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Lloyde England & His Taxi Cab- The Eye Of The Storm, now released

Craig Ranke CIT
post Oct 29 2008, 05:09 PM
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Get ready for an intense and surreal journey with Lloyde the cab driver while he is confronted by CIT with the north side evidence.

Watch and listen to his reaction with input from his FBI employee wife who he married after 9/11 but was seeing at the time.

See exclusive footage and images of the actual cab as it is today preserved on his 30 acres of property in the woods of Virginia.

Be prepared for an extremely engaging yet disturbing experience.

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post Jun 23 2011, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (Obwon)
That's what I find so disquieting about taking a view that he's lying. It seems more like
he's as curious in figuring out what happened as the investigators are. If so, that
would suggest that even he doesn't believe his own story, but how can that be?
If he's confused, and doesn't find any answers forthcoming, or even suggestions
to look further into, his best bet, for his own sanity, is to stick to the story he
knows.


Thing is, he has changed his story and continues to change it depending on who is asking the questions.

When interviewed by MSM in 2005/6, he went along with the OCT to the letter, pointing to the lightpoles on the bridge:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1julr_ll...and-on-nbc_news

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2276/lloydpointing.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5774/lloydpointing1.png

GE reference for perspective:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2189/ll...iewpovsmall.jpg

Then the NOC testimony came to light and he was independently interviewed:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...91830986329305#

He denied being on the bridge. That he was on "solid ground"

Then in "The Eye of the Storm":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC3LRdjocmc

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1378/lloydheliport.png

Pointing to where he claims he was:

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7645/lloydpointingpov.jpg

Then he was called by Jeff "Shure" Hill and he stuck to the same story. That he was NOC but started casting aspertions on the intentions of Craig (due to some leading by Hill because he knew this was going to backfire).

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England: You know what? I know where the cab was and I know where they wanted it to be, but I can prove where the car was.
There's a permanent picture of the fire and the Pentagon...my cab is the only cab in the world involved in 9/11...and I now where the car was. And they are trying to put the car somewhere else, for what reason, I don't know because they weren't there.

Hill : So they were trying to use some sort of distorted picture..(rolleyes.gif)

England: The pictures were made to be in one place when I was somewhere else....my car is not there at the bridge at Columbia Pike. They got it wrong, and I don't know why they have it wrong.


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Hill: when I saw them question you about the picture, that's where I got the impression that they weren't being honest and had an agenda or something


CIT were 100% upfront and actually pressing Lloyd to admit that his cab was on the bridge!
Here are the images he was shown:

http://img827.imageshack.us/i/lloydpictures.png

He wasn't "hypnotized". He has had to adapt at every turn.

IMHO, Lloyd was involved in a situation that snowballed and which the perps took full advantage of. It could have been something as innocent as a "Walter Mitty" scenario in which he gained financially and where the perps blackmailed him or simply let him dig his own grave (as long as it never reached MSM - which they know it never will). Human nature and taking full advantage of a situation (blackmail and coercion) seem more at play here to me. 2 cents.

Either way, the guy is consciously lying. And he's calm and comfortable doing it. That bugs the shit out of me more than anything.

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post Jun 24 2011, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Jun 23 2011, 04:12 PM) *
Thing is, he has changed his story and continues to change it depending on who is asking the questions.

<snips>

Either way, the guy is consciously lying. And he's calm and comfortable doing it. That bugs the shit out of me more than anything.


No... no... I get that... Obviously he is lying! That much the story amply demonstrates.

What is bugging me is that his lies aren't even fashioned to be sanely credible, and yet
for all we get out of it, it still leads nowhere. So, to me that seems like he's in
some sort of "containment box". He doesn't have a memory of where he got his
orders from, doesn't know who gave them, or even what they were. Thus, he can't
even fashion a passably credible lie, because he lacks so much useful memory.

