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[amazed!]

dMole #55

That photo reminds me very much of some of the photos we see of supersonic aircraft reaching Mach 1 at lower altitudes in moist air. In moist air, an aircraft propeller will show similar effects, as will the wing of Boeings and such at rotation angles of attack as the flow over the wing increases velocity. Moisture is the key, and I've seen it out the window on an airliner.

Skywriting apparatus--smoke generators--are common in airshows. A viscous material is introduced into the exhaust stack at some point to make smoke.

And I'm sure we have all seen contrails from WWII pictures of B-17s and 24s at high altitude.

As for Bill's suggestion about an airplane to collect samples, that's a good idea, but in order to keep costs down, one would have to be quite selective as to when and where any sampling took place. The vast majority are simply contrails, though I happily admit that chemtrails are possible.

[bill]

I would first get a sample of surface water,
or better yet, catch a sample from the start of a rain storm,
and have it spectra-analyzed to parts per billion.

Another suggestion,
is to go to your city municipality and ask for a recent drinking water analysis,
if the city water is collected from the surface, but this will probably only be listed to parts per million.

What goes up, must come down (unless it's hydrogen, helium, or methane.)

I have collected some rain and frost samples

I plan to run them on the ICP/MS in our office when I can get some time on it -- it is doing demos alot

It is good down to a few PPT (Parts Per Trillion) on most metals

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[lunk]

Is it possible to do soil samples too?

[bill]

soil samples are a big application for this technique


Some light reading

http://www.speciation.net/Appl/Techniques/...que.html?id=124

[lunk]

Some light reading

Ha Ha

[lunk]

It would be interesting to see if what is coming down in the rain water,
is being concentrated in the top soil.

I'm curious to see results when you get them,
at least from the rain water.

[amazed!]

Well the notion of "acid rain" has been around for decades.

[lunk]

Well the notion of "acid rain" has been around for decades.

Good idea, next time it rains here, I'll post the pH.

At first, scientists thought that the dust emitted into the atmosphere from large volcanic eruptions was responsible for the cooling by partially blocking the transmission of solar radiation to the Earth's surface. However, measurements indicate that most of the dust thrown in the atmosphere returned to the Earth's surface within six months. Recent stratospheric data suggests that large explosive volcanic eruptions also eject large quantities of sulfur dioxide gas which remains in the atmosphere for as long as three years. Atmospheric chemists have determined that the ejected sulfur dioxide gas reacts with water vapor commonly found in the stratosphere to form a dense optically bright haze layer that reduces the atmospheric transmission of some of the Sun's incoming radiation.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7y.html

They are actually suggesting this (spraying SO2 into the upper atmosphere, with planes) as a way to prevent global warming.
...after years of saying how bad acid rain is!

It's the metal-salt content of the rain, I wonder about.

imo, lunk

[beatles64]

I have heard this before as well, several times I feel.

Spraying SO2....to prevent Global Warming..... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
What are they going to spray to heat the planet when it is necessary?




On the subject of Chemtrails, I have a simple observation/question...


You know how when it is cold outside you can see your breath, and on certain days it will be more noticeable. Well, why wouldn't the same pertain to chemtrails? For example, I have seen many planes fly with no trail of any kind, many planes fly with small and short trails, and many planes fly with large and long trails....

I'm not sure I can tell the difference (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

[lunk]

Ever notice that there are fewer planes flying on days that they are not trailing?

I think that it is much more than greater observability (because of the persistent trails).

The actual number of planes, flying over my head, is greater on days when persistent contrails are predominant in the sky.

The planes that are leaving trails are flying in very strange paths, considering Vancouver is only to the south east.
...sometimes it looks like they are intentionally connecting clouds together, with these trails.

