History and the "Elite", Sanders, elreb, Quest Options

[elreb]

Speaking of king Tut statues…when we think of Jesus we imagine him with a robe, sandals and a Shepherd crook…ever wonder where the idea came from…

(IMG:http://abqarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ART-Tutankhamuns-Gold-Sandals.jpg) (IMG:http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kWnD1qfyTls/SgdCVHI54AI/AAAAAAAACSU/BoCIZ4H0brA/s320/KingTut0010.JPG)


Tut was the son of Amun/Zeus [Akhenaten] and his mother was Mary [Merytaten] who was also his older sister. This in turn would make Tut “self-created” and explains how Zeus was able to come to her in a shower of gold.

Sometime around 530 BC, "Akhenaten the Great" and his army attacked the Massagetae…a great and warlike nation, dwelling eastward, toward the rising of the sun, beyond the river Araxes, and opposite the Issedonians. By many they are regarded as a Scythian race.

"Akhenaten the Great" was ultimately killed, and his forces suffered massive casualties in what Herodotus referred to as the fiercest battle of his career and the ancient world.

Tomyris ordered the body of Akhenaten brought to her, then beheaded him and dipped his head in a skin of human blood and had his corpse crucified…

His body and head were later recovered and sent to Egypt for Burial

According to Mark 16:12…“After this he appeared in another form to two of them, as they were walking into the country”.

The above statement having the double meaning that Akhenaten was born again and resurrected in “his son of his own body” = Tut.

Bingo…Jesus I and Jesus II

[elreb]

(IMG:http://techyum.com/blog%20art/mn_croc_attack_xtpe801.jpg) The hand of god...oops...

PSS: The photo is real http://www.thestar.com/News/article/202380

Would I kid you Sanders...my entire story is real...

[Sanders]

Ahh, yes, the dragon has many attributes. Handle with care.

[elreb]

This should pretty much be Jesus.

Professor Edward Wente of the University of Chicago and Dr. James Harris of the University of Michigan regard the mummy tagged as Amenhotep III as actually being Amenhotep IV based in part on the size of the skull and in part that the craniofacial features are more consistent with sculpted portraits of Akhenaten.

DNA results agree with a direct relationship with this mummy and king Tut and KV55 [Smenkhare]

The original unwrapping report on this mummy indicated a body that "went thru hell"…

The head was separated from the body…
There was severe trauma to the body and chest area indicating impalement or crucifixion…
Mummification was crude at best…most likely hurried…

The man was almost completely bald, missing a few front teeth before death and suffered from tooth-ache and dental abscesses. He had Periodontitis and Calculus from poor dental hygiene...Not exactly a pretty boy…


(IMG:http://cdn.wn.com/pd/d0/2d/9a826e151dc890a8ecd40acd6a42_grande.jpg) Amen…brother…

[elreb]

(IMG:http://img.yessy.com/349606644-20882b.jpg) Pray to me...fool

[elreb]

I’m not sure if there is a simple way to break this down but one aspect of Egyptian belief was resurrection from the dead.

One school of thought was the living of three LIVES.

The first LIFE is “Lord of Light”[Atan]
The second LIFE is the unrevealed Life..."the Life which is no Life" [Amun}
The third LIFE is the architect of the Visible Universe {Osiris]

The “Ba” was most important because it contained your thoughts when you were alive…more or less your intellectual DNA.
The “Ka” was simply the aspect of being alive and could move on when the organic body died.

Your “Ba” would remain in limbo until it found a fresh “Ka” of the next LIFE

After evolving to the third LIFE you became immortal

(IMG:http://www.neferchichi.com/images/pharaohs/aten.gif) Aten or Atan “Lord of Light”

Another factor in eternal life is the Ankh…that actually reads as “eternal life” but can also indicate life and living.

To some degree…it can be considered as a “KEY” to the other world where the gods live.

It was the light and the “Enlightenment” achieved…that was considered as the highest god…

(IMG:http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/egypt/E-350Wankh.jpg) Those who accepted Akhenaten the Great as their “Lord” could achieve immortality by evolving to the third life.

[Sanders]

Elreb, you've gotta read "Secret History of the World" by Jonathan Black.

[elreb]

Elreb, you've gotta read "Secret History of the World" by Jonathan Black.

It is a world that yawned and said "whatever" when confronted by the theory that the British royal family are descended from giant lizards. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif)

[elreb]

Apparently, Ramses II was 16 years older than Akhenaten and appears to be his Uncle on his mother’s side. A close examination of the skulls of mummy #61074 and #61078 you would think that they were twins.

Funny thing is…I understand it all and it is still confusing…Ramses’ father Menmaatre is still a problem but definitely a close relationship to Amenhotep III Nebmaatre.


King Syennesis of Cilicia and king Labynetos [Nabonidus] of Babylon formalized peace through the marriage..Alyattes II should give his daughter Aryenis to Cyaxares I son Astyages. [585BC]

Croesus of Lydia, Cyaxares I of Media, Nabopolassar of Babylon, Cambyses I of Ansan

Nebuchadnezzar II the son of Nabopolassar married Amytis the daughter of Cyaxares I.

Astyages the son of Cyaxares I was married Aryenis the daughter of Alyattes II.

