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The Dragon Blood-line

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post Mar 4 2012, 12:26 AM
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I'm trying to work out the genealogy of the early nobility of Europe ... but, working to pay the bills takes a lot of my time.

However, I have this much (unfinished of course) to show you .... believe me, I haven't been idle.

http://ericwestfall.com/CompleteGenealogy.png

Purple lines denote speculative connections.

Rurik likely was from the same "Varangian" family of the Robertians of Hesbay. Rurik is rendered in western tongues as 'Rodrick', implying descent from Rodbert. "Igor", Rurik's son, is a Slav rendition of Ingvar, i.e. Inger. I look at these "Varangians" not so much as a people but an extended FAMILY, one that is part Avar and part Germanic (Angle) ... Avar + Angian. Redburga was likely descended from Rotbert, there is an entry in the annals whereby she is noted as a "sister of the French King" ... most think she was a sister of Charlemagne, but, she, I and others think, was rather a sister IN LAW of the French king at the time, Louis, thus the sister of Ermingarde.

Redburga married Egbert, the (1st) English King while he was in exile, who was introduced to her at Charlemagne's court. The name "Redburga" is a very plausible female descendant of 'Rotbert', the patriarch of the Robertians. "Rot" of course means red.

Inger was, of course, the husband of Melissina, real-world 'Melusine' of myth and Starbucks fame and granddaughter of Michael Rangabe ... er, Makhil ... er, Makhir the Exilarch of Narbonne, grandson of Judah Zakkai/Eudes of Aquitaine. (!!!!????!!??)

Inger's parentage is unknown ... but, the "Inger" name gives us clues. I think he was the son of Redburga and Inger was named for her father.

I haven't filled in yet the ancestry of Procopia, wife of Makhir II/Michael Rangabe, but it's impressive. She carried the blood of Khazar Kagans, Bulgar Khans and Hun Kings going back to China and, ostensibly, their beginnings before that in the Holy Land. This is why I believe Melusine's dual fish/serpent tails represent the merging of East and West branches of the dragon blood line by her marriage to Inger.
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post Mar 4 2012, 08:01 PM
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Great chart brother Sanders...

One day...your books will pay the bills and you will be set free.

It worked for me...
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post Mar 5 2012, 02:33 AM
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I guess, .... all I have to do is write them.

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post Mar 5 2012, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE (Sanders @ Mar 4 2012, 09:33 PM) *
I guess, .... all I have to do is write them.

Keep up the good work. Things will work out!
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post Mar 5 2012, 11:37 PM
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Thanx, man. Updated chart, I've since included Fred and Pebbles. Bamm-Bamm will be forthcoming ... Albert "the Bear", the Margraves of Brandenburg.

(To those a bit confused, the major Germanic houses which took turns ruling as Holy Roman Emperors in the High Middle Ages were, apparently, immortalized in the characters of the Flintstones ... how they ™ flaunt the stories of their ancestors in our culture!!!)

http://ericwestfall.com/FlintstoneGenealogy.png

Oh, I've corrected the Robertians - that is a really difficult branch, that no one apparently has been able to get right. I think this is the correct genealogy, thanks in part to a French website I found.

These "Robertians" are the remnant in Moravia & Bavaria (mixed with the new royal Avar arrivals) of the Merovingians.

In conclusion, I think Vladimir I was named after Waldrat, cementing a connection between the Robertians and the Grand Princes of Kiev (officially VAR-ANGIANS).

Behold the coat of Vlad.

http://www.houseofnames.com/vlad-family-crest

That's not a Jewish symbol, it's a pagan symbol, denoting the dualistic principals of the Kabbalah. It was foisted on the Jewish people in the late 19th century, just as the Zionist push toward creating a Jewish state in Palestine emerged. You can't make this stuff up. ... Things are not as they seem.
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post Mar 6 2012, 03:28 PM
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Sanders,

What do you know about the “Kingdom of Lower Burgundy” aka Kingdom of Arles?

Arles goes back to 800 BC and was an important Phoenician trading post.