It's the waves in the sky, that I really notice, just unnatural and iridescently shimmering from the hand of man.
These waves are caused by radio waves. They seem to have an effect on the general mood of the public, calmness, anxiousness, (I see this in daily driving habits, somedays, everyone is racing and other days everyone is barely going the speed limit) it all depends on the frequency and waveform they broadcast from the high wattage HAARP type transmitters, world wide.

imo, lunk

[grizz]

These are supposedly gravity waves, but this looks rather weird to me.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXnkzeCU3bE

Lapse of gravity wave action from the Tama, Iowa KCCI-TV webcam on 6 May 2007.

[lunk]

Lapse of gravity wave action from the Tama, Iowa KCCI-TV webcam on 6 May 2007.

Wow! I sure wouldn't want to see one of those crest and break.
It's like being under the sea.

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The waves I'm seeing are smaller than that.

This post has been edited by lunk: Nov 19 2008, 10:41 PM

[lunk]

Another example of what I'm talking about:

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I took these pictures myself, I think these are scalar waves.

This post has been edited by lunk: Nov 19 2008, 11:19 PM

[paranoia]

the following were all taken about 3 weeks ago in a span of less than one hour near zip code 22204 (less than a mile from the pentagon and washington DC), and in that hour i counted at least 12 seperate planes making huge trails in the sky:


(they are in reverse chronological order)

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[paranoia]

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there was much more activity in the sky and it continued for long after the above shots, i wanted to document more of it, but my camera ran out of battery power so i couldnt get anymore pics...

[lunk]

Great pictures!

It was a beautiful day here, yesterday.
I was working outdoors, I saw only 2 jet planes, fly over,
going in the direction of Vancouver. They left no lingering trails.
There was nowhere near the number of flights flying over my head, on days that trails are left in the sky. The clouds were normal during most of the day and the sky was a real blue, not milky at all.

I have been taking my camera everywhere I go (with a spare battery) and I have hundreds of pictures of planes leaving persistent trails.
No, I wont post them, there are too many pictures.

However, there are two things going on in our atmosphere;
dispersion of chemicals, and high wattage radio waves.
The first film from Japan, was of these radio waves affecting the shape of clouds, not necessarily chemtrails, although the chemicals from chemtrails, may have mixed with the cloud, sometime earlier.

So, I think it is important to distinguish between the two.

At first glance this sky appears to be blue, but on closer examination,
One can see thin arcs of cloud.
(IMG:http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp210/rongrite/IMG_6259.jpg)
I guess if I knew the altitude of these clouds, I could calculate the radius to the source of these arcs. The direction points directly toward HAARP in Alaska.

Hmm, If this is the case, maybe I could calculate the altitude.

This post has been edited by lunk: Nov 19 2008, 11:15 PM

[amazed!]

Beatles

You are exactly right--the moisture content and temperature of any given air sample has EVERYTHING to do with the appearance of contrails. I don't know why that is so difficult for some to grasp.

Don't know for sure, but I've heard that the nuances in the chemical composition of the fuel being burned also effects the appearance of the contrail.

Just saw some pictures the other day, can't remember where, taken from the tailgunner position on WWII B-17s. At altitude, every ship in the formation behind, maybe 6 or 8, was producing contrails on avgas.

[lunk]

How about checkerboard patterns in clouds?
(IMG:http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp210/rongrite/IMG_6272.jpg)
Is this, too, a natural phenomena?

This is a phenomena I see repeatedly, in the sky,
and not just a single freak random event.

imo, lunk

This post has been edited by lunk: Nov 19 2008, 11:00 PM

[beatles64]

Lunk

I clicked on those picture, and received an error message*.....why can't I view them?





*Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information.

[lunk]

That's strange. I can see them fine.

You may be able to right click on the file and download it,
I don't know.

I can upload small files as attachments, when I post.
This is the first times I used this feature.

Can anyone embed my pictures?

It's OK, I figured it out.

(edit) I set up a photobucket acc, and re edited all my attachments to linx

This post has been edited by lunk: Nov 19 2008, 11:13 PM