Okay so that's my posit. Something that would happen if mc had been applied.
Obviously, he would be told to forget what orders he was being given.
Forget who was giving these orders, and even to not remember what the orders
were consciously, and yet he'd still be able to carry them out by what would appear
to him only as a compulsion to act a certain way or do certain things.

Obviously he would not be available if he could, if he wished, point a finger at someone
higher up. He's only "out there" because he cannot! If that's the case, then unless
some way is found to probe for the info, all we have in Lloyd is a vexing circular
conundrum.

His being "comfortable" with giving these blatant lies, even in the face of the evidence,
seems to say that he has no other choice. Or, he could drive himself crazy trying
to account for the missing info he knows he should have, but more likely such
a person will simply go into denial. It's much better to be a baldfaced liar, than
it is to be crazy or admit to oneself that they've been mentally manipulated.
Obviously he has no reason to believe that anyone will consider a story about
mind control, not even conspiracy theorists, so if and when it is used, it becomes
it's own "cover up". That's what makes it the ideal application for an operation
where you need so many people, but need to keep them all in the dark.

I mean, even though we're all familiar in some way, with hypnosis and post hypnotic
suggestion, perhaps have even seen some demonstration of it. Yet, we, and I,
still have a hard time believing that it might have been employed here. They say
L. Ron Hubbard used hypnosis frequently even on mass audiences. We don't know
what the state of the art is, but I just have a sneaking suspicion that it would have
been of the utmost practical use here.

Of course, I'll be the first to admit it will be hard to find. But at least I'm searching.
Perhaps someone who knows more will come to our aid.

