The Dragon Blood-line
Jun 24 2008, 12:38 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49
I wrote the posts in this thread (those under my name) as I embarked on a path of research, motivated purely by an intense curiosity, and I marked my discoveries along the way here in this thread. I was fascinated by the use of occult symbology in our media (and other clues), and the more I investigated the more I saw that the history, in fact "world-view" that we have all been told to accept is mostly balony. (I stand by that 100%.) However I concluded too fast that there was a linear connection between the self-annointed managers of our country (and, to a large and increasing degree, our planet) and an ancient "dragon" culture. And I have (somewhat mistakenly) described this culture as of a "conquering" nature in many of my posts. While I learned a great deal on my search for answers, and while the reader might find some of my posts interesting, I have discovered that my overriding view of the big picture was wrong.
The true dragons were a wise and just sub-race of Kings and Queens of antiquity, and they have been all but gone for a thousand years - exterminated by the Church and her clients, the long string of usurpers who traded loyalty to Rome in return for its (fraudulent) recognition of kinghood. The Templars were not dragons (I don't think), they were rather a military arm of the dragons, from whom they split and pursued their own interests. William the Conqueror may have had some dragon blood in him, but he was first a warrior and his loyalties lied with his own power-grab - he killed many true "dragons" (the elven Picts) during his brutal subjugation of the north of England - and, the descendents of his warrior co-usurpers from Normandy, "bully-boys" as they have been described, who comprised the moneyed-elite of America throughout much of its history, were no better despite their claims of blue-bloodedness. Far worse are the bankers, often the descendents of those Norman colonists, who have taken their place. None of these people who have caused so much anquish in pursuit of their own monetary gain throughout modern history are "true" dragons, though I suspect they cling to imagined thread-thin connections to those ancient families, while they have hijacked the symbology and 'religion' (for lack of a better word) of the ancient cults in pursuit of their own bloated vision of themselves as overlords of us "stupid sheep".
If you want to know about the true "dragon blood-line", don't bother with my drivel, read instead "The Dragon Legacy" or any other of the works of Nicholas de Vere.]
Here in Japan, people count things in 10's, it's an overwhelmingly metric country. Makes sense, we all have 10 fingers to count with. In the States, or in Britain I would assume, you buy a dozen donuts. 12 hours on the clock. 12 months in a year, 12 inches in a foot.
It would never have dawned on me that this was out of the ordinary, were I not living in Japan where nothing is counted by 12's. The number 13 crops up sometimes as well, actually there are 13 lunar cycles in a year. 13 original colonies, 13 stripes on the flag, 13 rows of bricks on the pyramid on the back of the dollar, 13 arrows in the Eagle's clutches (all obstensibly derived from the number of original colonies, but was it really all coincidence?). Also, there are 12 member banks in the Federal Reserve system, 12 stars on the EU flag. 12, or 13, depending on how you count, tribes of Israel. Jesus had 12 disciples. 4 suits in a deck of cards (the seasons?), each with 13 cards, bringing the deck total to 52 (52 weeks in a year??). And, apparently, there are 13 ruling families in the Illuminati, or 12 or 13 "Illuminati" heads.
Or what I don't know, but having listened to a radio interview given by George Szymanski with a woman who apparently has escaped from the Illuminati cult who calls herself "Svali", I'm all ears. Szymanski claims to have also talked to another woman in Italy 25 years ago who also escaped from the same cult, from whom he says he heard similar stories. That woman later committed suicide, succesfully on the third attempt. (Illuminati members, according to info posted by "Svali" on another website, are meticulously programmed from infancy, and committing suicide if they ever try to leave the "family" is one of the things that are imprinted onto their psyche.)
Here is a link to a site where you can get some brief info about who Svali is, and a link to her interview with George Szymanski.
I was always skeptical of this talk of the "Illuminati". Even Svali seems to prefer to refer to the orginization as the "family" or by other terms. There's just so much crap on the web, I'm just immediately turned off by these green-text over black-background websites covered with skulls and references to Satan in every paragraph.
