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The Sockpuppets Invading P4t, Like cockroaches, they are arriving

JimMac
post Mar 3 2014, 01:29 AM
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Have you noticed it? I've been posting on P4T since 2009, and been in a lot of battles here defending the truth. After awhile one becomes seasoned, developing a radar for the shills, dogs from hell. I want to announce to you, something is up. The paid liars are here, flapping their gums, pounding their keyboards. Be on alert.
Jim

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post Mar 11 2014, 12:00 PM
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Bill, you are a pilot.

Are you familiar with pressurization systems?

If so, are you willing to debate me with regard to airliners who fly through higher concentrations of "chemtrails" at altitude daily with cabins full of passengers?

But to answer your question, sure, I am willing to "debate" Quest on such a topic. And I have told him what he needs to do to provide support for his argument, including the fact I have offered my services to obtain such proof.

From what I have seen so far, "Quest" gets very upset when others ask for actual evidence and chain of custody... and has attacked others calling them trolls and shills.

In short, debating "Quest" on such a topic is like debating a 15 year old on how to drive a car in which the 15 year old knowledge is derived mostly from playing GTA on a PS3.

Quest has absolutely zero aeronautical knowledge, and gets frustrated when put in a tight spot in which he cannot answer. The same goes for JimMac.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you canít do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated,

But you do have some aeronautical knowledge. So at least you know the language a bit....

So Bill, wanna debate me on "chemtrails"?

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In other words, you don't know how aircraft pressurization systems operate.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you canít do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated,

Bill, as with 9/11 (linking parts recovered to the aircraft), anytime you get samples taken from an aircraft, please provide the tail numbers and crew names. Until then you have nothing but theories, and no chain of custody.


We already know Weather modification is a fact... but it has not been proven such operations are being performed on a large scale for nefarious purposes.

I have seen Kristen's presentation. It was interesting, but she didn't provide any evidence linking "chemtrails" to a specific aircraft, on a specific date, altitudes, origin airport, destination... names.... nothing.

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the ďplay dumbĒ rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon).

Again, thousands of flights are airborne daily. If they are flying through high concentrations of "chemtrails" at altitude, there would be thousands of people dead or dying in correlation to air travel.

We have pilots with 25-30000 hours total flight time and in good health. How is that possible if they spend a good portion of their lives flying through chemicals sprayed in high concentrations at their altitudes?

Are the chemicals somehow benign and safe to breathe as they come out of the aircraft nozzles at altitude, while getting sucked into thousands of other aircraft engines flying through the materials, compressed, and pumped into cabins..... but somehow become more toxic when they hit the ground spread out over a wide area?

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponentís argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.