Obwon



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- Craig Ranke CIT   Lloyde England & His Taxi Cab- The Eye Of The Storm   Oct 29 2008, 05:09 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Bump.   Oct 29 2008, 06:48 PM
- - lunk   Very good! I liked the method of going from...   Oct 29 2008, 09:01 PM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (lunk @ Oct 30 2008, 01:01 AM) I wi...   Oct 30 2008, 01:01 PM
- - Leslie Landry   Great Job...like always! While watching this,...   Oct 29 2008, 10:14 PM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (Leslie Landry @ Oct 30 2008, 03:14...   Oct 30 2008, 01:46 AM
||- - Leslie Landry   QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Oct 30 2008, 01...   Oct 30 2008, 12:42 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (Leslie Landry @ Oct 29 2008, 09:14...   Jun 9 2011, 09:15 AM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (Obwon @ Jun 9 2011, 02:15 PM) Yeah...   Jun 9 2011, 10:35 AM
- - SPreston   QUOTE (Turbofan)Imagine that, several video and st...   Oct 29 2008, 10:36 PM
- - lunk   Thanks, that was well done. Ok, if the event was s...   Oct 30 2008, 05:48 PM
|- - Carl Bank   QUOTE (lunk @ Oct 30 2008, 11:48 PM) Than...   Oct 31 2008, 04:24 AM
|- - Leslie Landry   QUOTE (Carl Bank @ Oct 31 2008, 03:24 AM)...   Nov 19 2008, 11:18 PM
- - dMole   Lloyde's cab appears to me to be a 1999-ish Li...   Oct 31 2008, 02:38 PM
|- - JFK   QUOTE (dMole @ Oct 31 2008, 02:38 PM) EDI...   Oct 31 2008, 06:05 PM
- - Craig Ranke CIT   Pretend the pole is inside it as Lloyde claimed: ...   Oct 31 2008, 04:23 PM
|- - SPreston   QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT)Pretend the pole is inside ...   Oct 31 2008, 06:14 PM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (SPreston @ Oct 31 2008, 04:14 PM) ...   Oct 31 2008, 06:24 PM
- - dMole   Although I personally detest most newer Ford autos...   Oct 31 2008, 06:16 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   bumped for relevance and importance   Nov 11 2008, 05:40 PM
- - rob balsamo   pinned   Nov 11 2008, 07:32 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Thanks Rob. Has anyone contacted their local, sta...   Nov 12 2008, 01:26 PM
|- - Aldo Marquis CIT   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 12 2008, 06...   Nov 18 2008, 04:45 PM
- - painter   Wow. I'm kind of speechless after watching tha...   Nov 13 2008, 04:00 AM
- - GroundPounder   impressive video....perhaps the effect would have ...   Nov 13 2008, 07:27 AM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 13 2008, 04:27...   Nov 13 2008, 01:58 PM
- - GroundPounder   QUOTE (dMole @ Nov 11 2008, 04:58 PM) Hi ...   Nov 13 2008, 02:44 PM
- - GroundPounder   nice work CIT! lloyde's doorjamb had a bu...   Nov 13 2008, 05:53 PM
|- - SPreston   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 13 2008, 04:53...   Nov 13 2008, 09:48 PM
- - lunk   Where are the wires? Lightpoles have heavy duty w...   Nov 13 2008, 10:15 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 12 2008, 12:15 AM) Wher...   Nov 14 2008, 08:16 AM
- - painter   Here's another question: Why is it so importan...   Nov 14 2008, 12:07 PM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (painter @ Nov 14 2008, 04:07 PM) S...   Nov 14 2008, 12:41 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Why do we even bother?   Nov 19 2008, 07:30 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (Aldo Marquis CIT @ Nov 19 2008, 03...   Nov 19 2008, 11:53 PM
- - dMole   Hello and welcome Marc! I hope you don't ...   Dec 24 2008, 10:32 AM
|- - SPreston   QUOTE (dMole)Hello and welcome Marc! I hope y...   Dec 24 2008, 11:32 AM
|- - madtruth   Dmole, thanks for moving the post over here! ...   Dec 24 2008, 12:13 PM
- - SPreston   Welcome to our search for truth Marc. This family...   Dec 24 2008, 04:03 PM
|- - madtruth   Thanks for sending me this info. SPreston. Heartbr...   Dec 24 2008, 04:56 PM
- - CJEAN   Hi, awaked persons. [ If this WAS said/asked befor...   Aug 2 2009, 12:15 PM
|- - scott75   QUOTE (CJEAN @ Aug 2 2009, 12:15 PM) Hi, ...   Aug 2 2009, 12:27 PM
- - paranoia   im not sure what you mean by investigating his ...   Aug 3 2009, 04:42 AM
|- - scott75   QUOTE (paranoia @ Aug 3 2009, 04:42 AM) i...   Aug 3 2009, 07:55 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (scott75 @ Aug 3 2009, 07:55 AM) I ...   Aug 3 2009, 10:08 AM
|- - scott75   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Aug 3 2009, 10:08 AM...   Aug 3 2009, 11:41 AM
- - Obwon   Okay, let me be clear, I don't expect Craig ...   Jun 22 2011, 09:53 AM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (Obwon @ Jun 22 2011, 02:53 PM) But...   Jun 22 2011, 10:47 AM
- - Obwon   Craig, you said: "Clearly you are confused. ...   Jun 22 2011, 12:21 PM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (Obwon @ Jun 22 2011, 05:21 PM) I n...   Jun 22 2011, 12:44 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (Craig Ranke CIT @ Jun 22 2011, 11...   Jun 23 2011, 11:01 AM
- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE But, one way it could have been employed, is...   Jun 23 2011, 03:25 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (DoYouEverWonder @ Jun 23 2011, 02...   Jun 24 2011, 10:37 AM
- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (Obwon)That's what I find so disquieting...   Jun 23 2011, 05:12 PM
|- - Obwon   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Jun 23 2011, 04:12...   Jun 24 2011, 10:18 AM
- - zoeken   CIT... Sorry if I have overlooked it, but, did yo...   Jun 24 2011, 01:34 AM
|- - Craig Ranke CIT   QUOTE (zoeken @ Jun 24 2011, 06:34 AM) CI...   Jun 24 2011, 03:38 PM
- - Aldo Marquis CIT   Bump for Lloyde England. Because guilt is timeless...   Jun 28 2012, 09:19 PM
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