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Flight 175 Turning And Burning, ...i`ve never seen this before!

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post Jan 3 2008, 02:35 AM
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south tower impact

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post Dec 3 2008, 09:35 PM
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This is important in relation to the CNN video under discussion in this thread. THe outside walls of the WTC were 'load bearing' making this one of the strongest structures ever constructed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-0VSPFTcA

Again, there are people on this site who wish you to believe that a plane can pass through this steel mesh without deforming or crumpling in any way/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQvTDj3374

Here a bird hits the leading edge of a jet and puts a hole in it.

Disinfo alright.

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post Dec 4 2008, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE (skyarcher @ Dec 3 2008, 08:35 PM) *
...... without deforming or crumpling in any way/



Strawman, no one ever claimed as such.


Clean up your act Skyarcher and stop telling lies.
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post Dec 4 2008, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 4 2008, 10:15 AM) *
Strawman, no one ever claimed as such.


Clean up your act Skyarcher and stop telling lies.



Thank you for bringing up the subject of fallacy arguments ) i have seen a few in my time and can spot them a mile away.

you mention one here. 'Strawman' involves mis-representing your opponents position. Distortions designed to more easily refute someone.
I was asked by amazed what I saw wrong with the video under discussion in this thread.
I replied (note the 'I' here)that the plane passes through the side of the WTC without distorting or crumpling in any way.
This is my observation and so I am not mis representing anyone.It is not a straw man argument.
I respectfully suggest that your argument is a strawman argument as you misrepresent me.
TO fellow members, view the ghostplane here , in slow motion and stabilized ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lOcEOsmAtA

and make your own mind up as to the question of the plane deforming or crumpling in any way?? If any member sees any deforming or crumpling please point it out to me. cheers.

Here a few other fallacies.

Suppression of evidence..hiding evidence or a discussion of it.

Smear tactics , which lead to the 'ad hominem' fallacy.. NOT addressing the argument and evidence in front of you and portraying the opposition as 'something'.. crazy or whatever. This is sure sign someone has no argument and is hiding something. This one is easy to recognise.

Thanks

Skyarcher

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