The Dragon Blood-line Options

[Sanders]

[Disclaimer:

I wrote the posts in this thread (those under my name) as I embarked on a path of research, motivated purely by an intense curiosity, and I marked my discoveries along the way here in this thread. I was fascinated by the use of occult symbology in our media (and other clues), and the more I investigated the more I saw that the history, in fact "world-view" that we have all been told to accept is mostly balony. (I stand by that 100%.) However I concluded too fast that there was a linear connection between the self-annointed managers of our country (and, to a large and increasing degree, our planet) and an ancient "dragon" culture. And I have (somewhat mistakenly) described this culture as of a "conquering" nature in many of my posts. While I learned a great deal on my search for answers, and while the reader might find some of my posts interesting, I have discovered that my overriding view of the big picture was wrong.

The true dragons were a wise and just sub-race of Kings and Queens of antiquity, and they have been all but gone for a thousand years - exterminated by the Church and her clients, the long string of usurpers who traded loyalty to Rome in return for its (fraudulent) recognition of kinghood. The Templars were not dragons (I don't think), they were rather a military arm of the dragons, from whom they split and pursued their own interests. William the Conqueror may have had some dragon blood in him, but he was first a warrior and his loyalties lied with his own power-grab - he killed many true "dragons" (the elven Picts) during his brutal subjugation of the north of England - and, the descendents of his warrior co-usurpers from Normandy, "bully-boys" as they have been described, who comprised the moneyed-elite of America throughout much of its history, were no better despite their claims of blue-bloodedness. Far worse are the bankers, often the descendents of those Norman colonists, who have taken their place. None of these people who have caused so much anquish in pursuit of their own monetary gain throughout modern history are "true" dragons, though I suspect they cling to imagined thread-thin connections to those ancient families, while they have hijacked the symbology and 'religion' (for lack of a better word) of the ancient cults in pursuit of their own bloated vision of themselves as overlords of us "stupid sheep".

If you want to know about the true "dragon blood-line", don't bother with my drivel, read instead "The Dragon Legacy" or any other of the works of Nicholas de Vere.]


Here in Japan, people count things in 10's, it's an overwhelmingly metric country. Makes sense, we all have 10 fingers to count with. In the States, or in Britain I would assume, you buy a dozen donuts. 12 hours on the clock. 12 months in a year, 12 inches in a foot.

It would never have dawned on me that this was out of the ordinary, were I not living in Japan where nothing is counted by 12's. The number 13 crops up sometimes as well, actually there are 13 lunar cycles in a year. 13 original colonies, 13 stripes on the flag, 13 rows of bricks on the pyramid on the back of the dollar, 13 arrows in the Eagle's clutches (all obstensibly derived from the number of original colonies, but was it really all coincidence?). Also, there are 12 member banks in the Federal Reserve system, 12 stars on the EU flag. 12, or 13, depending on how you count, tribes of Israel. Jesus had 12 disciples. 4 suits in a deck of cards (the seasons?), each with 13 cards, bringing the deck total to 52 (52 weeks in a year??). And, apparently, there are 13 ruling families in the Illuminati, or 12 or 13 "Illuminati" heads.

Or what I don't know, but having listened to a radio interview given by George Szymanski with a woman who apparently has escaped from the Illuminati cult who calls herself "Svali", I'm all ears. Szymanski claims to have also talked to another woman in Italy 25 years ago who also escaped from the same cult, from whom he says he heard similar stories. That woman later committed suicide, succesfully on the third attempt. (Illuminati members, according to info posted by "Svali" on another website, are meticulously programmed from infancy, and committing suicide if they ever try to leave the "family" is one of the things that are imprinted onto their psyche.)

Here is a link to a site where you can get some brief info about who Svali is, and a link to her interview with George Szymanski.

http://www.projectcamelot.net/svali.html

I was always skeptical of this talk of the "Illuminati". Even Svali seems to prefer to refer to the orginization as the "family" or by other terms. There's just so much crap on the web, I'm just immediately turned off by these green-text over black-background websites covered with skulls and references to Satan in every paragraph.

One of the things that trips people up though, I think, is the word "Lucifer". Even Svali states in her interview with Szymanski that "Luciferianism" and Satanic worship are entirely different - I'm adding in my own commentary here, but Lucifer is another name for the planet Venus - the morning star, or harbinger of the coming sunrise ... hence the connection to "Illumination".