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- JimMac   The Sockpuppets Invading P4t   Mar 3 2014, 01:29 AM
- - tonybird   Well, I'm recently returned to this forum beca...   Mar 3 2014, 07:26 AM
- - hanky   I thought it was so obvious these last few months,...   Mar 3 2014, 04:09 PM
|- - NP1Mike   Yes Jim I agree with you. I mentioned this in anot...   Mar 3 2014, 04:46 PM
- - paranoia   "...just from the sheer massive glut of off-t...   Mar 4 2014, 03:14 AM
|- - JimMac   QUOTE (paranoia @ Mar 4 2014, 03:14 AM) ...   Mar 4 2014, 05:05 AM
- - JimMac   How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manip...   Mar 4 2014, 08:00 PM
|- - WhisperingWnd   QUOTE (JimMac @ Mar 4 2014, 07:00 PM) How...   Mar 4 2014, 10:04 PM
|- - JimMac   QUOTE (WhisperingWnd @ Mar 4 2014, 10:04 ...   Mar 4 2014, 11:11 PM
|- - poppyburner   QUOTE (The Guardian)Revealed: US spy operation tha...   Mar 5 2014, 06:33 AM
- - Quest   What I'm curious of is this, if you knew a cer...   Mar 6 2014, 08:44 PM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (Quest @ Mar 6 2014, 07:44 PM) What...   Mar 6 2014, 08:53 PM
|- - JimMac   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Mar 6 2014, 08:53 PM) It...   Mar 6 2014, 09:34 PM
|- - Quest   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Mar 7 2014, 01:53 AM) It...   Mar 6 2014, 10:43 PM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (Quest @ Mar 6 2014, 09:43 PM) ...S...   Mar 6 2014, 10:49 PM
- - rob balsamo   Sockpuppets are those who have 2 or more userID...   Mar 6 2014, 11:55 PM
|- - hanky   It seems that I am accused of being a lying troll....   Mar 11 2014, 07:00 PM
||- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (hanky @ Mar 11 2014, 07:00 PM) It ...   Mar 11 2014, 07:21 PM
||- - hanky   By the way, I mentioned I have been observing thes...   Mar 13 2014, 12:26 AM
|- - hanky   Rob? What happened to the post I made yesterday?   Mar 12 2014, 11:50 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (hanky @ Mar 12 2014, 11:50 PM) Rob...   Mar 13 2014, 07:04 AM
|- - hanky   Hah! I figured out the multi-page thing, but I...   Mar 13 2014, 06:53 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (hanky @ Mar 13 2014, 06:53 PM) Hah...   Mar 13 2014, 07:34 PM
- - JimMac   I'm leaving this form in disgust. Rob has my r...   Mar 7 2014, 12:08 AM
|- - poppyburner   QUOTE (JimMac @ Mar 7 2014, 04:08 AM) I...   Mar 7 2014, 07:01 PM
- - rob balsamo   I guess this is what I get for creating a forum se...   Mar 7 2014, 12:27 AM
- - Quest   Rob, forget about "sock puppets". Trolls...   Mar 7 2014, 07:44 AM
- - Quest   QUOTE rob balsamo' date='Mar 7 2014, 05:27...   Mar 7 2014, 07:53 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Quest @ Mar 7 2014, 06:44 AM) Rob,...   Mar 7 2014, 10:49 AM
- - Quest   Just great. JimMac quit the forum. This is what ha...   Mar 7 2014, 03:15 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Quest @ Mar 7 2014, 02:15 PM) Just...   Mar 7 2014, 03:41 PM
- - bill   Well, I haven't been here much lately but, rea...   Mar 9 2014, 07:05 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 9 2014, 07:05 PM) So, R...   Mar 9 2014, 08:43 PM
|- - Tamborine man   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 7 2014, 11:43 PM...   Mar 10 2014, 05:12 AM
||- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Tamborine man @ Mar 10 2014, 05:12...   Mar 10 2014, 08:05 AM
|- - bill   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 9 2014, 07:43 PM...   Mar 10 2014, 09:09 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 10 2014, 09:09 AM) Fran...   Mar 10 2014, 09:21 AM
- - bill   "Again, thousands of flights are airborne dai...   Mar 10 2014, 10:02 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 10 2014, 10:02 AM) here...   Mar 10 2014, 10:06 AM
|- - bill   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 10 2014, 09:06 A...   Mar 10 2014, 10:15 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 10 2014, 10:15 AM) duh....   Mar 10 2014, 10:32 AM
- - bill   Assuming I did go and get the HEPA filters and hav...   Mar 10 2014, 11:12 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 10 2014, 11:12 AM) Base...   Mar 10 2014, 11:19 AM
- - bill   "Bill, I have seen the filters from aircraft. If c...   Mar 10 2014, 12:40 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 10 2014, 12:40 PM) Gee,...   Mar 10 2014, 01:10 PM
|- - bill   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 10 2014, 12:10 P...   Mar 10 2014, 01:41 PM
- - NP1Mike   (I am replying in this thread simply because it is...   Mar 10 2014, 04:29 PM
- - bill   Wow NP a real blast from the past -- another mem...   Mar 10 2014, 06:57 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (bill @ Mar 10 2014, 06:57 PM) Wow ...   Mar 11 2014, 01:49 PM
- - bill   I am going to edit the complete list a bit but the...   Mar 11 2014, 11:35 AM
- - bill   quote from rob Bill, you are a pilot. Are you fam...   Mar 11 2014, 12:00 PM
- - bill   NBC news? Really? laughing1.gif Ho...   Mar 11 2014, 12:08 PM
- - bill   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Mar 10 2014, 12:10 P...   Mar 11 2014, 12:21 PM
- - marklookingup   Well, I guess this is as good a place as any to ma...   Mar 12 2014, 03:31 AM


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