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[Sanders]

Hey Woolfie (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

Thanks for your interest, thanks for your comment here -

Setting up this Library wore me out to be honest. There are some holes I know, and I've been lax in keeping it up to date. I had a great helper, Tarya, but she's dissapeared (we miss her). Actually, I would love to find someone who has done some research and knows what's up and what's down with regard to 9/11 etc., and would be interested in helping maintain this. Lately I have been, as you noticed, busy.

Finally, to answer your question, the missing 2 trillion is an interesting side-topic. Where would it go? DoD ?? I guess. If you can dig up a good link or two about the money, I'll duly put them in here. (Maybe I'll even write something up regarding "open complicity" and how it might relate to Rumsfeld's announcement??)

How's that?

[Woolfie]

Its a deal (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Woolfie]

Sorry Sanders but Ive another Q....Is there anywhere in here that gives links to the NYFD radio transmissions on 9 11?

I remember hearing that a fireman witnessed the attack on the second WTC and said it was a green plane that hit (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Thanks again (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

[Sanders]

No, nothing in here about that (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

BTW, the initial idea for this place wasn't so much that one guy was gonna fill it, but that people would contribute. I am SO pleased that you've taken an interest and posted these things here. If you see a hole (like the FDNY radio transmissions), do a little googling until you find something good about it, and post a link for us here, and I or someone will duly put it in the appropriate topic.

Thanks so much again for your interest !

[Woolfie]

Hi Sanders well Im on a right mission now and being a right female with it (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Ive got the radio transmission link (and now for the annoying part) it had no timer but its before it gets half way and over the quarter mark (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

I am totally astounded as not only did I hear that it was a green plane, the fireman also described it as a bomber style plane (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Oops nearly forgot....Im sure the firemen who work for NY are not colour blind.....that would be like a medical failure (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/yes1.gif)
Ignore 1st link found a better one below (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/doh1.gif)
http://ia300104.us.archive.org/1/items/911...ttan01_64kb.mp3

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4797889

Oh its about the second tower that was hit (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

http://www.wnyc.org/news/articles/50527

No mention that marine 6 seen a green bomber style plane in this transcript....

http://www.fdnewyork.com/transcript.asp

Its okay please ignore me for now....Im collecting (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Marine 6....

http://www.minnesotafireservice.com/rememb...1saygoodby.html

This post has been edited by Woolfie: Oct 24 2007, 11:53 PM

[Woolfie]

Ive done a fair bit of trawling around on this and to my amazement it is brushed under the carpet....

TAPE: Marine 6 to Manhattan. That plane was a large bomber style green aircraft into the second tower. Be advised.

The plane was United Airlines flight 175. But in the chaos, few firefighters could be sure of WHAT they were seeing. As the South Tower burst into flames more units were sent into Lower Manhattan. Meanwhile, EMS dispatchers were still dealing with the rest of New York City.

I know there was witnesses who seen this "military" aircraft....surely a fireman would be seen as an upstanding one Grrr!!!

[thirdwaver]

This perhaps in the "Why?" topic?

It seems to me that people have been positing that Bush & Co's motive for being behind this would be to start the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. As I was watching 9/11 Mysteries, I noted that Bush's brother was in charge of security at the WTC prior to 9/11. Isn't it possible that the controlled detonation was performed by terrorists (vs. US Govt) and they did so by slipping past Bush's brother disguising it as repair work? If that was the case, the Bush administration's resistance to investigate anything but their lame pancake theory would be to cover up incompetence that would have disgraced the Bush family and ruined them. The stakes would be pretty high, no?

I'd also love to find out more information about the power outage, the contractor work going on the weeks prior to 9/11, etc. It seems like, if it were a controlled demolition, they would need to time it close to when the planes hit. Perhaps the hijackers screwed up and hit the wrong building first because the 2nd bldg to get hit was the first to come down, yes?

And how come no one has really interviewed demolition experts who can discuss the footage? I haven't seen one interview yet. Did I miss it somewhere?

Sean

[Sanders]

Thanks for you interest, and welcome to the form, thirdwaver.

I'd suggest you try and let go of the notion that "terrorists" did 9/11, all the evidence will fit together much more readily. 2 cents (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Don't know whether or not anyone's been able to do a face to face with any US demolition exerts, but there's a Dutch demolition expert, Danny Jowenko, that has stated unequivicably that WTC7 was a controlled demolition - maybe others know more about that. (?)

Cheers

PS, list of Engineers and Architects who question the official story:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html

[jo56]

Hi Sanders,

Have you seen this website about JFK Assassination?
http://www.aarclibrary.org/index.htm
http://www.aarclibrary.org/whatsnewarchive.htm

Some quite interesting articles from old newspapers and legal docs.