One of the things that trips people up though, I think, is the word "Lucifer". Even Svali states in her interview with Szymanski that "Luciferianism" and Satanic worship are entirely different - I'm adding in my own commentary here, but Lucifer is another name for the planet Venus - the morning star, or harbinger of the coming sunrise ... hence the connection to "Illumination".
But hey, far be it for me to want to moderate on behalf of the people who are trying to rule the world and extinguish the spirit of Liberty in America, and around the world for that matter. These are evil people ... but only from the viewpoint of those of us who think of good and evil in accepted, normal terms.
CIA posted this in a thread in the lobby about the Vatican, and I'm finally going to respond with what I will post here subsequently over the coming days or weeks.
...i try and get my head around this stuff as best i can!... but there is something that bugs me that i cant ... or dont know how to... explain!
...Isreal, Gods chosen people etc etc!.... is a kind of decoy!?... its focusing our attention away from Egypt!?... Egypt is the key to unlock our questions!.... probably think i`m nuts or thick!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)
One repeatedly reads (if they delve into this long enough) about these Illuminatti or British and European royalty claiming Mesopotamian roots. Then you have the first written texts of antiquity, cuneiform, which were found in Mesopotamia. There are step pyramids (Ziggurats actually) all around modern Iraq and Iran - even a famous one in Ur (Mesopotamia, or more correctly, Sumer, the birthplace of Abraham). Shall I say it .... civilization eminated from Sumer - it didn't just spring up in Egypt and the Indus Valley after that coincidentally, what would be the chances of that? So it's no surprise that pagan traditions and beliefs in far flung places would be similar.
WTF am I talking about!?? I wish I could shell it out in one post ... but it's too deep, there is just too much information.
But to elicit some interest, there are 12 constellations - through which the sun moves about, as per the theory forwarded in the Zeitgeist movie. Yes, sun worship is a big part of all this pagan stuff. But there is another way of looking at it I think, there is Draco, the dragon, I like to think of it as the 13th constellation, smack dab in the middle of these other 12 constellations, at true theoretical north (i.e. directly north if you correct for the earth's slow wobble). I will attempt to show that this identity of the dragon was adopted by the elite of early western civilization, which emenated from Sumer (identified also as Mesopotamia, Chaldea), and that these people, possessing superior ship-building, weapon-making, architectural and organizational expertise, were able to conquer indiginous peoples just about wherever they went. They left their mark from Egypt to Greece to France to Scandinavia to Britain to China ... And, if we try, we can trace their steps practically to the White House.
I decided not to post this in the religion section - because this has very little to do with religion actually ... at least not monotheistic religion. And since I seriously doubt there are too many hard-core pagans out there reading who I might offend, I'm just gonna stick this in 'research'.
More to come. For now, the stars. The pink circle in the image at the bottom of this post is the course the earth's axis traces as it wobbles - each precession from zodiacal age to age takes 2150 years, so for the earth to complete this wobble and come back to the same axial place takes a little over 25 thousand years. At the moment the north star is Polaris, but a few thousand years ago it was Thuban ...as the earth slowly "wobbles" the current north-star changes.
For anyone who has seen Zeitgeist, it should be plain that the ancient Egyptians understood this wobble of the earth's axis, and the precession of the ages. We are now in the age of Pieces, have been since around the time of Christ, and will be until 2150. That's why born-agains stick a fish on the back of their cars (without knowing why), it's why the pope's mitre looks like a fish's head when you look at it from the side.
(This is covered more or less in Zeitgeist.)
But what is amazing is that people thousands of years ago had a handle on this slow wobble of the earth's axis, the precession through the constellations as it were, and knew where true north was ... that is, north if you correct for this wobble, and that they saw a dragon there and identified themselves with it.
(While I've removed many stars and constellations for clarity, the relative positions of the stars below are correct and un-altered.)
(12 + 1 = 13)
Jul 5 2008, 12:29 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49
I've had a bit of free time lately, and with nothing better to do one day I was glancing over a Sumerian Language FAQ that I had stumbled on to.
