Gas/petrochemical Blackouts To Continue Through At Least October, And so it begins! Options

[George Hayduke]

Where is our gasoline and diesel supply headed? Even before Ike hit, quite a few areas of the US were starting to see gasoline shortages. The impact of Ike can only make shortages worse. Most likely, it will take refineries at least a week or two to get production back to normal levels after a storm of this type, considering the impacts of electrical outages and flooding. In this article, I will examine some of the issues that seem to be involved. Based on my analysis, fuel supply shortages are likely to last well into October, and are likely to get considerably worse before they get better.

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http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4526

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[George Hayduke]

WASHINGTON, Sept 14 (Reuters) - Texas oil refineries disabled by the massive Hurricane Ike could remain idled for up to nine days and Americans should brace for possible gas shortages, U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison said on Sunday.

'We are looking at another week or eight or nine days before refineries are up and going, so refined gasoline is going to be in a shortage situation because of the power outages and flooding,' the Texas senator said on CBS (NYSE: RBV - news) ' 'Face the Nation.'

'It is going to be felt for the next week, that we have gasoline shortages, so people need to be prepared for that.'

Hutchison said she had received a briefing on Ike's aftermath from officials from the Federal Emergency Management Agency who told her that 40,000 evacuees were spread across Texas and some 2 million people were without electricity.

Ike, a sprawling hurricane estimated to have caused billions of dollars of damage, forced a shutdown of a quarter of U.S. crude oil production as it passed over the heart of the U.S. energy industry.

The biggest disruption in U.S. energy supplies in three years saw work halted at 15 Texas oil refineries as a precaution ahead of the storm.

http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/14092008/323/updat...ys-senator.html

[dMz]

I hope that Albert is OK down Houston way.

GH- do you think Ike's gonna get uppity again when it hits the Great Lakes? I just heard that it fukkered up Cincinnati pretty good too.

Knowing the future ain't all it's cracked up to be is it GH?

[George Hayduke]

That would be incredible if Ike were to reboot over the Great Lakes. Is it without historical precedent?

Yeah, man, they say prophecy is written to prevent that which is predicted from being realized. It's harrowing to know what's coming and to not be able to do much about it, as you surely know.

[dMz]

That would be incredible if Ike were to reboot over the Great Lakes. Is it without historical precedent?

Might get all Edmund Fitzgerald IMO. Maybe we should ask Putin or Faal huh? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

EDIT: How far away from Lake Ontario are NYC and Boston again? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[George Hayduke]

Ex-oil chief calls for gas rationing

One of the oil industry's most influential voices called Monday for a temporary 1970s-style rationing of gasoline in parts of the United States to help avoid hurricane-related shortages and declared that the Bush administration, the Congress and the two men running for president have failed to exhibit the courage needed to solve America's longer-term energy problems.

"We need to get a Congress that is willing to make some courageous decisions, and we need to have a president willing to make courageous decisions with respect to energy supply," former Shell Oil Co. President John Hofmeister told editors and reporters at The Washington Times.

Mr. Hofmeister, who now serves as chairman of the National Urban League, also said that America's current economic crisis is disproportionately hurting middle- and lower-income families.

"The economy is actually quite weak for middle- and low-income folks because of the drain on their disposable income" resulting from soaring energy, food and health care costs, he said. "America is suffering a lot more than is being reported."

Mr. Hofmeister laid blame squarely on the country's political leaders, saying President Bush unnecessarily waited 7 1/2 years as gas prices soared to lift a presidential moratorium on offshore drilling and that Congress has made only token gestures to solve an energy crisis that requires significant action.

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/sep/16/...-gas-rationing/

[bill]

I talked to my boss today

he live south of Houston by Sugarland

He has been without power since saturday night

they are telling people it is going to probably weeks before the power is back on

he has a generator and is living in his camper trailer

20% ofthe refineing capacity has been compromised by Ike

Talk at you guys later I'm off to the gas station

[dMz]

Did you see this non-linearly related fun little thread GH? (You were specifically requested by name).

