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What Hit The Pentagon?

Tashi
post Sep 14 2008, 11:16 PM
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After seeing Rob's new video which to me proves beyond a shadow of a doubt flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon; what did hit the pentagon? I know Pilots for truth don't offer theory, but obviously some jet like object hit it. Question is; are there any other witnesses that report seeing a cruse missile or some smaller jet on the other side of the gas Station approximately the same time? It appears in the Pentagon five frames the object had a stabilizer. Has it occurred to anyone perhaps the pentagon footage is tampered with? Also, I'm not a crash investigator but it would seem to me that a 757, cruse missile or small jet, traveling at 535 mph would slice through the lamp poles rather than pulling them up, or knocking them over. Sorry, if these questions have been asked before.

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post Sep 14 2008, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Tashi @ Sep 15 2008, 03:16 PM) *
After seeing Rob's new video which to me proves beyond a shadow of a doubt flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon; what did hit the pentagon? I know Pilots for truth don't offer theory, but obviously some jet like object hit it. Question is; are there any other witnesses that report seeing a cruse missile or some smaller jet on the other side of the gas Station approximately the same time? It appears in the Pentagon five frames the object had a stabilizer. Has it occurred to anyone perhaps the pentagon footage is tampered with? Also, I'm not a crash investigator but it would seem to me that a 757, cruse missile or small jet, traveling at 535 mph would slice through the lamp poles rather than pulling them up, or knocking them over. Sorry, if these questions have been asked before.

Tashi


Where is your evidence that anything hit the Pentagon?
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post Sep 15 2008, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (Tashi @ Sep 14 2008, 08:16 PM) *
. . . but obviously some jet like object hit it. . . .


Ain't obvious to me.
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post Sep 15 2008, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE (KP50 @ Sep 14 2008, 09:56 PM) *
Where is your evidence that anything hit the Pentagon?


Yes you guys are right! I just watched both videos on Pentacon com. Nothing hit the Pentagon! Sorry! It seems I need to spend some time here reading up on all the forums.

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post Sep 15 2008, 04:23 AM
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QUOTE (Tashi @ Sep 15 2008, 08:17 AM) *
Yes you guys are right! I just watched both videos on Pentacon com. Nothing hit the Pentagon! Sorry! It seems I need to spend some time here reading up on all the forums.

Tashi


Well, now we are speculating, clocks and watches in the "Impact area" stand still a few minutes before official impact time of (?)
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post Sep 15 2008, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE (Tashi @ Sep 15 2008, 06:17 PM) *
Yes you guys are right! I just watched both videos on Pentacon com. Nothing hit the Pentagon! Sorry! It seems I need to spend some time here reading up on all the forums.

Tashi

The Pentagon is a mass of contradictions and anomalies - have fun!
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post Sep 15 2008, 03:25 PM
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Judging from the parking lot video at the Pentagon, the last few frames of which were released just 2 years ago, it looks like some flying object was present. Whatever it was, it certainly WAS NOT a Boeing 757.

Someone here advanced the theory that it might have been an old Navy A-3, which profile does seem to resemble that in the video.

And I thought I read somewhere here that there had been rumors of one of those old A-3s having been refurbished by some civilian shop in Colorado?

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post Sep 15 2008, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (amazed! @ Sep 15 2008, 01:25 PM) *
Someone here advanced the theory that it might have been an old Navy A-3, which profile does seem to resemble that in the video.

And I thought I read somewhere here that there had been rumors of one of those old A-3s having been refurbished by some civilian shop in Colorado?

I believe those A3s were assimilated into the Raytheon/eSystems collective "fleet" in one of those corporate MIIC shenanigans (I nearly resembled that description myself a couple of times ohmy.gif ) amazed.

If I were to speculate what "hit", I'd head over to SPreston's great post #23 in the identical thread at:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10740416

Or else maybe something like my post #2 at:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10749533
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[OF, would you mind if we moved that thread of yours from North Tower to WTC section for visibility? Or did I derail it?]

EDIT: Anyone want to guess what didn't hit Lloyd's cab?
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10744501
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post Sep 15 2008, 05:48 PM
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I moved it and pinned it, dMole.
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post Nov 15 2008, 09:06 PM
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Explosives (Planted under the cover of renovation) were detonated, along with airplane fuel tanks that stood nearby, to create a massive amount of fiery smoke. This explosion was timed with the overflight of a large, remotely controlled military drone. That's what fits the evidence best.

Eyewitness accounts prove that the plane flew on the North Side, making it impossible for it to cause the damage seen (Meaning it could not have impacted the building). So, there was a plane, but it didn't cause the damage? The account of Robert Turcios solves this. Turcios saw the plane 'pull up' before the explosion. This makes it even more impossible for it to have caused the damage, considering that 'pulling up' would have caused damage to the upper floors. We are left with the last reasonable conclusion: The plane flew on the North Side and pulled up, while bombs went off inside, masking it as it flew over the building.
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post Nov 16 2008, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (Lord Tsukasa @ Nov 15 2008, 05:06 PM) *
Explosives (Planted under the cover of renovation) were detonated, along with airplane fuel tanks that stood nearby, to create a massive amount of fiery smoke. This explosion was timed with the overflight of a large, remotely controlled military drone. That's what fits the evidence best.

