Jet Filmed From Arlington Cemetary 9/11, Possible NOC Jet Options

[Paul]

I found this video on youtube of non speaking, english persons
possibly tourists filming from the arlington cemetary on 9/11,
who seem to be filming some of the Kennedy graves. on of the
headstones first filmed is of Robert Lawrence roberts at 24
seconds into filming the video when you can hear the engines
of a large jet liner but cannot see it, then the sound of the engine
stops, and at 26 seconds we see the grave of Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy
1929 - 1994 followed by the grave of John F Kennedy 1917 - 1963
buried next to his wife and first lady abviously in the Arlington
National Cemetary, funny that i had no idea they where buried
in the Arlington National Cemetary proably because i dont really
care enough, but god bless their souls anyway.

Arlington September 11, 2001 Pentagon Attack (Family Travel)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFD1BXbsJlI...feature=related

Anf then at 1:41 into the tape you hear a loud screaming jet engine and the
camera looks up to film a a medium to large jet flying somewhere over
the edge right near the washington momument maybe halfway between
the washington monument and the camera man i am not sure but i get
the feeling this plane is on the NOC path not the South side approach
to the pentagon actually you can just see the river not sure what it's called
that runs past the pentagon, the plane seems to have some
writing alone the side towards the front looks like the bottom half
underside of the plane is blue, and seems to have some marking writing
on the tail cant see the plane good enough, thats why i need the help
of the experts at this to try and identify the plane itself and tell me
if it is on the NOC path, my estimate is that the plane is about 200ft high
but i am just guessing thats all i can do is guess until someone with better
skill and judgement can tell me.

And then at approximatly 1:57 the jet dissapears and we can see the
grave of Robert F Kennedy 1925 - 1965 and then at 2:22 on the video
we can see smoke rising from the pentagon looks like this was filmed
just after flight 77 alledgedly hit the pentagon.

And i read some of the youtube comments like this one

qantmrckr (2 years ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam If these ppl were at Arlington cemetary videoing a 757 that was flying straight, then this is a different plane than that which hit the Pentagon. They are on the opposite side, and this plane was not in a banking descent. This video is a fake.

Hahah lol every idiot commenting says the video is fake, but also what the
comment says make me hopeful that this is the video that will prove once
and for all the existence of our NOC flyover jet.

I got very excited when i saw this video hoping and still now that this jet
is on the NOC path which would prove that there was a jet on North side
approach to the pentagon on 9/11 and that the NOC witnesses did see
a jet on the NOC path to the pentagon we have the witnesses who place
the jet on the NOC approach to the North side of the pentagon now
all we need is video evidence to corroborate the witnesses accounts
just like this one, and watch the JREFS squirm which would be the
best part, and of course if this is our plane it cannot possibly have caused
the damage to the south side of the pentagon as any person would realise is physically impossible.

I have to ask has anyone here seen this video before, which i hope anyone
has not, and if so why has this video not been mentioned before?

I have never heard anyone on this site, or the Pilotsfor911truth site
mention a single peep about this video in all my many hours scrolling through
both sites so i assume nobody has seen it before, or the video is not that
important as evidence for some stupid reason, and i hope i have not wasted
my time typing this post as with most of my posts.

Cheers thecritta

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[JFK]

That video is really inconclusive as to basically anything because of the editing.

I would like to however see the original unedited footage of the cemetary.

The sound at 1:41 very closely matches the Naudet footage of the first tower impact, It might even have been dubbed in.

[painter]

That plane was much too high to be the attack plane.

In any case we'd need to verify filming date and time. Verify that it hasn't been edited. Verify location, direction, etc. As it is, it is useless.

[paranoia]

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more here: http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?s...t&p=2355092

[tnemelckram]

Hi All!

