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OGCT True Believers Bullshit Excuses, Need help to sink OGCT True Believers BS Excuses

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post May 19 2008, 11:11 AM
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[Thread title edited by d from "Non Believers Bullshit Excuses, Need help to sink Non believers bullshit excuses" for clarification]

OK... I am a member of a gaming site at OGN http://forums.ogn.com.au/forumdisplay.php?f=886

And I've been posting links to videos and sites in a thread I started there http://forums.ogn.com.au/showthread.php?t=54722 in the hope some ppl will see the truth.... anyway since I'll have to research this info which I really should do I thought some of you guys could just pump this info out off the top of your heads.

This is a quote is response to me saying tower 7 is the smoking gun, how can you overlook that this... he came back with this...

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Speaking as an engineer, and having done a quick bit of reading to familiarise myself with the Tower Seven situation, my thought is "Damn, it took that long for that building to collapse?"

The damage to the building was significant. That's significant from an engineering point of view, i.e. it would have severely compromised the load bearing paths within the structure. While it's true they're still not sure why the thing collapsed, it's also true that there is only very sketchy information as to the extent of damage to the structure caused by falling debris from WTC1. The fact that they've identified a 10-storey high "gash" in the building, that completely destroyed a large chunk of two of the five rows of colums in the structure (and probably severely damaged the third) suggests some seriously unbalanced loads were acting on the building before it collapsed. It wouldn't take much to push that over the edge.

And I wouldn't call uncontrolled fires that burned from 10am until the building collapsed at 5pm "2 little spot fires"...

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but I don't see the need for explosives in any of the building collapses that day. Based on my knowledge of structural design (which is admittedly limited, as I majored in mechanical engineering, not civil), I can easily see how the structures failed in the way that they did.


Can someone destroy this guys narrow sighted conclusion so I can post a undeniable response. Its just a request and theres absolutely no obligation. thx guys

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post May 21 2008, 03:21 PM
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What caused the ~90% of steel not exposed to fire in the WTC to collapse? The disintegrating ~10% of the so called weakened steel?


Saying the WTC collapsed due to gravity and fire is like saying the pentagon is only covered by a parking gate camera... err. .wait..


