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American 77 Flight Recorder Position Data, Common Arguments Addressed

rob balsamo
post Feb 3 2008, 10:24 PM
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I've been meaning to put this together for awhile now as there has been alot of disinfo out there regarding AA77 FDR positional data. I was finally able to finish it up today and upload it during the Super Bowl (Yeah Giants!).

So here it is....

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American 77 Flight Recorder Position Data

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Please view Pandora's Black Box - Chapter Two - Flight Of American 77 prior to watching this clip to get a better understanding of what is analyzed here.

Addressing common arguments of those who make excuses regarding altitude, vertical speed and position conflicts between American Airlines Flight 77 Data Recorder (Black Box) and the Govt story. The Flight Data Recorder information provided by The National Transportation Safety Board through the Freedom Of Information Act does not support the govt story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org for more details.

For higher quality download, please download from google page here. Also be sure to rate it and leave comments. Thank you.



http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?d...30947&hl=en (dead googlevid link)

new link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2kKAxIZNG8




Edit to Add:

Adding diagram for quick reference. Please see video presentation above for full detailed analysis.

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rob balsamo
post Sep 22 2008, 06:52 PM
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Edited OP to add diagram for quick reference.
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post Nov 12 2008, 06:41 AM
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In the wake of the alleged hijack, AA 77 obviously changes its track without hesitation right towards the Pentagon, hundreds of miles away from it. Subsequently, only minor heading/track changes can be observed.

Even if CAVOK conditions prevailed at the current position and all the way to the Pentagon, it was impossible for the then-flight crew to have straight visual contact with their target, let alone their initial heading made them facing the wrong direction. Furthermore, I doubt there was statisfactory reception of any VOR in vicinity of the pentagon. Given optimum conditions, FL 350 gives us about 220ish NM of VHF range.

I stand to be corrected, but it would seem that there was ABSOLUTELY NO WAY around using an appropriate FIX (an RNAV WPT, a VOR or NDB, raw coordinates), preferrably as an ´active waypoint´ in the Flight Management System.

My initial question is:

Do the available FDR data allow any conclusion as to active waypoint on the ´ACT RTE LEGS´ page of the FMS CDU at 12:55Z and later (when the aircraft leaves its flight planned route in a left turn)? What was the corresponding roll mode used in the autopilot / flight director system?
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rob balsamo
post Nov 12 2008, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (AlphaEcho @ Nov 12 2008, 06:41 AM) *
Do the available FDR data allow any conclusion as to active waypoint on the ´ACT RTE LEGS´ page of the FMS CDU at 12:55Z and later (when the aircraft leaves its flight planned route in a left turn)? What was the corresponding roll mode used in the autopilot / flight director system?


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- rob balsamo   American 77 Flight Recorder Position Data   Feb 3 2008, 10:24 PM
- - Craig Ranke CIT   Niiiice! I knew you'd come out with somet...   Feb 3 2008, 11:46 PM
- - maturin42   Nice work, Rob. It was a good ball game, but I thi...   Feb 4 2008, 12:02 AM
- - rob balsamo   Thanks guys, I put most of it together this morni...   Feb 4 2008, 12:26 AM
- - georgie101   Well put Rob.   Feb 4 2008, 08:17 AM
- - Westgate   Thanks Rob - great job as always. Getting the det...   Feb 4 2008, 05:18 PM
- - Truthseekers   Fantastic job Rob.   Feb 4 2008, 05:51 PM
- - GroundPounder   Another excellent analysis! Thanks Rob.   Feb 4 2008, 07:00 PM
- - rob balsamo   Westgate, Your package should be there by end of ...   Feb 4 2008, 07:49 PM
- - amazed!   Good job Mr. Balsamo, as usual. This is one mo...   Feb 4 2008, 09:48 PM
- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (amazed! @ Feb 4 2008, 09:48 PM)Goo...   Feb 4 2008, 09:55 PM
- - rob balsamo   Made front page on blogger... http://www.911blog...   Feb 5 2008, 12:55 AM
- - SwingDangler   Thanks Rob for the analysis. I would like to reque...   Feb 5 2008, 09:39 AM
- - rob balsamo   http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pressrelease.html   Feb 5 2008, 10:34 AM
- - SwingDangler   So do you think there was a possible FDR swap? F...   Feb 5 2008, 11:08 AM
- - rob balsamo   We dont offer theory or speculate my friend. We sh...   Feb 5 2008, 11:45 AM
- - Nunyabiz   Screw 911blogger they have turned into a bunch of ...   Feb 8 2008, 05:06 PM
- - georgie101   Welcome Nunyabiz   Feb 9 2008, 05:35 AM
- - Nunyabiz   Hiya and Thanks Georgie   Feb 10 2008, 05:17 PM
- - rob balsamo   Edited OP to add diagram for quick reference.   Sep 22 2008, 06:52 PM
|- - AlphaEcho   In the wake of the alleged hijack, AA 77 obviously...   Nov 12 2008, 06:41 AM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (AlphaEcho @ Nov 12 2008, 06:41 AM)...   Nov 12 2008, 12:10 PM
- - AlphaEcho   Thanks Rob, I downloaded that before. I just faile...   Nov 12 2008, 02:47 PM
- - rob balsamo   We been analyzing the NTSB data since 2006 and sti...   Nov 12 2008, 03:06 PM
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- - wishIwasapilot   I hate to keep harping on this, but really, the F...   Feb 17 2015, 09:38 PM
|- - Truthissweet   QUOTE (wishIwasapilot @ Feb 17 2015, 09:3...   Feb 26 2015, 08:35 AM
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