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Help On Hani Hanjour Article!, Help recreating the last 78 minutes of Hani Hanjour

CactusLand
post Jan 21 2014, 04:36 AM
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Hi,

I am a blogger and novelist, and have been published in Lew Rockwell, Inforwars and Pravda among others. I am currently working on a piece that specifically deals with how Hani Hanjour performed his final maneuver into the Pentagon. I want the piece to specifically cover the time from which flight 77 goes wheels up, 8.20AM until the final impact at 9.37Am. Interspersed with this will be flashbacks to his aviation training in order to compare what his skills were and what he supposedly accomplished.

I want to make clear that I am not entering this with an agenda, I am an agnostic on this topic, but want to dig into it and write something that will clear up some things with me, and hopefully for others.

Some of the things I am interested in really understanding are:

According to the NTSB report, the autopilot was turned on and off several times, but the final maneuver was performed without the autopilot. How difficult would it be to learn how to use the autopilot? Since he had never been on a 757 simulator, could he have learned it from text books, etc? He had been on a 737 simulator, is there much difference in using the two, or are they basically the same?

Since he did fly the final portion of flight, the big question I have is, if by all accounts he was not a good pilot, and had never flown a jet before, could he have practiced this on some kind of computer program? Maybe he just practiced this final part over and over and was able to perform it correctly, in spite of the difficulty?

The final approach, at a very low altitude and high speed (460 knots) apparently is beyond the VMO, how would this effect his ability to reach the Pentagon at that low an altitude?

Finally, what would the feeling be like when he turned off the auto pilot and took the controls, if he had never flown a jet before? What would be an apt comparison?

I know some will say this has been gone over too much, but I don't believe that there is an article written yet for the layman, and written well, that goes over this in detail. I want to stick the facts, and let the reader make his conclusions. I realize this will be a long article, in the 10,000 word range, long form, so I am willing to go into a lot of detail.

Ideally, I would like to be able to interview, by email, chat or Skype, a pilot with extensive experience flying a 757 and someone very familiar with Hani Hanjour's training. I understand this is asking quite a lot, but I feel that with the right sources, I can write an important piece that could help clarify, at least somewhat, this still very confusing episode.

Since this is a forum, maybe it would be better to just ask the questions here and create a discussion. I will not need names, I will just refer to pilots experienced with the 757.

I want to write a good piece on something that has been gnawing at me for a long time, and keep focused just on this episode. I don't know much about planes or flying, but am very willing to spend months on this, as I did on my financial articles, to really create something worthwhile. I should stress that it has not been easy finding a pilot, at least so far, willing to cooperate.

You can see more about me on my blog, The Cactus Land http://www.thecactusland.com/

Thanks very much for you help.

Best,

Robert
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onesliceshort
post Feb 3 2014, 10:31 PM
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My own 2cents...

"Hani" would have had this kind of view on the final approach (having allegedly lined up perfectly after pulling out of this spiral that witnesses contradict)



When he was supposedly 250+ft ASL, he had to drop in to the Pentagon basin at cruise speed and pull up missing solid objects, including the ground, pulling gs.

What a guy.
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post Feb 4 2014, 12:55 AM
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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Feb 3 2014, 09:31 PM) *
My own 2cents...

"Hani" would have had this kind of view on the final approach (having allegedly lined up perfectly after pulling out of this spiral that witnesses contradict)



When he was supposedly 250+ft ASL, he had to drop in to the Pentagon basin at cruise speed and pull up missing solid objects, including the ground, pulling gs.

What a guy.



I hope all the pilots in my future flights are as skillful as Hani my hero!
Then I'll know I am in safe hands. smile.gif

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- CactusLand   Help On Hani Hanjour Article!   Jan 21 2014, 04:36 AM
- - MK58Pilot   QUOTE (CactusLand @ Jan 21 2014, 09:36 AM...   Jan 21 2014, 09:19 AM
|- - kawika   QUOTE (MK58Pilot @ Jan 21 2014, 08:19 AM)...   Jan 21 2014, 12:03 PM
|- - CactusLand   [quote name='kawika' date='Jan 21 2014...   Jan 22 2014, 08:19 AM
- - paranoia   notes on some of hani's official level of flyi...   Jan 21 2014, 04:16 PM
|- - CactusLand   QUOTE (paranoia @ Jan 21 2014, 03:16 PM) ...   Jan 22 2014, 08:14 AM
|- - CactusLand   QUOTE (paranoia @ Jan 21 2014, 03:16 PM) ...   Jan 22 2014, 10:47 AM
|- - NP1Mike   With all due respect Cactus, it would behoove you ...   Jan 22 2014, 05:37 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Jan 22 2014, 04:37 PM) W...   Jan 23 2014, 01:25 AM
|- - CactusLand   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jan 23 2014, 12:25 A...   Jan 23 2014, 07:54 AM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (CactusLand @ Jan 23 2014, 06:54 AM...   Jan 23 2014, 07:10 PM
|- - CactusLand   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Jan 23 2014, 06:10 PM) R...   Jan 24 2014, 07:18 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (CactusLand @ Jan 24 2014, 06:18 AM...   Jan 24 2014, 01:48 PM
||- - CactusLand   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jan 24 2014, 12:48 P...   Jan 25 2014, 10:37 AM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (CactusLand @ Jan 24 2014, 06:18 AM...   Jan 24 2014, 06:03 PM
|- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Jan 24 2014, 05:03 PM) H...   Jan 24 2014, 08:30 PM
|- - CactusLand   QUOTE (NP1Mike @ Jan 24 2014, 07:30 PM) A...   Jan 25 2014, 10:49 AM
- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (CactusLand @ Jan 21 2014, 03:36 AM...   Jan 21 2014, 07:08 PM
- - justaskin   QUOTE (CactusLand @ Jan 21 2014, 02:36 AM...   Jan 22 2014, 02:19 AM
- - CactusLand   Below is a review of Hanjour's training, types...   Jan 22 2014, 08:47 AM
- - amazed!   Robert The entire Official Conspiracy Theory adva...   Jan 28 2014, 02:53 PM
- - onesliceshort   Not being a pilot I found two articles that were h...   Feb 3 2014, 10:14 PM
- - onesliceshort   Number 2 QUOTE http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_...   Feb 3 2014, 10:17 PM
- - onesliceshort   My own 2cents... "Hani" would have had ...   Feb 3 2014, 10:31 PM
- - NP1Mike   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Feb 3 2014, 09:31 ...   Feb 4 2014, 12:55 AM


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