Paranoia (EDIT TO CORRECT: Calling911posted it) posted this on the CIT Board:

The aircraft in question is an American West 757-2S7 (airline now owned by US AIRWAYS and the aircraft is now wearing US AIRWAYS Paint). It departed KDCA airport on 9/11/01 as follows:

FLIGHT# HP0085
Date: 09/11/2001
A/C :Boeing 757-2S7
REG/License: N903AW
Flight Plan: DCA-LAS
ATD: 08:59
WUT: 09:10

According to the government-released video of the DCA Radar Screen(fn1), a flight denoted as "AWE85" took off at about 9:29 AM. After proceeding a short way (about 2 minutes) northwest along the take off route, at 13:31:20 it veers to the southwest. This is about the same time as the renegade return later labeled LOOK and purported to be AA 77 appears on the screen to coming out of the west and into the screen. Perhaps the difference between the wheel up and other time is that that info is flight plan data while the Radar Video shows what actually happened is a late take off.

Three interesting things about AWE85:

1. It looks like it makes that turn into the path of "AA77", and at 13:33:30 actually takes evasive action by deviating from its path. At that time AWE85's altitude is shown as 10,800 feet.

2. It appears to be the last flight to take off before the ground stop took effect.

3. Although it might just be my imagination, I swear it appears that WORD31 out of ADW is tracking and trying to get into some kind of formation with it..

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(1) If you choose to believe it.

This post has been edited by tnemelckram: Aug 20 2010, 08:25 PM

[onesliceshort]

Sorry, I've been searching the forum and I can't find the "LOOK" video (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Were those readouts based on Traffic controller radar or NEADS? (I'll keep looking in the meantime)

Cheers!

[tnemelckram]

HI One Slice!

As I understand it the readout I referred to is based solely on civilian DCA Radar or controllers and there is no NEADS input.

If you look about four or five pages down in the AA77 or pentagon Forums, you will find a Thread with "LOOK" in the title or subtitle in caps. It has an embedded player. But it only shows about a minute or two before the "impact" and is focused on AA77 so it doesn't show the larger view of AWE85, etc.




mod edit by paranoia - added "LOOK" video and thread:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=15017
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYiDYDasG0M

[onesliceshort]

HI One Slice!

As I understand it the readout I referred to is based solely on civilian DCA Radar or controllers and there is no NEADS input.

If you look about four or five pages down in the AA77 or pentagon Forums, you will find a Thread with "LOOK" in the title or subtitle in caps. It has an embedded player. But it only shows about a minute or two before the "impact" and is focused on AA77 so it doesn't show the larger view of AWE85, etc.

Cheers Mark.

Just asking because of an interesting piece I saw here on the alleged timing of the ceasure of the "9/11 wargames" false reading inputs.
I take this with a pinch of salt but it was interesting to see that they reportedly (and i stress that) first called for their removal a few minutes after 09:30 am - although they reportedly continued until after Flight 93 "went down".

Could be a much simpler way to forge the readings unbeknownst to air traffic controllers, ya know?

Speculation but an avenue worth exploring IMO.

Peace

OSS

[tnemelckram]

Hi Oneslice!

Could be a much simpler way to forge the readings unbeknownst to air traffic controllers, ya know? Speculation but an avenue worth exploring IMO.

Yep, I agree. What you say is one reason why after much debate, I came to agree with Craig that all of the government data, including this civilian Radar data and playbacks, have to be regarded with suspicion.

When you look at the welter of activity recorded in the radar data, it becomes obvious that very little of it would have to be altered, and only in subtle ways, to produce the desired appearance. EDIT TO ADD: All that really had to be altered was whatever is necessary to hide what "AA77" actually did approaching, at and/or departing the Pentagon. 2ND EDIT TO ADD: Although I said "as I understand it" the civil radar has no NEADS input, that's in my strictly amateur opinion after review, which of course leaves wide open the possibility that there very well could have been such corrupting inputs.

This post has been edited by tnemelckram: Aug 26 2010, 07:57 PM

[onesliceshort]

It totally limits the personnel and extent of the fraud necessary.
Just an opinion but it would explain a lot.