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Bisphenol A, from baby bottles to tin cans

dMz
post Nov 30 2008, 04:27 PM
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On phenol groups:

A microbiology professor of mine once told me that the reason that "brown bottle" Lysol "fights germs and odors" is that the phenol interfered with one's olfactory cells.

A quick search indicates:

"Through time, the Lysol and Dettol brands have changed their compositions. Lysol in particular has had its name appended to other types of disinfectants (the “quats” or quaternary compounds). Today it is difficult to find out about brown-bottle Lysol. In the USA it cannot be listed as a disinfectant because it has not been submitted to the Environmental Protection Agency for testing. The taxidermists and the museum/library conservationists have noted the changes in Lysol (substitutes of different phenolic compounds, addition of alcohols, a change in proportion of ingredients and the switch to the quaternary Lysol) which evidently affect how the material cleans or instead dissolves skin and any attached hair or feathers."

http://ykalaska.wordpress.com/2007/12/21/c...d-dettol-lysol/

"There have indeed been forms of Lysol® contain o-phenyl phenol. A
1996 MSDS from Reckitt & Coleman Inc. for "Lysol Phenolic
Disinfectant Cleaner gives (for liquid, gallon bottle, a clear green
liquid, a form I don't think I've ever seen):

Isopropyl Alcohol (SARA 313) : 4.04%
O-Benzyl-P-Chlorophenol : 7.24%
2-Phenylphenol (SARA 313) : 2.23%

(2-Phenylphenol is a synonym for o-phenyl phenol).

FWIW, Conservation Information Network's Materials Database (MCIN),
which is no longer being maintained but is still searchable by
subscribers, has an entry only for the spray. The record seems not
to be dated, so could be more than 10 years old (MCIN started in
1987). It gives the contents for "Sterling Drug Ltd., Lysol
Disinfectant Spray, Scent II" as

O-Phenylphenol 0.100%
Anhydrous Ethanol 67.724%
N-Alkyl N-Ethyl Morpholinium Ethyl Sulfates 0.035%

and says that it is "N[o]t in use in conservation at present"

http://cool-palimpsest.stanford.edu/byform.../1998/1405.html

Phenol and lab rats:
http://medind.nic.in/jae/t06/i1/jaet06i1p60.pdf

FWIW, BPA has 2 phenol groups from the Wiki (which appear to be a benzene with an (OH)- hydroxide radical attached). What do the teenagers use again, benzoyl peroxide?

http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/BE/benzoyl_peroxide.html
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post Nov 30 2008, 04:51 PM
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Inorganic chemistry, all stems from sulfuric acid.
Organic chemistry is based on the benzine ring.
Though I don't really think there is a divide.

I really like the very old chemistry books,
they were easy to understand and follow.
The new ones, are too academically sterilized,
for my liking.

imo, lunk
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post Nov 30 2008, 04:55 PM
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Backing up to Visine and tetrahydrozaline hydrochloride:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrozoline_hydrochloride

another benzene with an imidazoline this time- WTF, but it has a couple of nitrogens?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imidazoline

Well this didn't sound good:

"Toxic Teasers
December 15, 2005
Cynthia Aaron MD

c. 27 y/o female from a frat party found unresponse, very similar to the other young woman except she is deeply unresponsive. Her friend insists she only had one drink but some dude was trying to pick her up. Her vital signs are: 98-104/70-14-afebrile. Her pupils are 4-5 mm and slowly reactive. She has bowel sounds. She is completely unresponsive to any stimuli but is maintaining her airway
Think date rape drugs. For the most part, this group represents sedative-hypnotics. Classically, the medication is surreptitiously put into the drink at a bar and the person doesn’t realize that s/he has been slipped something. Onset of most of these drugs is rapid and duration is 4-12 hours. Other date rape drugs include rohypnol (roofies) which is flunitrazepam – a benzodiazepine, the old fashioned Mickey Finn (chloral hydrate), occasionally scopolamine or atropine eye drops (antimuscarinic delirium) or tetrahydrozaline (Visine™) or other imidazoline eye drops (central alpha 2). Treatment is supportive with airway protection and intubation if necessary"

http://www.childrensdmc.org/upload/docs/Ca...2005answers.pdf
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post Nov 30 2008, 05:34 PM
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I wonder what happens when all these, unnecessary chemicals,
mix together in a human body.

I feel so... polluted, but everybody's polluted,
just some are more polluted than others.

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Bisphenol A was discovered, a long time ago, to be a
potent synthetic estrogen, that disrupts reproduction
and feminizes male mammals.
It is now added in paints, beer can linings, plastic baby bottles,
and rubber pacifiers, cosmetics, hair spray,
and just about everything we breath, touch or contain our food:
QUOTE
The results suggest that BPA not only disrupts placental functions and leads to abortion through chronic stimulation of gene expression by binding to DNA but that it also affects the mortality of neonates through indirect exposure of embryos.

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jrd/53/3/53_509/_article

...and looks like it's not good for your heart, either.
http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/h...-your-food.html

LOOK AT WHAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INTENTIONALLY DOING TO US FOR YEARS.

...now let's all eat our vegetables,
and remember to love and forgive
anybody in this DELIBERATE
INTENTIONAL MALICIOUS POISONING
of the HUMAN RACE,
that they will never admit to.

grrrrrrrr
imo, lunk

(edit) added
from 1993.
I'm sure it's worse by now.

The results from years of synthetic estrogen and analogs
sterilizing the human race:
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The report on sperm counts, in the BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL, examined 61
separate studies of sperm count in men in many countries, including the
U.S., and concluded that, among men in western countries, there has
been a 42 percent decrease in average sperm count, from 113 million per
milliliter (ml) to 66 million per ml, since 1940. (There are 4.5
milliliters in a teaspoon.) Furthermore, the average volume of semen
diminished from 3.4 ml to 2.75 ml, a 20 percent loss since 1940. Thus
the average man has lost 53 percent of sperm production since 1940.

http://www.rachel.org/en/node/4104

We have been intentionally chemically sterilized,
without our consent.

again, grrrrrrrr
imo, lunk

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