Flight 175 Turning And Burning, ...i`ve never seen this before! |

Jan 3 2008, 02:35 AM
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Jan 5 2009, 08:27 PM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 1,000 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Prague or France Member No.: 2,452 |
Maybe it would sound weird, but designedly I think an airplane could "melt" into WTC building.
As Amazed pointed out, there was much space of windows there and the box columns of the perimeter were strong and heavy enough to "chunk" the plane like a "gigantic potato chopper". As some say, the planes are just flying "biercans". So the outer columns of WTC would just shred'n'rip them into strips'n'chunks of metal which most probably would continue their journey into the inside of the building. The fact, that the hole in the WTC2 was much less wide (<30meters) than the B767 wingspan (46,5 meters) actually supports this my assumption - the outer ~7 meters of wingtips could just not break the outer columns - it is not a speculation, it is a fact that they were not broken, we don't need Gage to confirm this - but the wingtips would not bounce out - their remains would - in such a speed - just continue (a bit slowed then) their movement into the inside of the building ("flow around" the outer collumns - if I should use the "terminology" of the popmechanics (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif) ) - and it would be in a good accord with the conservation of momentum law. With all the respect Rob, it would have nothing with an "arc strongeness" even going back to Romans or that you always bump your head in it. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) The entering edge of a jetliner wing - if it would face a steel column of a centimeter steel at such a speed - would just be instantly shredded as everything else of the plane except engines and landing gear legs. I think we can take it for granted. As Skyarcher showed it can be pretty damaged even if it hits a bird. Also with all respect, I must say what Skyarcher uses for support of the NPT are in my opinion mostly just unconvincing speculations which can sometimes even well serve to support a complete opposite. So I don't wonder it was moved in non-public when the authenticity of the video was so questioned... I think the video C.I.A. posted can well show a real plane entering that "wall" (which in fact on most of its surface was windows) of that real building. But I think we should come back to the original amazement of Amazed. - Could a civil plane be so banked and sharply descending and turning when allegedly flying at such a speed ?? Would the airframe, not speaking about the alleged pilots withstand the forces? I'm not an aviation engineer, but if I remember it well, you've counted the G's recently for the "north path" hypothesis. So I would suggest to do the same for the final maneuvre of "UA175" in the next volume of the Pandora Black Box. - Maybe it would be an interesting question to be answered... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) (Some in my opinion serious modellings of the "UA175" final flightpath based on videos did eg achimspok> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vqOPXxwGo - it looks to me like a pretty sharp bank'n'turn in such a speed) |
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Jan 7 2009, 05:40 PM
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Group: Valued Member Posts: 1,000 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Prague or France Member No.: 2,452 |
But I think we should come back to the original amazement of Amazed. - Could a civil plane be so banked and sharply descending and turning when allegedly flying at such a speed ?? Would the airframe, not speaking about the alleged pilots withstand the forces? I'm not an aviation engineer, but if I remember it well, you've counted the G's recently for the "north path" hypothesis. So I would suggest to do the same for the final maneuvre of "UA175" in the next volume of the Pandora Black Box. - Maybe it would be an interesting question to be answered... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) (Some in my opinion serious modellings of the "UA175" final flightpath based on videos did eg achimspok> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4vqOPXxwGo - it looks to me like a pretty sharp bank'n'turn in such a speed) I mean the last § was respectfully addressed to Rob. |
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CocaineImportAgency Flight 175 Turning And Burning Jan 3 2008, 02:35 AM
CocaineImportAgency ..this is strange!... this links to not the in... Jan 3 2008, 02:37 AM
BaNoyes QUOTE (CocaineImportAgency @ Jan 1 2008, 04... Nov 16 2008, 02:14 PM
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dMole Is Ace Baker in the hizzzouse?? Nov 29 2008, 02:43 AM
amazed! How many different videos and pictures are there o... Nov 29 2008, 11:29 AM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 27 2008, 01:29 P... Nov 29 2008, 01:41 PM
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amazed! You might be right about that Omega, but it seems ... Nov 30 2008, 12:12 PM
Omega892R09 QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 28 2008, 03:12 P... Nov 30 2008, 01:29 PM
skyarcher QUOTE (amazed! @ Nov 30 2008, 11:12 A... Dec 2 2008, 07:44 AM
dMole Now if we (or the FIB) could only figure out where... Nov 30 2008, 12:50 PM
amazed! I speculate that the Boeings were part of the flee... Dec 1 2008, 03:55 PM
amazed! Now we are into hypotheticals Skyarcher, so what... Dec 2 2008, 11:53 AM
skyarcher QUOTE (amazed! @ Dec 2 2008, 10:53 AM... Dec 2 2008, 06:52 PM
rob balsamo Well said amazed! Couldnt have said it better ... Dec 2 2008, 03:41 PM
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skyarcher [quote name='rob balsamo' date='Dec 2 ... Dec 2 2008, 07:10 PM


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rob balsamo Hey Chek... !
How's the truth[attack].org... Dec 2 2008, 06:37 PM
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chek QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 2 2008, 10:37 PM... Dec 2 2008, 07:23 PM
amazed! Skyarcher
Perhaps you did not say "doctored ... Dec 3 2008, 10:57 AM
skyarcher QUOTE (amazed! @ Dec 3 2008, 10:57 AM... Dec 3 2008, 07:01 PM
skyarcher This is important in relation to the CNN video und... Dec 3 2008, 09:35 PM
rob balsamo QUOTE (skyarcher @ Dec 3 2008, 08:35 PM) ... Dec 4 2008, 11:15 AM
skyarcher QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 4 2008, 10:15 AM... Dec 4 2008, 02:22 PM
amazed! Skyarcher
The plane does slow down, abruptly. It... Dec 4 2008, 11:07 AM
rob balsamo Skyarcher,
You said that people of this site are ... Dec 4 2008, 02:32 PM
skyarcher QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Dec 4 2008, 02:32 PM... Dec 6 2008, 08:08 PM
amazed! If you're looking forward to his response Skya... Dec 5 2008, 12:02 PM
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rob balsamo Skyarcher,
The wing leading edge, although very s... Dec 6 2008, 08:12 PM
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Timothy Osman QUOTE The nose of the 'plane' SHOULD have ... Dec 6 2008, 08:39 PM
dMole QUOTE (Timothy Osman @ Dec 6 2008, 05:39 ... Dec 6 2008, 08:57 PM
skyarcher QUOTE (Timothy Osman @ Dec 6 2008, 08:39 ... Dec 6 2008, 09:04 PM
dMole Perpendicular
http://www.mathopenref.com/perpendic... Dec 6 2008, 09:59 PM
amazed! An interesting video of the truck driving through ... Dec 7 2008, 11:04 AM
skyarcher QUOTE (amazed! @ Dec 7 2008, 11:04 AM... Dec 7 2008, 09:54 PM
dMole QUOTE (amazed! @ Dec 7 2008, 08:04 AM... Dec 7 2008, 11:25 PM
amazed! Thanks dMole--1 meter spacing.
Skyarcher
I hope ... Dec 8 2008, 11:23 AM
dMole On the perimeter columns, it appears that there mi... Dec 8 2008, 03:26 PM
amazed! So is it safe to say that the vertical windows in ... Dec 11 2008, 05:07 PM
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amazed! You are doing MY math because you're much bett... Dec 11 2008, 11:26 PM
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