The Dragon Blood-line
Jun 24 2008, 12:38 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49
I wrote the posts in this thread (those under my name) as I embarked on a path of research, motivated purely by an intense curiosity, and I marked my discoveries along the way here in this thread. I was fascinated by the use of occult symbology in our media (and other clues), and the more I investigated the more I saw that the history, in fact "world-view" that we have all been told to accept is mostly balony. (I stand by that 100%.) However I concluded too fast that there was a linear connection between the self-annointed managers of our country (and, to a large and increasing degree, our planet) and an ancient "dragon" culture. And I have (somewhat mistakenly) described this culture as of a "conquering" nature in many of my posts. While I learned a great deal on my search for answers, and while the reader might find some of my posts interesting, I have discovered that my overriding view of the big picture was wrong.
The true dragons were a wise and just sub-race of Kings and Queens of antiquity, and they have been all but gone for a thousand years - exterminated by the Church and her clients, the long string of usurpers who traded loyalty to Rome in return for its (fraudulent) recognition of kinghood. The Templars were not dragons (I don't think), they were rather a military arm of the dragons, from whom they split and pursued their own interests. William the Conqueror may have had some dragon blood in him, but he was first a warrior and his loyalties lied with his own power-grab - he killed many true "dragons" (the elven Picts) during his brutal subjugation of the north of England - and, the descendents of his warrior co-usurpers from Normandy, "bully-boys" as they have been described, who comprised the moneyed-elite of America throughout much of its history, were no better despite their claims of blue-bloodedness. Far worse are the bankers, often the descendents of those Norman colonists, who have taken their place. None of these people who have caused so much anquish in pursuit of their own monetary gain throughout modern history are "true" dragons, though I suspect they cling to imagined thread-thin connections to those ancient families, while they have hijacked the symbology and 'religion' (for lack of a better word) of the ancient cults in pursuit of their own bloated vision of themselves as overlords of us "stupid sheep".
If you want to know about the true "dragon blood-line", don't bother with my drivel, read instead "The Dragon Legacy" or any other of the works of Nicholas de Vere.]
Here in Japan, people count things in 10's, it's an overwhelmingly metric country. Makes sense, we all have 10 fingers to count with. In the States, or in Britain I would assume, you buy a dozen donuts. 12 hours on the clock. 12 months in a year, 12 inches in a foot.
It would never have dawned on me that this was out of the ordinary, were I not living in Japan where nothing is counted by 12's. The number 13 crops up sometimes as well, actually there are 13 lunar cycles in a year. 13 original colonies, 13 stripes on the flag, 13 rows of bricks on the pyramid on the back of the dollar, 13 arrows in the Eagle's clutches (all obstensibly derived from the number of original colonies, but was it really all coincidence?). Also, there are 12 member banks in the Federal Reserve system, 12 stars on the EU flag. 12, or 13, depending on how you count, tribes of Israel. Jesus had 12 disciples. 4 suits in a deck of cards (the seasons?), each with 13 cards, bringing the deck total to 52 (52 weeks in a year??). And, apparently, there are 13 ruling families in the Illuminati, or 12 or 13 "Illuminati" heads.
Or what I don't know, but having listened to a radio interview given by George Szymanski with a woman who apparently has escaped from the Illuminati cult who calls herself "Svali", I'm all ears. Szymanski claims to have also talked to another woman in Italy 25 years ago who also escaped from the same cult, from whom he says he heard similar stories. That woman later committed suicide, succesfully on the third attempt. (Illuminati members, according to info posted by "Svali" on another website, are meticulously programmed from infancy, and committing suicide if they ever try to leave the "family" is one of the things that are imprinted onto their psyche.)
Here is a link to a site where you can get some brief info about who Svali is, and a link to her interview with George Szymanski.
I was always skeptical of this talk of the "Illuminati". Even Svali seems to prefer to refer to the orginization as the "family" or by other terms. There's just so much crap on the web, I'm just immediately turned off by these green-text over black-background websites covered with skulls and references to Satan in every paragraph.
One of the things that trips people up though, I think, is the word "Lucifer". Even Svali states in her interview with Szymanski that "Luciferianism" and Satanic worship are entirely different - I'm adding in my own commentary here, but Lucifer is another name for the planet Venus - the morning star, or harbinger of the coming sunrise ... hence the connection to "Illumination".