This guy is pretty smart, I mean, he speaks Sumerian for heaven's sakes. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Anyway, there was a question, >"Why can't I find the word Beru? Can the word ever signify a "day" or a "double-day"?
Answer: "That is an Akkadian word. Look in the Sumerian Lexicon under danna in the DAN section. Beru is the Akkadian equivalent, translated 'double-hour; league'."
I about fell off my chair. Not because of the meaning for the words given, but because here an expert on Sumerian language, with no hidden agenda, states in a FAQ that "danna" and "DAN" in Sumerian equate with "Bel" in Akkadian. (I live in Japan where "R"'s and "L"'s are interchangeable ... when I see "beru", I read "Bel". )
Akkadia, or Akkad, BTW, was adjacent to Sumer, between it and Phoenicia. Maybe I oughta post a map, so people can follow...
Apparently my Japanese reading habits weren't misplaced, Wikipedia states that "Bel" derives from the Akkadian "Beru", meaning lord or master. And right next door the Phoenicians were calling their head god "Ba'al", taken from the Akkadian Beru (Bel); father, or mother, depending on which story of antiquity you choose, of Dan or Danaus or Danna. Lest we forget that in Phoenicia the father of Ba'al was Dagon ... All things considered, is it plausible that the Phoenician "Dagon" and our word for dragon are really unrelated? And what of the patriarchal god of the Irish Tuatha De Danaan, "Dagda"? Or, for that matter, the name of two noteable midaeval French kings of the Merovingian line, Dagobert I and Dagobert II?
It must be obvious that the names Dagobert, Dagda, Dagon and dragon are seductively similar. I can hardly believe that Dan and danna in Sumerian were simply a unit of measure ... I suspect an alternate and far less boring meaning was also attached. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
What meaning is given for the biblical name 'Dan'? It means "Judge", one will read. But there are other words used in the old testament which are more specific to the meaning of "to judge" - in fact, I read that the meaning of the biblical name 'Dan' is closer to "government". Government, Judge, Lord, Master, Bel, Beru, Dan, Danna, Danaan, Danaus, Danois, Dagon, Dagda, Dragon, Serpent.
I think one can see where the idea that a son of Jacob, named Dan, and his followers, took to the sea and single handedly conquered peoples from Greece to Sardinia to Scandinavia to Britain is, well, how shall I put it. Somewhat naive (even though I sort of bought into it for a while), though not totally baseless. A better way to think of it IMO might be, is that the meaning of "Dan" is far more expansive, the tribe of Dan with their serpent banner were just a single manefestation of this wider nexus, and the term Dan and it's variants are code for this pagan heritage.
So what about Britain?
was found in front of the "Newgrange Temple", thought to be 5200 years old, predating the Egyptian pyramids by 500 years.
There are lots more ancient sites of like age in Ireland.
Around 3800 BC neolithic agriculturists began arriving in large numbers. These early farmers were the builders of the famous mounds and passage tombs mentioned above, and which are more densely packed into Ireland than into any other country...
...Portal tombs (or chambers) are claimed to be mainly constructed between 3000 and 2000 BC. The majority of these are found in the north of Ireland, with another concentration of tombs found along a line from Dublin toward Waterford. About 161 Portal tombs, including those more commonly called dolmens, have been found. They are generally classified as above ground burial chambers, consisting of a number of upright stones covered by one of two capstones, and sometimes placed in a long or round mound.
But there's a problem.
The only written records from Ireland that exist are mythological in nature, from records of other cultures historians have put together a cronology that is more or less accepted, describing numerous invasions by peoples known (in order) as the Partholonians, the Nemedians, the Formorians, the Tuatha De Danaan, and finally the Celts. (The druids, as I understand it, were an elite caste of priests who's presence overlaps these periods.) The problem is, the Irish neolithic sites pre-date any of these peoples.
So who built them?
I don't have the ability to, nor do I intend to, deal comprehensively with the Irish (and by extention the Scots). That topic is probably worthy of a lifetime of work. But it has to be addressed.
This, ironically, is one of the best and easy to digest summaries (of the mythical accounts) I've read, written not by a historian, but by an artist (why am I not surprised).