Near the town of Arc on the Ardeche River we find the “Chauvet Cave” showing the thick necked “Horse”. These caves are over 28,000 year’s old and apparent birthplace to Art.

I have two points and #1 is the use of “Ar” and the second is the Phoenician + Horse connection.

Egypt dating is out to lunch!


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post Mar 7 2012, 02:44 AM
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Sorry, I don't know anything about Arles, but I have seen it mentioned repeatedly in my research of recent. I DO know that the Nebilingun of Norse etta and Wagner opus fame were Burgundian, and that the Merovingians were there ... both when they controlled their kingdom and even more so after they were displaced by the Peppinids. The seat of those ancestors of the Robertians in the middle of my chart was probably Burgundy/Moravia (Moravia named for the Merovingians probably).

Autun was in Burgundy -so, what you have is a Jewish exilarch taking a Peppinid wife and given title over lands in Merovingian/Nebilung Burgundian country, then "conquered" Avars populating the surrounding area ... and, judging by coats of arms, Makhir may have been an Avar himself.

I can't say what this all means, other than the following:

Catharism in southern France, a "Gnostic" dualistic sect, spread from Autun (in Burgundy), nearby Toulous and the Lanquedoc, which Makhir (both father & son) ruled and defended as client Dukes of the Franks @ Aachen.

The Cathars and the Templars were cozy.

Catharism was violently exterminated by the Catholic church, and less than a century later the Templars were quashed as well.

Both Catharism and the Templar Order persisted in secret, and together may be at the root of our global elite ... they were definitely among the hidden anscestors of European nobility, many of the early Crusader Knights (before the Crusade against the Cathar threat to Catholic thought) were Cathars.

The Frank capital was Aachen, while the center of the Jewish (Avar?) client state was Autun. Neaby was Nevers. Aachen-Autun ... Akhenatun?????!!!??? And Nevers a rendition of Nefertiti??? - or, all coincidence?
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post Mar 10 2012, 04:11 PM
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Sea Dragon



[Below] Hippocampus is found the shallow water near Grado, Italy close to where the Troy survivors landed.

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post Mar 11 2012, 01:28 AM
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Yes, Venice & Friuli were the Trojan kingdom reborn in northern Italy. Eric of Friuli helped Peppin (they were related by marriage) conquer the Avars, with the help of "western Avars". What does that mean? Could it mean, Avars already in Gaul??? - Because, if Makhir (the father) was an Avar, he would have already had his kingdom in Languedoc & Autun BEFORE Peppin & Eric overtook the Ring Fortress of the greater Avar kingdom.

I think Makhir (and Juddah/Eudes before him) were Avars, and, in addition, "Exhilarchs" (Exhilarchs were supposed to be ensconsed at Babylon, but the Avars were clearly Hebrew ... with Kagans named Abraham & Isaac???) because of the distinct "Avar Cross" that appears in bloodlines traceable only to Makhir, who was most definitely a Jewish prince of Narbonne.

99% of readers won't know what the h@ll I'm talking about ... naturally, because it's a mostly ignored footnote of history ... but I've been chasing this dragon for nearly 10 years, and everything points me to this singular misty point in history - the merging of the Merovingian line and the Jewish priest-kings descended from David, thence appropriated by the Carolingians. Why did Joseph Biden proclaim that he was a Zionist? This is why. Why were the Obamas named in an article concerned with the price of real-estate in Manhattan as having recommended to Evelyn Rothschild, probably the richest and most powerful person in the world, and his new wife, their own favored interior decorator? Back in 2001 before the Obama name meant anything to anyone? This is why.

I just learned that Sigisbert, son of the murdered Dagobert II, was smuggled out of the Frank kingdom to the Languedoc just 40 or 50 years before Makhir was made Prince of that kingdom in southern France. I had been looking at the names of the supposed (all controversial) Merovingian princesses who married Peppinids, the line of Charlemagne, the line which supplanted the Merovingians (by the murder of Dagobert). Two, at least, are named Bertha, or Bertrada, implying, indeed demanding, a connection to Bertha of Autun, the daughter of Makhir the Jewish Exhilarch. So, were these princesses that the Peppinids were marrying (to strengthen their perceived right to rule) Merovingians? As is proclaimed??? Or, where they related to Makhir, the Prince of the Jewish Kingdom of Languedoc, whose granddaughter was named Bertha? .... or, BOTH???