But hey, far be it for me to want to moderate on behalf of the people who are trying to rule the world and extinguish the spirit of Liberty in America, and around the world for that matter. These are evil people ... but only from the viewpoint of those of us who think of good and evil in accepted, normal terms.
CIA posted this in a thread in the lobby about the Vatican, and I'm finally going to respond with what I will post here subsequently over the coming days or weeks.
...i try and get my head around this stuff as best i can!... but there is something that bugs me that i cant ... or dont know how to... explain!
...Isreal, Gods chosen people etc etc!.... is a kind of decoy!?... its focusing our attention away from Egypt!?... Egypt is the key to unlock our questions!.... probably think i`m nuts or thick!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)
One repeatedly reads (if they delve into this long enough) about these Illuminatti or British and European royalty claiming Mesopotamian roots. Then you have the first written texts of antiquity, cuneiform, which were found in Mesopotamia. There are step pyramids (Ziggurats actually) all around modern Iraq and Iran - even a famous one in Ur (Mesopotamia, or more correctly, Sumer, the birthplace of Abraham). Shall I say it .... civilization eminated from Sumer - it didn't just spring up in Egypt and the Indus Valley after that coincidentally, what would be the chances of that? So it's no surprise that pagan traditions and beliefs in far flung places would be similar.
WTF am I talking about!?? I wish I could shell it out in one post ... but it's too deep, there is just too much information.
But to elicit some interest, there are 12 constellations - through which the sun moves about, as per the theory forwarded in the Zeitgeist movie. Yes, sun worship is a big part of all this pagan stuff. But there is another way of looking at it I think, there is Draco, the dragon, I like to think of it as the 13th constellation, smack dab in the middle of these other 12 constellations, at true theoretical north (i.e. directly north if you correct for the earth's slow wobble). I will attempt to show that this identity of the dragon was adopted by the elite of early western civilization, which emenated from Sumer (identified also as Mesopotamia, Chaldea), and that these people, possessing superior ship-building, weapon-making, architectural and organizational expertise, were able to conquer indiginous peoples just about wherever they went. They left their mark from Egypt to Greece to France to Scandinavia to Britain to China ... And, if we try, we can trace their steps practically to the White House.
I decided not to post this in the religion section - because this has very little to do with religion actually ... at least not monotheistic religion. And since I seriously doubt there are too many hard-core pagans out there reading who I might offend, I'm just gonna stick this in 'research'.
More to come. For now, the stars. The pink circle in the image at the bottom of this post is the course the earth's axis traces as it wobbles - each precession from zodiacal age to age takes 2150 years, so for the earth to complete this wobble and come back to the same axial place takes a little over 25 thousand years. At the moment the north star is Polaris, but a few thousand years ago it was Thuban ...as the earth slowly "wobbles" the current north-star changes.
For anyone who has seen Zeitgeist, it should be plain that the ancient Egyptians understood this wobble of the earth's axis, and the precession of the ages. We are now in the age of Pieces, have been since around the time of Christ, and will be until 2150. That's why born-agains stick a fish on the back of their cars (without knowing why), it's why the pope's mitre looks like a fish's head when you look at it from the side.
(This is covered more or less in Zeitgeist.)
But what is amazing is that people thousands of years ago had a handle on this slow wobble of the earth's axis, the precession through the constellations as it were, and knew where true north was ... that is, north if you correct for this wobble, and that they saw a dragon there and identified themselves with it.
(While I've removed many stars and constellations for clarity, the relative positions of the stars below are correct and un-altered.)
(12 + 1 = 13)
Jul 28 2008, 03:17 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49
If I said that Dracula was connected up with all this, you'd probably laugh and ask me what I was smokin'.
But guess what.......? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
The inspiration for the story of Dracula was Vlad Tepes, or Vlad III the Impaler, a Romanian prince of Walachia who's father, Vlad II, was an illegitimate son of Mircea, of the House of Basarab. Walachia was ruled at that time by Hungary, and Vlad II was sent (possibly first as a hostage) to the house of the Holy Roman Emperor Sigismund I, King of Hungary, where he spent his formative years as a page. He was well accepted there and invited to join Sigismund's Order of the Dragon, from where Vlad aquired the name Dracul. His son, Vlad III, was therefore referred to as son of Dracul, or Dracul-a, and went on to become the feared Vlad Tepes, Prince of Walachia.
