicated for them both to be worthwhile reading, I feel.

Secret Service had the ability to see what the FAA sees in real time, according to Richard Clarke, Dick Cheney and another source or two.

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Tigerwall System. Tigerwall is an air surveillance system currently used by the U.S. Secret Service to ensure enhanced physical security at a high-value asset location by providing early warning of airborne threats. SSC San Diego has assisted the Secret Service in implementing and maintaining the Tigerwall system by providing expertise gained from other SSC San Diego surveillance and physical security programs.
from the internet archive page of http://www.scitechweb.com/inhousereport/00navy/00spawar.html

http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sti/publication...3105/td3105.pdf for another source on Tigerwall (well, it used to be anyway- now all I get is a white screen which freezes, but I screenshotted my googling of it for you; hope that doesn't go away as well, huh?)
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In addition to the NYC information on my blog, we have:

An AWACS circling overhead as Bush slept on the night of 9/10, yet Air Force one took off without a military escort on 9/11?!

The United Nations General Assembly was scheduled to open on 9/11; sand filled garbage trucks blocked off an 8 block stretch of First Avenue, beginning sometime on 9/11- would that have prevented a plane hit?

A presence at the Pentagon before Flight 77 hit (Bush was scheduled to arrive there later in the day, they had the firetruck out by the helipad). ETA- this was probably a planned presence for later in the day rather than an actual presence in the AM hours based on rereading this...

Apparently, the Secret Service was also in contact with Andrews AFB (more on Andrews AFB here and here and here) in the early AM, ordering protection over DC.

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post Nov 6 2006, 12:27 PM
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To WATERDANCER --

Here's a link to something similar I posted back in July 2006 in the LC forum -- some folks added in some interesting things to consider. Hope it something you can use as well:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...wtopic=7768&hl=

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post Nov 6 2006, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (JerryB9105 @ Nov 6 2006, 04:27 PM)
To WATERDANCER --

Here's a link to something similar I posted back in July 2006 in the LC forum -- some folks added in some interesting things to consider.  Hope it something you can use as well:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_F...wtopic=7768&hl=

jb

Thanks Jerry, the only problem is I get an error message saying I don't have permission to view it from that link. Any chance you could maybe copy it for me? Thanks.

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To WATERDANCER -- Gee, I'm not sure about that -- it's six (6) full pages and from past experience with doing something similar to this the photographs and the links never seem to completely work when I've copied and pasted in the past // surely this time would prove no different.

Maybe JDX can help with this if he feels it to be truly important to furthering your research -- might want to ask him. Sorry. Hope you don't consider me doing this // asking you to do this // to be a 'cop out' my forum friend.
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