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=13919

You gave me a good scare when you were scarce a while back- me reading about Montauk and delta-T antennas and such at the time. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[George Hayduke]

NEW YORK -- With an estimated 20 percent of the nation’s refinery capacity on hold due to Hurricane Ike, retailers located in the Southeast and Mid-Atlantic regions not affiliated with major gas bands are experiencing gas shortages.

A number of c-store chains with unbranded fuel, including Altoona, Pa.-based Sheetz Inc., are refusing to pay inflated wholesale prices that are in some cases $1 higher than those charged to branded affiliates, reported USA Today. "It’s an unfounded price point [oil companies] were putting on it," executive vice president of marketing, Louie Sheetz, told the paper. "They said, ‘How bad do you want it?’ I said, ‘Not that bad.’"

Michael Fields, head of the South Carolina Petroleum Marketers Association, told USA Today while premium gasoline is especially scarce, most stations are having trouble supplying regular gas.

Nearly half of Mapco’s 500 stations in the Southeast had no gasoline after Ike hit, company spokeswoman, Paula Lovell, told the paper. She noted slight supply increases were realized on Wednesday.

In Virginia, roughly 15 percent of stations are without gas, Mike O’Connor, head of the state Petroleum, Convenience and Grocery Association, told USA Today. "People are going to Maryland, Pennsylvania and all the border states to pick up product," O’Connor told the paper.

http://www.csnews.com/csn/news/article_dis...52417&imw=Y

[George Hayduke]

(9.24.08) Officially Greenville, S.C., Atlanta and Nashville are all making national headlines for spot shortages. Also reporting shortages, but not making the bigtime MSM news is Chicago (hush hush), parts of North Carolina (http://www.wwaytv3.com/school_closes_amid_western_nc_gas_shortage/09/2008), other parts of S.C. (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/breaking_news/story/606780.html) other parts of Tennessee (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20080913/NEWS/309139981) and parts of Kentucky (http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=9053674).

This post has been edited by George Hayduke: Sep 24 2008, 04:20 PM

[Rickysa]

I can vouch for NC (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbdown.gif)

[keroseneaddict]

It amazes me (it shouldn't at this point) that the USG, including the democrat controlled Congress, cannot anticipate, plan and prevent anything.......Everything is a reaction.......let's make sure NO ONE is reelected to anything!!!!!!

[George Hayduke]

Dude, it is creepy stuff. Here, in TN, there is NO GAS!

Yeah, KA, I read in Jerod Diamond's book "Collapse, How Societies Fail to Choose to Survive" that he was told that the so-called POTUS and junta were dealing proactively to disasters only 90 days out. Diamond says that the junta wanted only to deal with those disasters that were 90 days away. Anything beyond this timeframe, he said, they treat as if it didn't exist! You can guess why. So many potential and approaching disasters, only so much manpower and dough.

This post has been edited by George Hayduke: Sep 24 2008, 04:44 PM

[George Hayduke]

More shortages predicted for the future.

NEW YORK (Fortune) -- While Congress and Bush administration officials have been working to complete a bailout plan and stem the financial contagion on Wall Street, a different kind of economic crisis emerged across the South this week: A severe, hurricane-related gasoline shortage has curtailed trucking from Atlanta to Asheville, N.C., and created a wave of panic buying among motorists.

The return of gas lines has largely flown under the radar of politicians who are usually keenly attuned, because their constituents are, to what's going on at the pump. But more of the Capitol gang should be paying attention to this.

That's because nationwide our gasoline inventory is shockingly low. Liquidity must be restored soon to this market, or we could be facing a crippling run on the gasoline bank. And if you think Americans are outraged about Wall Street, wait until their Main Street grocery store doesn't get the bread and milk delivery for a week or two.

Back to the '70s

The scenes over the past several days in places like Nashville, Tenn., Anniston, Ala., and western North Carolina looked like file footage from 1979 - with bags over empty gas pumps and quarter-mile long lines of cars waiting to fill up at stations that hadn't run out. AAA reported that drivers were so desperate that they were following tankers to gas stations to ensure a fill-up.

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http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/26/news/econo...sion=2008092613