Sigismund is sometimes represented as a king of the Merovingian line, but when I started poking around trying to find some confirmation, I got nothing. The problem is, Sigismund was a Germanic Holy Roman Emperor, and those guys (at first glance) seem to be totally separate from the Frankish Kings.
The Frankish Kings went through two main dynasties, the Merovingians (who first united Gaul), and the Carolingians. This is somewhat interesting because there is actually, I and many believe, a continuous bloodline that connects the two, the main difference between the dynasties was sort of a renegotiation of the Frankish kings' relationship with the Church of Rome, to take poetic liberties. The Merovingians appear to have maintained a tentative alliance with the Church, but there were fatal differences in the way the two operated . The Merovingians condoned hereditery or "messianic" succession while the Church promoted "Apostolic" succession. Essentially, the Merovingians, as did the Davidic kings they claimed to be descended from, transferred power via the blood-line, whereas in the Church it was transfered by ordination. Also there was the obvious little problem that, while the Merovingians beginning with Clovis had converted to Christianity, they were basically Kabbalistic pagans, while the Church at the time suffered, I believe, from a strong identity with the solar-cult of Aton, those two traditions having been anathema to one another since the ruinous reign of the Egyptian Pharaoh Akhenaton who tried to force Atonism on the Egyptians of the 18th dynasty. I am starting to see that a struggle between these two schools, the solar-cult of Aton and the pagan Kabbalists (neither of which many people know much or anything about ironically), has played a significant role throughout history. IMO (still digging).
Anyway, after nearly three centuries of rule there came a period of inept or unremarkable Merovingian rulers, during which time power gradually transferred to the "Mayors of the Palace"...
The Merovingian kings of the Franks had become mere puppets in
the hands of their "Mayors of the Palace," in league with the bishops of Rome. At last "Pepin addressed to the pope the suggestive question: 'In regard to the Kings of the Franks who no longer possess the royal power, is this state of things proper?'
... Pope Zacharias replied that such a state of things was not ... proper -- [that "he should be king who possessed the royal power"].
(This looks like a pretty good article btw, I've been digging into this stuff for almost 2 years now and I knew that Rome played a significant role in the switch from the Merovingian line to the Carolingian line, yet very few pages yeilded by my search a minute ago recognised that little detail - oh, how the truth is hidden from us ... I haven't read all of that piece yet - but I will - after which I'll probably have to edit a bunch of this post (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/doh1.gif) )
...and so a Rome-sanctioned version of the Frankish Kings proceeded, with Charles Martel, Pepin the Short, the illustrious Charlemagne and his sons and their anscestors ... but the Merovingian line may well have continued through the back door, via the wife of Pepin, Bertrada "broadfoot" de Laon.
As one would expect, much of the data is spotty and certain critical facts are unknowable. But we have to work with what info we can get ahold of (alot like 9/11, eh??). Bertrada "broadfoot" de Laon's descendency from the Merovingians is somewhat controversial (the problem is with her grandmother Bertha of Prum btw). But, considering later events, I'll err on the side of conventional wisdom that the line continued.
So, assuming we have established descendency from the Merovingian line to the Carolingian line (of Charlemagne), that doesn't get us to the Germanic Emperors of which Sigismund was one of.
The Germanic Emperors leading to Sigismund are as follows:
Otto I • Otto II • Otto III • Henry II • Conrad II • Henry III • Henry IV • Henry V • Lothair II • Frederick I • Henry VI • Otto IV • Frederick II • Henry VII • Louis IV • Charles IV • Sigismund.
Sigismund sounds AWFULLY Merovingian to me, and I had read that he was a Merovingian so many times that I couldn't believe he wasn't descended from that lot, especially having stumbled on to the bit about his "Order of the Dragon" that Vlad the Impaler's father was an inductee into. But I couldn't find the connection. ... until I googled Otto I the Great (Duke of Saxony, King of Germany, King of Italy), the first of the Holy Roman Emperors. Otto was the son of Henry the Fowler!
Henry the Fowler's mother was Hedwiga, a great-great grand-daughter of Charlemagne. THERE's the Merovingian connection.
But I'm doubly pleased by this discovery ... because Henry the Fowler, on his father's side, is descended from Vikings as well - Woden in fact (see geneology above).
(This same blending of Viking and Merovingian blood resulted in the Royal lines that so dominated Europe, and, a century and a half after Henry the Fowler, conquered England.)
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