The Dragon Blood-line
Jun 24 2008, 12:38 PM
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49
I wrote the posts in this thread (those under my name) as I embarked on a path of research, motivated purely by an intense curiosity, and I marked my discoveries along the way here in this thread. I was fascinated by the use of occult symbology in our media (and other clues), and the more I investigated the more I saw that the history, in fact "world-view" that we have all been told to accept is mostly balony. (I stand by that 100%.) However I concluded too fast that there was a linear connection between the self-annointed managers of our country (and, to a large and increasing degree, our planet) and an ancient "dragon" culture. And I have (somewhat mistakenly) described this culture as of a "conquering" nature in many of my posts. While I learned a great deal on my search for answers, and while the reader might find some of my posts interesting, I have discovered that my overriding view of the big picture was wrong.
The true dragons were a wise and just sub-race of Kings and Queens of antiquity, and they have been all but gone for a thousand years - exterminated by the Church and her clients, the long string of usurpers who traded loyalty to Rome in return for its (fraudulent) recognition of kinghood. The Templars were not dragons (I don't think), they were rather a military arm of the dragons, from whom they split and pursued their own interests. William the Conqueror may have had some dragon blood in him, but he was first a warrior and his loyalties lied with his own power-grab - he killed many true "dragons" (the elven Picts) during his brutal subjugation of the north of England - and, the descendents of his warrior co-usurpers from Normandy, "bully-boys" as they have been described, who comprised the moneyed-elite of America throughout much of its history, were no better despite their claims of blue-bloodedness. Far worse are the bankers, often the descendents of those Norman colonists, who have taken their place. None of these people who have caused so much anquish in pursuit of their own monetary gain throughout modern history are "true" dragons, though I suspect they cling to imagined thread-thin connections to those ancient families, while they have hijacked the symbology and 'religion' (for lack of a better word) of the ancient cults in pursuit of their own bloated vision of themselves as overlords of us "stupid sheep".
If you want to know about the true "dragon blood-line", don't bother with my drivel, read instead "The Dragon Legacy" or any other of the works of Nicholas de Vere.]
Here in Japan, people count things in 10's, it's an overwhelmingly metric country. Makes sense, we all have 10 fingers to count with. In the States, or in Britain I would assume, you buy a dozen donuts. 12 hours on the clock. 12 months in a year, 12 inches in a foot.
It would never have dawned on me that this was out of the ordinary, were I not living in Japan where nothing is counted by 12's. The number 13 crops up sometimes as well, actually there are 13 lunar cycles in a year. 13 original colonies, 13 stripes on the flag, 13 rows of bricks on the pyramid on the back of the dollar, 13 arrows in the Eagle's clutches (all obstensibly derived from the number of original colonies, but was it really all coincidence?). Also, there are 12 member banks in the Federal Reserve system, 12 stars on the EU flag. 12, or 13, depending on how you count, tribes of Israel. Jesus had 12 disciples. 4 suits in a deck of cards (the seasons?), each with 13 cards, bringing the deck total to 52 (52 weeks in a year??). And, apparently, there are 13 ruling families in the Illuminati, or 12 or 13 "Illuminati" heads.
Or what I don't know, but having listened to a radio interview given by George Szymanski with a woman who apparently has escaped from the Illuminati cult who calls herself "Svali", I'm all ears. Szymanski claims to have also talked to another woman in Italy 25 years ago who also escaped from the same cult, from whom he says he heard similar stories. That woman later committed suicide, succesfully on the third attempt. (Illuminati members, according to info posted by "Svali" on another website, are meticulously programmed from infancy, and committing suicide if they ever try to leave the "family" is one of the things that are imprinted onto their psyche.)
Here is a link to a site where you can get some brief info about who Svali is, and a link to her interview with George Szymanski.
I was always skeptical of this talk of the "Illuminati". Even Svali seems to prefer to refer to the orginization as the "family" or by other terms. There's just so much crap on the web, I'm just immediately turned off by these green-text over black-background websites covered with skulls and references to Satan in every paragraph.
