Time of crash for AA Flt 11, Is 8:46:40 crash time accurate? Options

[quicknthedead]

I have written a paper along with Gordon Ross called "Seismic Proof: 9/11 was an Inside Job".

This paper is on the Scholars for 9/11 Truth website.

Here below is the summary and link that I post on the internet regarding this:

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The following data has not been refuted by anyone yet.
Many proponents of the "official conspiracy theory" reject these times out-of-hand stating these facts are false, but unfounded opinions with no factual basis are meaningless.

These times are true and corroborate William Rodriguez and all the other eyewitnesses that morning who testified to explosions in the sub-basements of WTC1 BEFORE THE PLANE HIT THE BUILDING.

The data herein is from two official government sources that were charged with looking into what happened on 9/11, and both approved these times as real, accurate, and precise to the second.

I found these times on the internet this last July 24th by accident.

Craig T. Furlong

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Summary:

Plane Impact Times – Indicting New Evidence of 9/11 Coverup & Involvement

“Seismic Proof – 9/11 Was An Inside Job (Updated Version II)”
Link: http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/Seismic..._Inside_Job.doc
By Craig T. Furlong & Gordon Ross
Scholars for 9/11 Truth: http://www.st911.org /

One World Trade, September 11th, 2001
American Airlines Flight 11
8:46:40 UTC - FAA last primary radar contact
8:46:30 UTC - LDEO/NIST
Both times: real, accurate to the second

Q- What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event ~10 seconds before the aircrash?
A- The only possibility...huge explosion(s).

Q- Who caused these explosions?

Notes:
Ginny Carr audiotape ~9.2 second gap between initial explosion and aircrash.
The 9/11 Commission avoided the time of the initial seismic event.
The 9/11 Commission avoided the many witnesses who testified of explosions in the basements before the plane crashed, and NIST avoided the witnesses as well.
NIST avoided the 9/11 Commission’s time of the aircrash.

Now is the time for the new 9/11 investigation, THIS TIME ONE WITH TEETH.

Justice waits.
{There is no Statute of Limitation on murder.}

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The question I have is regarding the final primary radar return for AA Flt 11 that occurred at 8:46:40.

This is the the time of the crash as given by 9/11 Commission in its Final Report.

This time is clearly indicated in the Fig. 2 graph presented by the NTSB report on this flight:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc01.pdf

HERE IS MY QUESTION: Is this 8:46:40 time real, accurate, and precise?
I believe it to be, and my question here is to seek corroboration of this based upon those with professional experience.

Anyone with experience in the areas of radar, ATC, NTSB etc. is invited to contribute on this matter; please share your knowledge and expertise. I only want the truth and nothing but.

Why am I asking this? Because I have encountered two questions from skeptics who thereby dismiss the paper as valueless. However, I believe their positions are false and that this 8:46:40 is a true and accurate time.

1st Question: Some proponents of the official conspiracy theory (i.e., the government's) have stated that the NTSB report used the word "approximate" time for the 8:46:40, so it can not be considered accurate down to the precise second. I countered by stating that, due to the radar sweep/fresh aspect of the antenna, yes it could be considered "approximate", but only in the instances of
perhaps it was 8:46:41 or
perhaps it was 8:46:42 or
perhaps it was 8:46:43 ...
But that it could not have been any earlier than 8:46:40 because that is the time of the last primary radar return.


2nd Question: Others have stated that, if you look at the Fig. 2 graph, the final 8:46:40 return was at zero ground level, so it couldn't have been AA Flt 11. I countered by saying the primary radar returns only provide location and time (not altitude).

These are the only two questions I have encountered on this crucial 8:46:40 time.

Any word or information from professionals in this area, or have some experience that would be helpful, would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.
Craig T. Furlong
Licensed Pilot: Single-Engine, Land

[honway]

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=130824

Evidence the WTC 2.1 Magnitude Event Occurred at the Same Time the Collapse Began

My intention in this reply is not to distract attention from the important subject of this thread.

But since there are very few things about 9/11 we know with a great deal of certainty, I thought I would link a thread here that establishes the exact time of the collapse of WTC 2. The exact time of the collapse compared to the seismic data
may interest some researchers.

The key point I have uncovered in this area of inquiry is that the NIST claims the 2.1 Magnitude Event occurred as a result of debris hitting the ground, however the data shows beyond any reasonable doubt the seismic peak occurred before a single piece of debris had hit the ground.

This is not an area any reasonable person can dispute. The NIST provided incorrect information concerning the source of the 2.1 magnitude event associated with the collapse of WTC

2.(IMG:http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/BootHill/WTCCollapse_1b.gif)

This post has been edited by honway: Jun 23 2008, 07:30 PM

[achimspok]

(IMG:http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/BootHill/WTCCollapse_1b.gif)

Imho the time has to be calculated this way:

Start time of the seismic records: 13:59:07 UTC
The activity started 14sec later: 13:59:31 UTC
The seismic wave traveled for 17 sec: 13:59:14 UTC
subtract 4 hours for EST: 9:59:14 am EST (start of heavy ground shaking / not the start of the collapse)

This post has been edited by achimspok: Sep 18 2009, 07:08 PM