Cambyses I the son of Cyrus I was married to Mandana of Media the daughter of Astyages of Media & Aryenis of Lydia

If Ty is = to Mandana then Aryenis is = to Tuya

Ty/Mandana father Astyages of Media would be Yuya

Tuya/Aryenis would be mother to Ramses II and Ty

Yuya/Astyages would be brother to Mut of Media the mother of Amen III/Cambyses I

Tuya/Aryenis the daughter of king Alyattes II of Lydia and the sister of King Croesus of Lydia

Achaemenid dynasty was = Akhminid dynasty

Akhenaten was = Cyrus the Great [600-530 BC]

Tut was = Cambyses II [540-522 BC]

Arsames was = Ramses I

Ay was = Hystaspes the father of Darius/Horemheb

Ramses II was = Ahmose II/Amasis II [616-526 BC]

Nefertiti was = Nitetis daughter of Apries

Battus II of Cyrene [583-560 BC] was = Hattusilis whose daughter Maathorneferure was given to Ramses/Amasis

[elreb]

Looking at the dates…my brother thinks that Nebuchadnezzar II [634 – 562 BC] is a good pick for being Seti I and the father of Ramses II…

More on this later…

[elreb]

This is what Ramses/Ahmose II looked like…they were not Bantu...
(IMG:http://clustere.sevenload.net/dataF004/data42/slcom/ms/nj/kppmlkd/wysegilhjnjf.jpg) (IMG:http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/wp-content/uploads/ikra-01f-ramses-ii-l.jpg) (IMG:http://cdn.wn.com/pd/d0/2d/9a826e151dc890a8ecd40acd6a42_grande.jpg)

[elreb]

(IMG:http://s3.hubimg.com/u/1249694_f260.jpg) If everything else pans out…this should be “James the Just” brother of Jesus II…

[Sanders]

Well, I'm definitely keeping my mind open. "Achaemenid dynasty = Akhminid dynasty" is pretty much a no-brainer.

[elreb]

Well, I'm definitely keeping my mind open. "Achaemenid dynasty = Akhminid dynasty" is pretty much a no-brainer.

The problem and solution to the 18th dynasty are the dates.

Dog Star dating is speculative hocus pocus…

Hard…Carbon-14 evidence…placing the 18th dynasty in 600 BC has purposefully been overlooked & discounted…

In 600 BC who else could these Akhminids have been?

I would like to see something like the TV show “Bones”, where a highly skilled forensic anthropologist, who when the standard methods of identifying a body are useless (when the remains are so badly decomposed, burned or destroyed), Egypt calls on Brennan for her uncanny ability to read clues left behind in the victim's bones.

[Tamborine man]

(IMG:http://s3.hubimg.com/u/1249694_f260.jpg) If everything else pans out…this should be “James the Just” brother of Jesus II…

Elreb, can you please explain the reason for that devious, or is it a self-satisfied, greased grin

this bloke seem so proud of displaying? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Cheers

[elreb]

Elreb, can you please explain the reason for that devious, or is it a self-satisfied, greased grin this bloke seem so proud of displaying?

I have gone back and forth between the several stories and personally believe the story that Horemheb/Darius had Smenkhkara/Smerdis taken prisoner and executed.

It was a stroke of luck that Tutankhamun/Cambyses killed himself and all that remained were the daughters of Akhenaten/Cyrus. Darius had a field day.

Smerdis and Cambyses were said to be brothers of the same mother but that Cambyses was the older brother. The problem is that the skull KV55 seems older than Tut and the only way I see this happening is that KV55 was still alive and lived a little longer.

However KV55 did died, it did not seem tramatic…

[elreb]

This should be mother and son...

(IMG:http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/wp-content/uploads/ikra-01f-ramses-ii-l.jpg) (IMG:http://anubis4_2000.tripod.com/subpics1/Tuyu2.jpg)

[elreb]

A full inventory of the Egyptian Museum has found that looters escaped with 18 items…the most important of the missing objects is a limestone statue of the Pharaoh Akhenaten standing and holding an offering table…Also gone is a gilded wooden statue of the 18th Dynasty King Tutankhamun, Akhenaten's son, being carried by a goddess. Pieces are also missing from another statue of the boy king wielding a fishing harpoon from a boat.

The other missing items are a statue of Nefertiti making offerings, a sandstone head of a princess and a stone statuette of a scribe from Amarna, a heart scarab and 11 wooden funerary statuettes of the nobleman Yuya.

[elreb]

What we do know is that the “Battiad” dynasty of Cyrene was the “Khita”…”Khatti”…sons of Heth

The Libyans and their king Adicran along with an Egyptian force engaged in War with Battus

Both Seti and Ramses are seen in War with these people. Battus II ruled from 583-560 BC and Nebuchadnezzar II ruled from 605-562 BC and Amasis II ruled from 570-526 BC therefore all these guys knew each other.

Look at this battle scene between Seti and the Khita and note on the right side are several riders on horseback…

More proof these folks rode bareback on horses…just like the Persians…

Zoom in on this picture...

http://www.art.com/products/p13267389-sa-i...archstring=seti

Sons of Heth =

Sidon was actually Kydonia/Cydonia on Crete from King Cydon, a son of Hermes and of Akakallis, the daughter of King Minos [Minoan]

A branch were the Phrygians in Anatolia and allies to Troy

A branch were Theraians and Cretans in Cyrene

These were not Greeks...

[Sanders]

Amazing amount of info in here. Really enjoying it.