One of the things that trips people up though, I think, is the word "Lucifer". Even Svali states in her interview with Szymanski that "Luciferianism" and Satanic worship are entirely different - I'm adding in my own commentary here, but Lucifer is another name for the planet Venus - the morning star, or harbinger of the coming sunrise ... hence the connection to "Illumination".
But hey, far be it for me to want to moderate on behalf of the people who are trying to rule the world and extinguish the spirit of Liberty in America, and around the world for that matter. These are evil people ... but only from the viewpoint of those of us who think of good and evil in accepted, normal terms.
CIA posted this in a thread in the lobby about the Vatican, and I'm finally going to respond with what I will post here subsequently over the coming days or weeks.
...i try and get my head around this stuff as best i can!... but there is something that bugs me that i cant ... or dont know how to... explain!
...Isreal, Gods chosen people etc etc!.... is a kind of decoy!?... its focusing our attention away from Egypt!?... Egypt is the key to unlock our questions!.... probably think i`m nuts or thick!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dunno.gif)
One repeatedly reads (if they delve into this long enough) about these Illuminatti or British and European royalty claiming Mesopotamian roots. Then you have the first written texts of antiquity, cuneiform, which were found in Mesopotamia. There are step pyramids (Ziggurats actually) all around modern Iraq and Iran - even a famous one in Ur (Mesopotamia, or more correctly, Sumer, the birthplace of Abraham). Shall I say it .... civilization eminated from Sumer - it didn't just spring up in Egypt and the Indus Valley after that coincidentally, what would be the chances of that? So it's no surprise that pagan traditions and beliefs in far flung places would be similar.
WTF am I talking about!?? I wish I could shell it out in one post ... but it's too deep, there is just too much information.
But to elicit some interest, there are 12 constellations - through which the sun moves about, as per the theory forwarded in the Zeitgeist movie. Yes, sun worship is a big part of all this pagan stuff. But there is another way of looking at it I think, there is Draco, the dragon, I like to think of it as the 13th constellation, smack dab in the middle of these other 12 constellations, at true theoretical north (i.e. directly north if you correct for the earth's slow wobble). I will attempt to show that this identity of the dragon was adopted by the elite of early western civilization, which emenated from Sumer (identified also as Mesopotamia, Chaldea), and that these people, possessing superior ship-building, weapon-making, architectural and organizational expertise, were able to conquer indiginous peoples just about wherever they went. They left their mark from Egypt to Greece to France to Scandinavia to Britain to China ... And, if we try, we can trace their steps practically to the White House.
I decided not to post this in the religion section - because this has very little to do with religion actually ... at least not monotheistic religion. And since I seriously doubt there are too many hard-core pagans out there reading who I might offend, I'm just gonna stick this in 'research'.
More to come. For now, the stars. The pink circle in the image at the bottom of this post is the course the earth's axis traces as it wobbles - each precession from zodiacal age to age takes 2150 years, so for the earth to complete this wobble and come back to the same axial place takes a little over 25 thousand years. At the moment the north star is Polaris, but a few thousand years ago it was Thuban ...as the earth slowly "wobbles" the current north-star changes.
For anyone who has seen Zeitgeist, it should be plain that the ancient Egyptians understood this wobble of the earth's axis, and the precession of the ages. We are now in the age of Pieces, have been since around the time of Christ, and will be until 2150. That's why born-agains stick a fish on the back of their cars (without knowing why), it's why the pope's mitre looks like a fish's head when you look at it from the side.
(This is covered more or less in Zeitgeist.)
But what is amazing is that people thousands of years ago had a handle on this slow wobble of the earth's axis, the precession through the constellations as it were, and knew where true north was ... that is, north if you correct for this wobble, and that they saw a dragon there and identified themselves with it.
(While I've removed many stars and constellations for clarity, the relative positions of the stars below are correct and un-altered.)
(12 + 1 = 13)
Feb 28 2009, 10:49 AM
Joined: 13-September 06
Member No.: 49
These next three crests drive to the heart of what this thread is about.
