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Where Are Pilots For Chemtrail Truth?, We need whistleblower pilots to expose chemtrails

MikeR
post Apr 25 2014, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE (almerie @ Apr 24 2014, 09:17 PM) *
I am still waiting for these data...

Why is it so hard to present here and why is this question always dodged?


Whatever makes you think Dane has ever seen your questions...
and as he obviously hasn't, why not email him direct....
and ask?

Then tell us all the result of your great effort rolleyes.gif

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almerie
post Apr 25 2014, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (MikeR @ Apr 25 2014, 01:48 AM) *
Whatever makes you think Dane has ever seen your questions...
and as he obviously hasn't, why not email him direct....
and ask?

Then tell us all the result of your great effort rolleyes.gif

M


The question was for you, since you have been making the claims on this forum.

Then I must assume that you have not seen these data?

How can you post your claims without knowing what kind of data, if any, lies behind them?
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MikeR
post Apr 25 2014, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (almerie @ Apr 25 2014, 06:59 PM) *
The question was for you, since you have been making the claims on this forum.

Then I must assume that you have not seen these data?

How can you post your claims without knowing what kind of data, if any, lies behind them?


My dear friend, of course I know all about the data...
but, as you have shown no faith whatsobloodyever in
chemtralia information and research links, and in the
interpretation of anything on this forum,
I fondly thought you would warmly appreciate
the opportunity you yourself create
to check the evidence direct from the source and then
tell any and all of us who need to know.

I already know about chemtrails... it is your
uninformed skeptics who can benefit from
your researches, and you are super-smart
to seek Dane's input.

I am sure he will be happy to fill you in.

MikeR

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almerie
post Apr 27 2014, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE (MikeR @ Apr 25 2014, 10:46 PM) *
My dear friend, of course I know all about the data...
but, as you have shown no faith whatsobloodyever in
chemtralia information and research links, and in the
interpretation of anything on this forum,
I fondly thought you would warmly appreciate
the opportunity you yourself create
to check the evidence direct from the source and then
tell any and all of us who need to know.

I already know about chemtrails... it is your
uninformed skeptics who can benefit from
your researches, and you are super-smart
to seek Dane's input.

I am sure he will be happy to fill you in.

MikeR


Nonsense, you are dodging again.

I have been to Wigingtons website many times in search of hard data, but have found none so far.

If there is hard data as evidence of 'chemtrails' why is this not on the frontpage? Or at least a link from the FrontPage? Why has it not been published in a scientific journal?

Instead Wigington has placed a video of aircraft making contrails as 'proof' of chemtrails.

Is this really all you've got?
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MikeR
post Apr 29 2014, 03:00 AM
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QUOTE (almerie @ Apr 27 2014, 07:39 PM) *
Is this really all you've got?



I am not your Minder.
Ask Dane
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kawika
post May 27 2014, 10:53 AM
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A worker testifies that he installed systems into aircraft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnCaE_3hImY

Some links to documents (most in German) about 1/2 way down the comments.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/insider-speaks-out/

LOOK UP!

Do your eyes deceive you?
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almerie
post May 28 2014, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (kawika @ May 27 2014, 11:53 AM) *
A worker testifies that he installed systems into aircraft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnCaE_3hImY

Some links to documents (most in German) about 1/2 way down the comments.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/insider-speaks-out/

LOOK UP!

Do your eyes deceive you?


This guy has already been debunked as everything else about 'chemtrails':

German worker debunked
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MikeR
post Jun 4 2014, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (almerie @ May 28 2014, 06:59 PM) *
This guy has already been debunked as everything else about 'chemtrails':

German worker debunked


Surely you're not still in bed with that shill of a debunker?

The guy has no integrity: he couldn't even lie straight in the sack.

What in hell makes you think he'd know how to debunk?
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almerie
post Jun 4 2014, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (MikeR @ Jun 4 2014, 01:30 PM) *
Surely you're not still in bed with that shill of a debunker?

The guy has no integrity: he couldn't even lie straight in the sack.

What in hell makes you think he'd know how to debunk?
laughing1.gif


Well, ad hom attacks as usual, no surprise there.

Have you actually read the comments from Mike West?

If so, how about a valid counter-argument?

If not, you really should.

The essence is that this german guy lied to a bunch of people that did not even question his statements.
Who is the real sheep here?
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MikeR
post Jun 9 2014, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE (almerie @ Jun 5 2014, 06:39 AM) *
Well, ad hom attacks as usual, no surprise there.

Have you actually read the comments from Mike West?

If so, how about a valid counter-argument?

If not, you really should.

The essence is that this german guy lied to a bunch of people that did not even question his statements.
Who is the real sheep here?



I have read way-y-y too many of Mick West's lies and innuendo...

Mick wouldn't even accept my registration on his site:
at least Rob Balsamo got through that hurdle even
if the stupid webmaster couldn't tolerate Rob's insights

No surprise your brand of myopia finds solace in the bottom bunk

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almerie
post Jun 10 2014, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE (MikeR @ Jun 9 2014, 08:06 PM) *
I have read way-y-y too many of Mick West's lies and innuendo...

