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The Sockpuppets Invading P4t, Like cockroaches, they are arriving

JimMac
post Mar 3 2014, 01:29 AM
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Have you noticed it? I've been posting on P4T since 2009, and been in a lot of battles here defending the truth. After awhile one becomes seasoned, developing a radar for the shills, dogs from hell. I want to announce to you, something is up. The paid liars are here, flapping their gums, pounding their keyboards. Be on alert.
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post Mar 10 2014, 12:40 PM
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"Bill, I have seen the filters from aircraft. If chemicals were being sprayed in high concentrations at altitude and an aircraft fly's (sic) through it, not only would the filters be caked with the stuff, but so would the airframe... similar to this...."


Gee, rob, that picture looks like ice to me, but then I am not an airline captain so maybe
I don't know what ice looks like (it's a King Air isn't it ? but I digress)

what makes you think that you would see the particles on the filters at or the aircraft wings at all ?

the patents for geoengineering using particles seem to favor very small particles of Aluminum and Barium salts

comparing them to crop dusting is ridiculous unless you know of some dusters that fly at Mach .8


it is ironic that trying to engage a meaningful discussion about this topic seems to turn into some variation of things I heard more than once in grade school in various forms --it went something like this

"if you don't like it, then I will just take my ball and go home"



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post Mar 10 2014, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (bill @ Mar 10 2014, 12:40 PM) *
Gee, rob, that picture looks like ice to me, but then I am not an airline captain so maybe


It is Ice.... it is an example of what an airplane looks like when flying through solid visible particles.


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what makes you think that you would see the particles on the filters at or the aircraft wings at all ?


For the same reason people like you claim to see them in the air.

Do you think these are chemicals?



And if so... Are those concentration levels of "chemtrails" more dangerous to humans who fly through the above.... Or are the concentration levels more dangerous if standing on the ground underneath them....? Second time asked....

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Are the "chemtrail" crews who fly such "criss-cross" patterns in the sky wearing O2 masks? Or do they just breath the air (and "chemicals") sucked into the engines, compressed, and then dumped into the cabin while waiting for it to "refresh"... with more "chemicals"?

What about all the other airplanes flying through such high concentrations of "chemicals". Do the pilots drop the masks for passengers when they see such upcoming mayhem? And then ask the passengers to stow their masks after they pass through and a cabin "refresh"? What if they are stuck in a widespread "chemtrail" operation for more than an hour? 2 hours? 3? What then?

Why do you evade these questions?

How would they get airspeed readings? Do the pitot-tubes have HEPA filters as well? Or perhaps they just turn on the Pitot anti-ice and melt away the chemicals? lol

AOA vanes? TAT probes, FADEC probes? All have HEPA filters?



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the patents for geoengineering using particles seem to favor very small particles of Aluminum and Barium salts


Are you now claiming that the particles/chemicals get through the HEPA filters and enter the cabin and the lungs of the passengers and crew? If so, why did you bring up the HEPA filters in the first place?


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comparing them to crop dusting is ridiculous...


No, it isn't.

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it is ironic that trying to engage a meaningful discussion about this topic


This discussion would not exist if I did not allow it. Again... this is Pilots For 9/11 Truth. Do you know how many of our Core members absolutely despise such a topic and think it is utterly ridiculous to even discuss?




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"if you don't like it, then I will just take my ball and go home"


This is my "home". I am already here. Do you allow people to come into your home and shit on your floor? Maybe you do... but we have a higher standard on this forum and within our organization.

Again, let me know if you need tips in building your own "home"..


Bill, if you evade my questions again... on mod preview you go... until you answer...
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post Mar 10 2014, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 10 2014, 12:10 PM) *
It is Ice.... it is an example of what an airplane looks like when flying through solid visible particles.





"For the same reason people like you claim to see them in the air."


Well I do see the results of the particles as they appear to condense out in the upper atmosphere. I absolutely do not claim to see the Aluminum and Barium particles.





Do you think these are chemicals?

I think that they are artificially created persistent cloud formations induced by the chemical actions of Aluminum and Barium salts as proposed in several US patents.



And if so... Are those concentration levels of "chemtrails" more dangerous to humans who fly through the above.... Or are the concentration levels more dangerous if standing on the ground underneath them....? Second time asked....

I did not previously answer this because I assumed it was a rhetorical question

I would presume that the concentration is higher in the 'trails than at a lower level due to dilution effects through the atmosphere.

Again...
Are the "chemtrail" crews who fly such "criss-cross" patterns in the sky wearing O2 masks? Or do they just breath the air (and "chemicals") sucked into the engines, compressed, and then dumped into the cabin while waiting for it to "refresh"... with more "chemicals"?

I honestly do not know if they breathe separate air supplies. You have already confirmed that the cabin air is filtered. If they are military planes I would think it likely that they are breathing through masks but that is speculation only.

"What about all the other airplanes flying through such high concentrations of "chemicals". Do the pilots drop the masks for passengers when they see such upcoming mayhem? And then ask the passengers to stow their masks after they pass through and a cabin "refresh"? What if they are stuck in a widespread "chemtrail" operation for more than an hour? 2 hours? 3? What then?"

Well based on my several million miles flying commercial airlines I have never seen the emergency masks deployed. So based on my experience I would say no they don't deploy emergency masks.



"Why do you evade these questions?"

Because I did not think you were seriously asking these rather poorly worded and sarcastic questions and expecting an answer.





"Are you now claiming that the particles/chemicals get through the HEPA filters and enter the cabin and the lungs of the passengers and crew? If so, why did you bring up the HEPA filters in the first place?"

HEPA filters are what was listed in the article I posted as being used to filter the cabin air on commercial




No, it isn't.



"This discussion would not exist if I did not allow it. Again... this is Pilots For 9/11 Truth. Do you know how many of our Core members absolutely despise such a topic and think it is utterly ridiculous to even discuss?"

No I don't. How many ?



"This is my home. I am already here. Do you allow people to come into your home and shit on your floor? Maybe you do... but we have a higher standard on this forum and within our organization.

Again, let me know if you need tips in building your own "home"..


Bill, if you evade my questions again... on mod preview you go... until you answer...


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