But hey, far be it for me to want to moderate on behalf of the people who are trying to rule the world and extinguish the spirit of Liberty in America, and around the world for that matter. These are evil people ... but only from the viewpoint of those of us who think of good and evil in accepted, normal terms.

CIA posted this in a thread in the lobby about the Vatican, and I'm finally going to respond with what I will post here subsequently over the coming days or weeks.

...i try and get my head around this stuff as best i can!... but there is something that bugs me that i cant ... or dont know how to... explain!


...Isreal, Gods chosen people etc etc!.... is a kind of decoy!?... its focusing our attention away from Egypt!?... Egypt is the key to unlock our questions!.... probably think i`m nuts or thick!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)

One repeatedly reads (if they delve into this long enough) about these Illuminatti or British and European royalty claiming Mesopotamian roots. Then you have the first written texts of antiquity, cuneiform, which were found in Mesopotamia. There are step pyramids (Ziggurats actually) all around modern Iraq and Iran - even a famous one in Ur (Mesopotamia, or more correctly, Sumer, the birthplace of Abraham). Shall I say it .... civilization eminated from Sumer - it didn't just spring up in Egypt and the Indus Valley after that coincidentally, what would be the chances of that? So it's no surprise that pagan traditions and beliefs in far flung places would be similar.

WTF am I talking about!?? I wish I could shell it out in one post ... but it's too deep, there is just too much information.

But to elicit some interest, there are 12 constellations - through which the sun moves about, as per the theory forwarded in the Zeitgeist movie. Yes, sun worship is a big part of all this pagan stuff. But there is another way of looking at it I think, there is Draco, the dragon, I like to think of it as the 13th constellation, smack dab in the middle of these other 12 constellations, at true theoretical north (i.e. directly north if you correct for the earth's slow wobble). I will attempt to show that this identity of the dragon was adopted by the elite of early western civilization, which emenated from Sumer (identified also as Mesopotamia, Chaldea), and that these people, possessing superior ship-building, weapon-making, architectural and organizational expertise, were able to conquer indiginous peoples just about wherever they went. They left their mark from Egypt to Greece to France to Scandinavia to Britain to China ... And, if we try, we can trace their steps practically to the White House.

I decided not to post this in the religion section - because this has very little to do with religion actually ... at least not monotheistic religion. And since I seriously doubt there are too many hard-core pagans out there reading who I might offend, I'm just gonna stick this in 'research'.

More to come. For now, the stars. The pink circle in the image at the bottom of this post is the course the earth's axis traces as it wobbles - each precession from zodiacal age to age takes 2150 years, so for the earth to complete this wobble and come back to the same axial place takes a little over 25 thousand years. At the moment the north star is Polaris, but a few thousand years ago it was Thuban ...as the earth slowly "wobbles" the current north-star changes.

For anyone who has seen Zeitgeist, it should be plain that the ancient Egyptians understood this wobble of the earth's axis, and the precession of the ages. We are now in the age of Pieces, have been since around the time of Christ, and will be until 2150. That's why born-agains stick a fish on the back of their cars (without knowing why), it's why the pope's mitre looks like a fish's head when you look at it from the side.

(IMG:http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/922/picture2xn7.png)

(This is covered more or less in Zeitgeist.)

But what is amazing is that people thousands of years ago had a handle on this slow wobble of the earth's axis, the precession through the constellations as it were, and knew where true north was ... that is, north if you correct for this wobble, and that they saw a dragon there and identified themselves with it.

(While I've removed many stars and constellations for clarity, the relative positions of the stars below are correct and un-altered.)

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(12 + 1 = 13)

[Sanders]

(...Continued from above)

There's no other way to say this than to just blurt it out. Jesus was a king of the Egyptian branch of the dragon blood-line. Nazar (root of Nazareth) may simply mean dragon (and Jesus wasn't from there, if such a place existed, from what I understand).

Michael Tsarion lists the following terms as meaning serpent or dragon in various dialects.

Mayan - Nachan
Irish - Nathair (Nathrach, Nadder, Naase)
German - Natter
Cornish - Nader
Gothic - Nadr
Latin - Natrix

Nowhere below is this allegation explicitly supported, but, well, read for yourself.

...The Greek for this name is Nazoraioi, confused both with Nazarenoi (inhabitants of Nazareth) and with the Jewish sect of Nazarites; for Matthew 2:23 says that Jesus came and dwelt in Nazareth, that the Jewish prophecy that he should be called a Nazoraios might be fulfilled...