The first, the Stewarts, received lands and title in Shropshire, western England from the king, though not for service at the battle of Hastings. Both houseofnames and Wikipedia have the Stewarts (which was originally a title and not a surname, the name of the first Stewart in England was Alan FitzFlaad) moving to Shropshire from Brittany after the Norman invasion, though the two sources conflict as to whether FitzFlaad and his clan recieved their lands and title from William the Conqueror or his son Henry I. Wikipedia states that scholars are unsure if the family's heritage was Breton or Norman. I'd bet it was Norman - particularly since lands were bestowed on them despite not being present at Hastings. The House of Stewart supplied many Scottish and English monarchs. The reign of the House began when Walter, High Stewart of Scotland married Marjorie Bruce, daughter of King Robert I at the end of the 14th century and ended officially with Anne, Queen of all Britain at the beginning of the 18th century - quite a long time and quite a few kings and queens. Mary, Queen of Scots btw was a Stewart. I don't know where and why the Stewarts picked up the blue and white checks, nor may there be any way of knowing, but under the circumstances it's natural to assume this is a nod to Byzantine connections, maybe it was adopted after intermarriage with the Bruces, but that doesn't explain the checks (the significance of which will hopefully be apparent in a second).
I find it interesting to compare the various crests of the Stewarts, St. Clairs and Bruces. The British and French Sinclair and (St.) Claire crests are all Red-themed, there are several for the different branches of this family descended from Rollo the Viking and no blue is ever used. http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.fc/Orig...amily-crest.htm The Brusse and Bruce crests on the other hand are blue, and blue & red, respectively.
The Bruces, according to houseofnames, had their roots in Normandy, and have branches in Scotland, France and England. The English Bruces were seated in Yorkshire (as was the Bush family) and received their lands and title for distinguished service at the battle of Hastings from William the conqueror (who they followed to England from Normandy in 1066). It is around this time when Robert II le Brusse (the French form of the name) married Agnes St. Claire, joining these two noble Norman families. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4908/familieszk0.jpg
This, and I'm only guessing but this is an educated guess bordering on the obvious, is where Red gets added to the Blue and White Brusse crest. One can almost extrapolate in a general way that the Red themed crests denote Viking anscestry while Byzantine connections manifest in Blue, which generally fits a pattern which I have been seeing (and have talked about with regard to the Blue/White cross of Rangabe). Point is, the Norman Brusse family retains its all Blue and White crest while the English and Scottish Bruces use ones which mix elements of both Blue and Red, coinciding with marriage to the (Viking) Sinclairs.
Actually, I overstated, the blue and white French Brusse crest does include a small red rose .... which is interesting as well! One of the French St. Claire crests has three of them -
The second of these 3 blue and white checked crests is that of the Fulks. I will assume (and am almost certain from looking at the crest) that the family is an outcrop of the Fulks of Anjou. The first post in this series (above) points to the proposition that the Fulks were in fact the Phocas of Byzantium, which provides a pretty good hypothesis as to why the Italian Fulks use a blue and white theme, though I couldn't say why the crest of the German Fulks (which is gold and black) does not. Fulk V of Anjou was king of Jerusalem, and married Melisende (not to be confused with Melissene) of Armenian parentage and produced Geoffrey of Anjou, who married Matilda daughter of King Henry thus starting the Plantagenet line.
The third crest is that of the Cohens, who are not related to either the Fulks of Anjou or the Stewarts in any obvious way. Cohen is a distinguished Jewish name which derives from Kagan, which meant priest/king in Khazaria.
Obviously, something is going on here. One could reasonably suggest that at least in the case of Cohen the use of blue and white checks is merely a coincidence, but I think there's more to it, mainly because I am aware of the influence of Khazar descendents among the elite of Byzantium following the collapse of the Khazar empire, and I know this from looking through the family trees of various Byzantine emperors from this time (the era immediately preceding William's invasion of England and the Crusades). Maybe the key lies in Armenia, I'm not sure. Maybe I need to look into the Hohens, who used Red and White checks in their crest, identical to the Cohen crest exept for the color change.
Admittedly, I present more questions than answers (which is nothing new!), but I found it very interesting that these three crests of prominent families which would seem to be unconnected in any way would share the same blue and white checks.
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