Eyewitness accounts prove that the plane flew on the North Side, making it impossible for it to cause the damage seen (Meaning it could not have impacted the building). So, there was a plane, but it didn't cause the damage? The account of Robert Turcios solves this. Turcios saw the plane 'pull up' before the explosion. This makes it even more impossible for it to have caused the damage, considering that 'pulling up' would have caused damage to the upper floors. We are left with the last reasonable conclusion: The plane flew on the North Side and pulled up, while bombs went off inside, masking it as it flew over the building.


And most everyone didn't see the plane fly away
because they were distracted by
those explosions at the pentagon.
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post Nov 17 2008, 06:28 PM
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America West Airlines had the last aircraft land at Ronald Reagan National DCI. across from the Pentagon on 9/11/01. The tail # was N644AW.


Detailed Statistics
Arrivals

Airport: Washington DC - Ronald Reagan Washington National (DCA)
Airline: America West Airlines (HP)
Month(s): September
Day(s): 11
Year(s): 2001
NOTE: A complete listing of airline and airport abbreviations is available. Times are reported in local time using a 24 hour clock.

Carrier Code Date (MM/DD/YYYY) Flight Number Tail Number Origin Airport Actual Departure Time Wheels-on Time
HP 9/11/2001 42 N647AW PHX 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 46 N815AW PHX 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 49 N907AW LAS 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 90 N810AW CMH 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 98 N644AW CMH 9:39 9:35

SOURCE: Bureau of Transportation Statistics

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post Dec 9 2008, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE (Ricochet @ Nov 18 2008, 08:28 AM) *
America West Airlines had the last aircraft land at Ronald Reagan National DCI. across from the Pentagon on 9/11/01. The tail # was N644AW.


Detailed Statistics
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Airport: Washington DC - Ronald Reagan Washington National (DCA)
Airline: America West Airlines (HP)
Month(s): September
Day(s): 11
Year(s): 2001
NOTE: A complete listing of airline and airport abbreviations is available. Times are reported in local time using a 24 hour clock.

Carrier Code Date (MM/DD/YYYY) Flight Number Tail Number Origin Airport Actual Departure Time Wheels-on Time
HP 9/11/2001 42 N647AW PHX 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 46 N815AW PHX 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 49 N907AW LAS 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 90 N810AW CMH 0:00 0:00
HP 9/11/2001 98 N644AW CMH 9:39 9:35

SOURCE: Bureau of Transportation Statistics


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post Dec 12 2008, 03:53 PM
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Just to keep in mind: The crashed flight AA 77 got the tail # N644AA blink.gif
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post Dec 12 2008, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (Destinova @ Dec 12 2008, 11:53 AM) *
Just to keep in mind: The crashed flight AA 77 got the tail # N644AA blink.gif

That was my point. To casual observer the mistake could easily be made. In a hit and run is a witness always positive they saw the correct license plate # ? A digit off by one is an easy mistake to make. They closed DCI at 09:35.
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post Dec 12 2008, 09:31 PM
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DCA is Reagan National Airport. Although I've suspected his involvement for years, DCI would be Director of Central Intelligence (CIA), Rico. wink.gif
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post Dec 13 2008, 05:56 AM
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For the people that don't know why we're so upset about that landing:

You have to remember, if there was an explosion and lots of smoke on the other side of the building, no one would notice a plane landing at a runway that is no more than 10 seconds flight time from the loaction of the impact.

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post Dec 13 2008, 06:09 AM
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This post from another forum is very nice about that tail #

*** Some screenshots from the BTS database:

departure time from CHM (Port Columbus International) is 8:28:



arrival time at DCA (Reagan airport) is 9:39:



The scheduled elapsed time is 65 minutes:



Nb, there are two planes listed (departing from CHM on 9/11) with the same tail number (N644AW). The second one (the same plane of course) has a scheduled departure time of 13:59.

Guess who the owner is?



"Wilmington Trust Company Trustee"

Yes, it's the same owner as AA77. Btw, it's an airbus A320, not a 757. ***

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post Dec 13 2008, 06:38 AM
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You also might want to look at posts 70-81 on the FAA thread- there were several Boeings landing at DCA according to the FAA spreadsheet allegedly released under FOIA.

New Aa77 Animation Released By Faa Supports North Side
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10754203

EDIT: From post #73 on the above thread, so we don't forget this American Airlines possibility either:

"That rather non-descript "AAL568" "Other" DCA arrival at 10:13 EDT would be my wager for "AA77" BTW..."

One of them showed to be a UAL93 at about 10:28 EDT- I'll need to edit that link in later.

See post 73 onward at:

Shanksville Coroner Wally Miller
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10754562

Amt133 "b752", from MDW to DCA on 9/11/2001 [I'd prefer to keep the 09:43 EDT Boeing 757-200 discussion here to not further muddy the other threads]
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=14981
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I would draw your attention to this topic at the prisonplanet forum I believe we have all the answers for you there. It was a green airplane and a missile

The GREEN AIRPLANE that first struck the Pentagon on 9/11 was not any American Airlines jet!
Just the beginning

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...9712#msg1199712
Green American Airlines polished aluminum airplnes?




















Sorry only room for ten pice see the whole thread

Since American Airlines owns no "silvery painted green airplanes" none of the items above came from any American Airlines aircraft.
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...9157#msg1199157

What happened with the victims is another story
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...1427#msg1201427

The Latest Judicial Watch Videos analysis
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?to...6351#msg1206351

But you should find the entire latest 3 pages of this thread most illuminating -read the latest 5 if you can!

Contributions would be appreciated
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