The most written about (apart from the Celts) of these "invaders" were the Tuatha De Danaan (who's alleged connection to the Tribe of Dan is why I ever looked into this in the first place). They were supposedly a tall, enlightened and advanced peoples.
The roots of the Tuatha De Danaan is quite the mystery. Conventionally, they hailed from four mythical cities, Falias, Findias, Gorias, and Murias. From those four cities they bring four treasures: "from Falias Fál or Lia Fáil, the stone of destiny, which cries out under a lawful king; from Findias the sword of Nuadu, which allows no one to escape; from Gorias Gáe Assail, the spear of Lug Lámfhota, which guarantees victory; from Murias the cauldron of the Dagda, which leaves everyone satisfied."
Which tells us little, though apparently the four suits of the tarot (and by extention the four suits of western playing cards, for what it's worth) are derived from these four treasures.
There are a few sort of "left of center" theories of where the Tuatha De Danaan derive from.
...The Guanches were a "highly beautiful white race, tall, muscular, and with a great many blondes amongst their numbers"...remnants of the Mazur Grail tribe.
I asked ...for more information concerning the story. He opened the scroll for me into the akashic records to reveal the following. (It refers to) the journey of the 30 Spirit Tribes reflected paragenetically through a Hyperborean descended people, who after the Atlantean deluge became nomadic when their northern region of land slipped beneath the seas. These people contained the genetic and paragenetic seeds for the entire 30 Spirit Races of mankind, which when brought together with the remaining eight advanced straillium or strands, will form a physical vehicle for the regenerated Adam Kadmon.
The Hyperboreans contained Sirian blood, but this particular Hyperborean 'family' within the greater race, also held the genetic codes of the 30 Spirit Races through a mixture of five 'tribes'.
...The ‘people’ who carried the gene strands of the five Earth families and three star races, were originally called the Mazur. As they began their nomadic journey, they traveled through many lands. A branch of the Mazur became the Tuatha de Dannan.
Awwhh, sheesh, I sure hope I can tie these loose ends together in a way that doesn't require incorporating gods or aliens having sex with humans again (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/doh1.gif)
But there are many theories to chose from. Hyperborea, wherever that was, crops up, as does Atlantis, Lemuria (a mythical lost civilization in the Pacific), Scythia, and Greece.
And then there is this ...
Their principal residences were in and around Brú na Bóinne, the Boyne Valley, where Newgrange and the other great monuments stand today.
According to Lebor Gabála the Tuatha Dé Danann were the progeny of those Nemedians who followed Jobhath, the third son of Nemed, out of Ireland after the Battle of Conann's Tower.
Led by their commander Jarbonel they settled with others of their race near the city of Thebes in Greece, in an area "between the Athenians and the Philistines." Here they practised the arts of sorcery, magic and necromancy; for according to Forus Feasa there arose great conflict between the Athenians and the Assyrians: "…and several battles fought between them. These sorcerers would use their diabolical charms and revive the slain Athenians, and the next day bring them to battle, which so dispirited the Assyrians…"
The Tuatha Dé Danann then wandered across Europe settling first in Scandanavia, and later in Alba (Scotland) and "The Northern Isles".
From Alba they resolved to reclaim Ireland from the Fomor and the Fir Bolg, for Ireland was theirs by right of heredity, their Promised Land. With them they brought four great magical treasures: the Lia Fáil or Stone of Destiny which shrieked under the rightful monarch of Ireland at the time of his coronation; the Spear of Lugh which would brook no defeat of the warrior who wielded it; the Sword of Nuada (Cliamh Solais the Sword of Fire) from which no one could escape once it was drawn; and the Cauldron of the Dagda from which none came away hungry.
So maybe the Tuatha De Danaan invasion was a "homecoming"?
Yet all of this is but decoration on the cake compared to the research being done by an Irishman by the name of Michael Tsarion ... who insists that Ireland was much more than a backwater. I'll keep holding my cards, but his hypothesis are interesting and pretty well backed-up ...
Next I intend to deal with the Milesians (sometimes said to be Celts) - and the Scythians ... if they aren't one and the same.
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