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- 1976   OGCT True Believers Bullshit Excuses   May 19 2008, 11:11 AM
- - Carl Bank   video: WTC7 The Smoking Gun of 9/11 http://vide...   May 19 2008, 11:20 AM
- - 1976   WOW... I mean wow... you are a legend Carl, thank ...   May 19 2008, 11:26 AM
- - lunk   It wasn't even in the same block as the rest o...   May 19 2008, 11:51 AM
- - Oceans Flow   The famous NYPD photo of the gouged corner of WTC7...   May 19 2008, 01:37 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 19 2008, 12:37 P...   May 19 2008, 11:53 PM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (nicepants @ May 19 2008, 09:53 PM)...   May 20 2008, 06:40 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (dMole @ May 20 2008, 06:40 PM) I...   May 20 2008, 06:44 PM
- - Sanders   Fires - I don't care how long they burn, do no...   May 19 2008, 02:32 PM
- - lunk   Here is an experiment that anyone can do; Hold an...   May 19 2008, 05:04 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (lunk @ May 19 2008, 04:04 PM) Here...   May 19 2008, 11:54 PM
|- - lunk   QUOTE (nicepants @ May 19 2008, 08:54 PM)...   May 20 2008, 11:18 AM
- - dMole   QUOTE Speaking as an engineer, and having done a q...   May 19 2008, 09:05 PM
- - Oceans Flow   nicepants opined: QUOTE So the NYPD is in on it to...   May 20 2008, 12:01 AM
- - P45   QUOTE The famous NYPD photo of the gouged corner o...   May 20 2008, 12:41 PM
- - Oceans Flow   nicepants: QUOTE Aren't you referring to the p...   May 20 2008, 01:43 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 20 2008, 12:43 P...   May 20 2008, 04:07 PM
- - Sanders   Turbo-fan, forgive me for speaking out of turn, I ...   May 20 2008, 02:43 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (Sanders @ May 20 2008, 01:43 PM) W...   May 20 2008, 04:34 PM
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|- - Sanders   QUOTE (dMole @ May 24 2008, 05:20 PM) ......   May 20 2008, 06:27 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (dMole @ May 20 2008, 05:20 PM) Wel...   May 20 2008, 10:55 PM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (nicepants @ May 20 2008, 08:55 PM)...   May 21 2008, 01:37 AM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (dMole @ May 21 2008, 12:37 AM) HIN...   May 21 2008, 10:49 AM
- - lunk   Picture of wtc prior to 911:   May 20 2008, 03:46 PM
- - Oceans Flow   The entire police force faked the photo?   May 20 2008, 04:24 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 20 2008, 03:24 P...   May 20 2008, 04:37 PM
- - Sanders   Nicepants, it's too bad you weren't born i...   May 20 2008, 05:50 PM
- - dMole   OK, in the interests of time efficiency, I think w...   May 21 2008, 04:51 AM
- - KP50   But, but, but dMole (he gasps in best debunker fas...   May 21 2008, 06:46 AM
- - dMole   ""The Force can have a strong influence ...   May 21 2008, 11:00 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (dMole @ May 21 2008, 08:00 AM) ...   May 21 2008, 12:11 PM
- - Oceans Flow   nicepants: QUOTE An overwhelming majority of evide...   May 21 2008, 11:07 AM
- - dMole   CHARLIE MURPHY!!!!   May 21 2008, 12:48 PM
- - Roark   or this?   May 21 2008, 02:06 PM
- - rob balsamo   looks like nicepanties called in reinforcements......   May 21 2008, 02:10 PM
- - Roark   How about this?   May 21 2008, 02:11 PM
- - Oceans Flow   Funny how this thread has turned into an example o...   May 21 2008, 02:14 PM
- - Roark   This fire killed nine firefighters in Charelston S...   May 21 2008, 02:23 PM
- - Oceans Flow   Show us a picture of that building before it was o...   May 21 2008, 02:24 PM
|- - Roark   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 21 2008, 01:24 P...   May 21 2008, 02:46 PM
- - Roark   Are you forgetting about the strucutral steel port...   May 21 2008, 02:27 PM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (Roark @ May 21 2008, 12:27 PM) Are...   May 21 2008, 02:44 PM
|- - Roark   QUOTE (dMole @ May 21 2008, 01:44 PM) ...   May 21 2008, 02:55 PM
- - Roark   The Mumbai High North Oil platform was compeletly ...   May 21 2008, 02:31 PM
- - Roark   One from the history books. a 12 floor, steel fra...   May 21 2008, 02:36 PM
- - Roark   another steel structure?   May 21 2008, 02:43 PM
- - rob balsamo   Dozens of London Broils, hundreds of Hamburgers an...   May 21 2008, 02:43 PM
|- - Roark   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ May 21 2008, 01:43 P...   May 21 2008, 02:47 PM
|- - rob balsamo   QUOTE (Roark @ May 21 2008, 02:47 PM) In ...   May 21 2008, 02:51 PM
|- - Roark   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ May 21 2008, 01:51 P...   May 21 2008, 02:57 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ May 21 2008, 01:51 P...   May 21 2008, 03:01 PM
- - rob balsamo   Funny how later, all the fire seems to be constrai...   May 21 2008, 02:56 PM
|- - Roark   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ May 21 2008, 01:56 P...   May 21 2008, 03:00 PM
- - Oceans Flow   Roark: QUOTE What difference does it make? Well. I...   May 21 2008, 02:59 PM
- - rob balsamo   Look above Roarke. And you now have strike 1 for a...   May 21 2008, 02:59 PM
- - rob balsamo   Hmmm.. what "Mission" was he referring t...   May 21 2008, 03:03 PM
- - rob balsamo   RE: OGCT True Believers Bullshit Excuses   May 21 2008, 03:05 PM
- - Roark   From a real peer reviewed paper QUOTE The unprote...   May 21 2008, 03:09 PM
- - rob balsamo   What caused the ~90% of steel not exposed to fire ...   May 21 2008, 03:21 PM
|- - nicepants   QUOTE (rob balsamo @ May 21 2008, 02:21 P...   May 21 2008, 03:36 PM
- - Roark   From NIST: QUOTE 1. Was there enough gravitation...   May 21 2008, 03:34 PM
- - dMole   Hey foxy! How's reheat?   May 21 2008, 09:18 PM
- - Oceans Flow   nicepants: QUOTE Are you suggesting that the lower...   May 21 2008, 09:37 PM
- - Oceans Flow   QUOTE What happened to the mass then? The mass wa...   May 21 2008, 09:40 PM
|- - DonM   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ May 21 2008, 06:40 P...   May 21 2008, 09:52 PM
- - DonM   One thing that I have noticed to be a consistent ...   May 21 2008, 09:48 PM
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