It would appear that the Jews claimed Jesus as a Nazarite [from Hebrew nazar to set apart, consecrate; cf nazar] Like the Ebionites, the Nazarenes were followers of true esoteric teachings, and occupied themselves in adapting these to what they found around them; so that scholars cannot make up their minds whether to call them Jews, Christians, Judizing Christians, heretics, or what not.

...So secretly did they preserve their beliefs from the very beginning, that Epiphanius who wrote against the Heresies in the14th century confesses himself unable to say what they believed in (i. 122); he simply states that they never mention the name of Jesus, nor do they call themselves Christians.

http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/ctg/n-nh.htm

Also interesting, the Nazarenes recognised only John the Baptist, whom they called the "Great Nazar". Interesting because St. Andrew, the namesake of the Arpad Hungarian king Andrew and the emblem of Scotland, was originally a disciple of John who spoke out unreservedly against the injustices of the Roman-state. John the Baptist got so under King Herod's skin that (as the story goes), at the request of his stepdaughter Salome Herod had the Baptist's head delivered to him on a plate.

From the above link I found this intriguing as well,

...Pliny and Josephus speak of the Nazarites as settled on the banks of the Jordan 150 years B.C. (Ant.Jud. xiii. p. 9); and Munk says that the "Naziareate was an institution established before the laws of Musah" or Moses.

Equating of the terms "Musah" and Moses tells me that the name Moses itself derives from Messeh, from which we get the word "Messiah", which just meant king - one annointed by the oil of the holy Egyptian/Sumerian crocodile, "Messeh".

Although I'm not religious, I am beginning to see this figure of Jesus in a completely different light. As a king of the ancient blood-line who bucked the Roman state, who stood for the "moral and social codes of a fair-minded, tolerant ministry, with the people as its benefactors" in a world where such concepts were totally alien, he must have been a great threat to the status quo. Dare I say it, it might be correct to think of him as an activist-truther, a revolutionary the likes of Gandhi, but who's elite-status by birthright trumped even that of the Emperor in Rome. In this way I can wrap my mind around the Christ event, and see why the Holy Roman Church went to such lengths to white-wash his story and why it sent shock waves reverberating through the centuries.

I must emphasise that the dragon represents the divine right of kings, and it's aspects both life-giving and warlike have been appropriated throughout history, justifiably or not, by those attempting to seize power or those trying to hang on to it. The emerging pagan rulers of proto-France were quick to appropriate Jesus' royal (dragon-messeh-messianic) lineage to strengthen their claim to rule over the former Roman Empire in Gaul.

If the Merovingians did in fact have a drop of Jesus-blood in them, it sure didn't affect their demeanor much. Talk about a violent lot! In the 6th century Clotaire and his brother Childebert seized the lands of their deceased brother Clodomir after killing his children. Clotaire's grandson Clotaire II followed suit when he killed his nephew Sigebert II, Dagobert I had both Clotaire II's son Charibert II and grandson Chilperic murdered, and finally Dagobert II met his demise, ostensibly by a lance through the eye at the hands of his own godson.

However, like the messianic kings who the Merovingians claimed as a part of their ancestry, they transfered power strictly by "messianic descent" i.e. by blood, which was a threat to the Church which passed power on by Apostolic tradition, i.e., bishops and popes were appointed. When a string of unremarkable Merovingian kings began to lose their grip in Gaul, the church stepped in, gradually shifting power away from the kings and into the hands of church appointed Mayors, the most conspicuous being Charles "The Hammer" Martel, who marked the transition from the Merovingian to the Carolingian lines. The Merovingian line didn't completely die out (their descendents must have gone somewhere), and Charles Martel's son Pepin (the "short") married Bertrada "broadfoot" de Laon, who was a Merovingian. Her genealogy is disputed, but two predominant theories both point to her being a direct Merovingian decendant.

I view the Pepin-Bertrada union as an attempt by the newcomer Carolingians to strengthen their royal authority. It should be noted that the tradition of messianic descendency by blood continued under the Carolingians, but that kings from then on had to be approved and annointed by the Church.

(See how futile it is to try and identify "good-guys" and "bad-guys"?)

Pepin and Bertrada had four children, one of which would become the legendary Charlemagne, King of the Franks.

Hang with me, we are getting to the end finally.