Look to the right of that page for this info:

What is Bush Sr.'s relationship to the assassination story? For more info:
FBI--Bush Called About JFK Killing
Affidavit of George William Bush
Joseph McBride article: George Bush, CIA Operative
Memo: Messrs. George Bush and Thomas J. Devine

FYI

This post has been edited by jo56: Dec 20 2007, 02:40 PM

[Cheri]

To the Guest Librarian....

Under the PNAC topic it is imperative to connect the dots of:

Which PNAC members, statement signers and/or founders were members of the Bush cabinet or put into positions of power under his administration?

examples:

John Bolton: worked as the interim Permanent US Representative to the UN from August 2005 until December 2006 on a recess appointment, and resigned in December 2006 when his recess appointment would have ended.

Paul Wolfowitz: former U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense, and President of the World Bank.

Zalmay Khalilzad: was the permanent United States Ambassador to the United Nations under President George W Bush. Previous assignments in the Administration include U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq.

Elliot Abrams: National Security Council (2001-2009)

and so many others...


Additionally, as equally important is mentioning the PNAC members, statement signers and/or founders who were members of the White House Iraq Group (WHIG)and the Iraq Study Group (ISG)? The group(s) that marketed the Iraq war to the American people.

examples:

I. Lewis Libby

Edwin Meese III

and others...



Here is a good link to PNAC members, statement signers and/or founders and what they signed on to: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/charts/pnac-chart.htm


PNAC Participants

* A Complete List of PNAC Signatories and Contributing Writers (1997-2005)
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pnac_chart/pnac.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from the Reagan Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from the George H.W. Bush Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from in the Clinton Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html

* PNAC Contributors and Signatories from the George W. Bush Administration
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/pna...nistration.html

This post has been edited by Cheri: Mar 1 2009, 08:44 PM

[Sanders]

Thanks Cheri -

In all honesty, I don't have the time or the energy to keep the Library current anymore, it was created a while back and moved here intact when the forum moved. If you'd like to put together a post that presents all of that info succinctly I'd be happy to add a prominent link to it in that topic.
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[Cheri]

Thanks Cheri -

In all honesty, I don't have the time or the energy to keep the Library current anymore, it was created a while back and moved here intact when the forum moved. If you'd like to put together a post that presents all of that info succinctly I'd be happy to add a prominent link to it in that topic.
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Ok will do. PNAC is my specialty (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

also, you may consider putting my Operation of False Flags as well as the Terrorist DNA article in the appropriate categories in here.

You have done a great job. I am willing to help in here at anytime if needed.

[Sanders]

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[Ricochet]

and you wonder why we have a hard time trying to educate people on 9/11.
http://www.wimp.com/badamericans

[Sanders]

and you wonder why we have a hard time trying to educate people on 9/11.
http://www.wimp.com/badamericans

That's just depressing (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Cheri]

and you wonder why we have a hard time trying to educate people on 9/11.
http://www.wimp.com/badamericans

sad and disgusting at the same time...sigh

[dMz]

And how come no one has really interviewed demolition experts who can discuss the footage? I haven't seen one interview yet. Did I miss it somewhere?

Sean

Danny Jowenko

Jowenko WTC7 Demolition Interviews, 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3DRhwRN06I

Jowenko WTC7 Demolition Interviews, 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sep-HDZoEBM...feature=related

Jowenko WTC7 Demolition Interviews, 3 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boNzLZInbjU...feature=related
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Also a short clip at Google video (probably the same as above):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7778438571360742389

[painter]

That's just depressing (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Ugg. Well, if it is depressing, I'm not going to click on the link as I'm depressed enough as it is. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/weep.gif)

[Cheri]

Ugg. Well, if it is depressing, I'm not going to click on the link as I'm depressed enough as it is. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/weep.gif)

awwwww now that's a cute smilie...u ok Painter? Wassamatter?

[painter]

awwwww now that's a cute smilie...u ok Painter? Wassamatter?

I'm ok. Just suffering from too much time online. I'm 62 years old. My body is literally atrophying due to spending too much time online. I'm not joking. I'm nearly out of money and have a very limited income right now. Things are getting weirder on that front as you know, too. I'll probably pull some kind of rabbit out of a hat -- I almost always do -- but it is getting close. (Do you have a 'pull a rabbit out of a hat' smiley? That would be cool.) I'm in a weird psychological state. Not all bad but strange. Difficult to talk about. Last night I had a full on panic attack -- something I seldom do. I stopped smoking cigarettes in November but fell off the wagon and bought a pack yesterday to try and calm myself down. I don't worry about that -- I know I can and will quit -- can't afford them for one thing. But that is taking a toll on my physical health as well. I've been trying to get back to my art. Very difficult. Crazy, crazy time. Thanks for asking.