Mick wouldn't even accept my registration on his site:
at least Rob Balsamo got through that hurdle even
if the stupid webmaster couldn't tolerate Rob's insights

No surprise your brand of myopia finds solace in the bottom bunk


Again Ad Hom attacks and no real arguments.

Be constructive and point out where Mike West is lying about this particular subject?
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outsider
post Jan 10 2017, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 1 2014, 05:52 AM) *
First, you do not need to increase the size of your font here. People can read just fine.

Second.... We are in the same place I expressed to you the last time Harold, (along with many others who have concerns regarding 'chemtrails').

P4T has more Pilots than most Airlines have started with... including such Majors as Delta, Northwest, USAir... i could go on.

Your images obviously found on the net... do not prove anything...

"Chemtrails" are perhaps the easiest "theory" to prove. All we need is an airplane to go up there and fly through such "materials". We can lower the landing gear at slow speeds, and at such concentration, the "chemicals" would no doubt stick to every bolt, screw, actuator, intake, flap mechanism, pitot tube.. even the nav lights.. .the list goes on.

Ever seen what a Crop Duster looks like after spraying a field? There is all kinds of shit caked onto the airframe....

Now imagine what it would be like following behind flying in the spray...


Then we land and take samples.

Mike Rivero and Alex Jones have been touting "chemtrails" for years. They have both had multiple "money bombs" to expand their networks/studios.

Why not have a "money bomb" to buy an airplane and go fly up there to get samples?

I have sent such requests to both Mike and Alex over the years... and we are willing to fly it for free. Unfortunately, we have never heard a reply.

So... you want "Pilots For Chemtrail Truth"?

Get us an airplane, show us what you feel is a "chemtrail"... we will go fly through it... and we will find out the truth... as I requested the last time we spoke.



Rob, if any of you do get to fly a plane into the chemtrails (and I certainly hope you do get the funding) wouldn't there be a more scientific way of getting samples, like some sort of vaccum containers that would be opened and sealed again remotely from the cockpit?
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (Quest @ Mar 2 2014, 10:52 AM) *
1. It's not an argument, it's an opinion. Police detectives make arrests based on opinions all the time. They also make arrests based on photos and videos on a regular basis. Her you ever heard the statement, "It is the opinion of this court..."?

2. I agree with you on that one. In a perfect world, some government body (FAA, FBI?) would actually track one of these planes and search it.

3. Again, "believe" is merely an opinion. Opinion would not necessarily hold up in a court of law, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Opinions carry more weight when bolstered by additional evidence whether it be DNA, eyewitnesses and yes, photos and videos but criminals are busted based on "opinion" all the time.

4. I agree with Rob, that it would be a great idea but it's not necessary. No more necessary than we would have to make up models of actual size WTC towers and control demolition them to prove they were in fact demolished by explosives. There is already more than enough evidence in which to get a warrant and launch an investigation into the illegal geoengineering of our skies and the evidence comes in the form of videos, photos, ground and soil test samples. Btw, you and I are also eyewitnesses to this crime; just go outside and look over your head and take some air/soil samples. Whether you believe it or not, if I'm right, YOU and YOUR family are breathing this crap and it's destroying YOUR environment as well.

Almerie, can I have your opinion on the following photo? Ordinary contrails? Also, does the pattern of these "contrails" strike you as odd?

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/wp-cont...ature-image.jpg


Quest, it doesn't need a plane to be tracked back to base; Kristen Meghan names two bases involved, so all it would take is filming the aircraft taking off and landing. That should show any extraneous appendages like spray nozzles, and perhaps spray muck stuck to the aircraft themselves.
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post Feb 18 2017, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 1 2014, 11:29 AM) *
tonybird, feel free to provide the airplane, and we will fly it to any "chemtrail" you point to.


Rob, I am a 9/11 Truther liiving in London, UK. I am also convinced of this Geoengineering Aerosol Spraying ('Chemtrails').

I believe your offer to fly a plane into a contrail for free is admirable, but why does the aircraft need to be bought?
Could not one be hired? If so, do you have an idea how much a suitable one would cost to hire (I don't know how long you would need the aircraft for)?
If there was a concrete costed offer on the table, it seems to me there are enough people who believe in this to fund it via a 'Fund Me' type program.
Also, I believe your idea of slowing down and dropping the landing gear to get residue might be augmented with an actual 'capture' of the contaminated air by some kind of vacuum device - I should imagine Meteorological tests of upper atmosphere by balloons use them. It could hardly add much to the cost, but would be a 'belt and braces' means of being sure what was in the chemtrails (other than water vapour).

I get the feeling you don't believe it is going on.
Can you please, therefore, comment on the following two short videos?
High Bypass Turbofan Jet Engines, Geoengineering, And The Contrail Lie ( GeoengineeringWatch.org ) (7 1/2 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRjmzy9XcaY...a1E&index=2

Irrefutable Film Footage Of Climate Engineering Aerosol Spraying ( GeoengineeringWatch.org ) (2 minutes):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwfFtDF...p;v=iK9nVR9H34g

Is it your opinion that the picture of the Air Canada plane at the beginning of this thread by Harold Saive, show Pylon Drains, or something else? Personally I haven't a clue, but as pilots I'm sure you would know, or could find out quite easily.


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