Rabbi Makhir was an Exilar of Babylon who was claimed to descend from the Davidic line of messianic Kings of Jerusalem. He emmigrated to the Languedoc region along the southern coast of France in the late 8th century during the reign of Charlemagne, where he and his descendents were given extensive lands and title. This is somewhat controversial, but many believe that Makhir assumed the Frankish name of Theodoric and had at least two children, Guillaume de Gellone, and Bertha d'Autun. Some also dispute Makhir's claim to Davidic descent, but his importance is not in question. In the centuries following the arrival of Makhir, the Cathars, a religious sect of French nobility that followed Kabbalah mysticism (many of whom were Makhir's descendents) appeared in the Languedoc region and spread to Toulouse and Aquitaine, and through son Guillaume and daughter Bertha, Makhir's blood flowed into the land-owning families of Anjou, Toulouse, Lusignan and Aquitaine, into practically every noble family in southern Europe that would thereafter be of any importance. You could even say that the entire French (as opposed to the Viking/Norman) portion of the blood of the future Templars, crusading knights, and most of the families who would rule Europe and England can be traced back to Makhir. There is even some speculation that Redburga, the great-great-(etc.) grandmother of Margaret wife of Malcom III of Scotland (who's daughter married King Henry I of England and who's son was David I of Scotland), was a daughter of Rabbi Makhir, which would make the connections mind-boggling. (Even if this isn't true, she was still a Carolingian in some respect, connecting her to the whole pantheon of European nobility in other ways.)

Are you following all this? I re-did my genealogy chart to show more explicitly how Makhir's children connect to the Counts & Dukes of Toulouse, Lusignan, Anjou, Aquitaine & Brittany. (200k)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7104/makhirbloodiw7.png

Glance over it, see how the lines of Makhir's children Guillaume and Bertha flow into (or sire) all of these houses, and how Makhir's line connects with the Carolingians both through his Carolingian wife and through his grandaughter Cunigundis. Re-read this post if you have to, read the Margaret posts if you haven't. I've been puttering around this for a year trying to figure this out, what I am about to disclose is is something I am certain the rulers of our society do not want you or I to know. The conclusion is undeniable.


Rabbi Makhir didn't just up and decide to move to France. He was sent for.

He was sent for by Charlemagne. (!!!) Charlemagne appealed to the Caliph of Baghdad for, and I quote from the 'Sefer ha-Qabbalah' written by the Spanish historian and scholar Abraham ibn Daud in 1161, "one of his Jews of the seed of royalty of the House of David. He hearkened and sent him one from there, a magnate and sage, Rabbi Makhir by name. And [Charles] settled him in Narbonne", end quote. (Narbonne is in Languedoc.)

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The 'Charles' refered to is Charlemagne, as other accounts confirm. It can't be Charles Martel, that Charles died in 741, too early. I have read one account that claims Pepin "the Short" (Charlemagne's father) was responsible for bringing Makhir to France, but it matters not. The Carolingians, who's connection to the Merovingians (one marraige, between Pepin and Bertada "broadfoot" - who's ancestry is disputed) and by extension the Davidic line of kings (if you believe the claims of the Merovingians about their descendency from Mary Magdalene) ... had dwindled to a mere thread. To boost the church-backed Carolingian kings' divine right to rule, Charlemagne (or Pepin) sent for fresh biblical blood, "seed of royalty of the House of David", not unlike a dog breeder sends to England for a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel to refresh the breed.

Now think about this in terms of our "Gogi" and "Egyptian" branches. The nobility of Gaul were almost exclusively of the Gogi branch, descended from mostly Goths and Franks. Makhir and his family provided a "booster-shot" of royal Egyptian dragon-blood, this was purposeful, as is evidenced by the account in the Sefer ha-Qabbalah, and by the lands and title showered on Makhir and his decendents, and by the Carolingian wife that Makhir took. And, the Franks made good use of Makhir's royal blood from the Holy Land, not only were all of the important royal houses of Europe in the centuries to follow traceable back to Makhir, when you factor in the blood of the Vikings and Viking-Sinclairs, this DNA pool produced the Templars, the crusader Kings of Jerusalem, and the royal families that built the modern world. No joke.


Oh and speaking of Melusine the mermaid, or, mer-men (like the mythical half sea-serpent father of Merovech, patriarch of the Merovingian kings), as well as symbology of the ruling-elite paraded in popular culture and, Madonna, ... for your entertainment. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)