I think, maybe, both.

Chew on THAT!
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post Mar 11 2012, 01:41 AM
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Oh, I should have mentioned, elreb I'm sure you know this, Venice, next to Friuli, is named for the Veneti/Heneti, a Trojan tribe ... and the Romans named their version of Astarte/Aphrodite (Lucifer), sister of Chronus/El (Saturn/Satan) after them ... Venus.

(I think I got that right??? smile.gif

And Venus rises from the sea on a scallop shell, scallop - scale - skull all having the same etymological root - and we're right back where we started ... the dragon and its significance with regard to the priest-kings of antiquity and, incredibly, our own ruling elite.

Wheeew.
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post Mar 11 2012, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE (Sanders @ Mar 10 2012, 08:41 PM) *
elreb I'm sure you know this, Venice, next to Friuli, is named for the Veneti/Heneti, a Trojan tribe ...

This is correct. The entire 20 mile long lagoon of Grado is considered to be Adriatic Veneti. The original port is most likely underwater.

For the record…hippocampus means “Hippo” = horse and “Kampos” = sea monster.

Do to living in shallow water and grass beds, they would have been spotted and caught by the local fisherman.

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post Mar 11 2012, 11:55 PM
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Personally, I believe that folks like Sanders, Lunk, Tamborine man, Ground Pounder, Amazed and several others…Understand the reality of reality.

Reality is dragon blood…

Look into Bill Maher's take on the current state of world religion = Religulous!

Red necks are “Stupid”!
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:13 PM
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I always imagined (over the last few years at least) that there were two forces, colliding and competing through the centuries, behind the scenes - the Hermetic, Gnostic, partly Jewish and/or Kabbalic, and by virtue of their ancient heritage conquering cultured elite on the one side (represented by the Templars, Rosicrucians & Freemasons etc.) and, on the other, the Catholic Church, battling it out for supremacy.

I just read Holy Blood Holy Grail. I am revising my beliefs. There are three.

The above mentioned Hermetic and Catholic arch-enemies, plus one other element, who successfully hijacked both and are in charge today. The third is a very evil force and can boast tenative roots in the Hermetic branch and possibly in both camps.

They draw on these "tenative roots" to self-justify their actions, which are sometimes quite abominable (WWI, WWII, Vietnam, 9/11 et al), but, I think, they are, while connected to those traditions, actually usurpers of the true dragon-elite.

True History is truly chaotic, and this outcome, while not very pretty, is exactly what one would expect.
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:25 PM
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Careful there elreb, I'm a redneck - descended from full-on hillbillies of West Virginia. And, the elite strategy for pulling off their one-world-government goal is to appeal to the liberal/democratic ideal of "equality for all" - not just equal opportunity, but equal rewards - i.e. socialism. We know that the bankers of America in the early 20th century funded the Russian Revolution, we know from Norman Dodd that one of the goals of the tax-exempt foundations (Ford, Rockefeller, Carnegie) was to "alter life in the US so it could be comfortable merged with the Soviet Union".

What's Obama trying to do?

Nudge us closer to that goal - dependence on the state, the erasure of American Liberty as it was established by the founders.

Obama is a tool, the "good cop" in a blatant but "on such a grand scale no one would notice" "bad cop-good cop" routine. Bush was the "bad-cop". Set him loose, let him start wars and embarass the US to the extent that Obama would be welcomed as a savior ... which he was.

These machinations behind the scenes are not so hard to figure out. I doubt however, that either Bush or Obama even understand(/understood) it. They were both chosen because they could be counted on, without much prodding, to play their roles.
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post Mar 13 2012, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (Sanders @ Mar 12 2012, 06:25 PM) *
Careful there elreb, I'm a redneck -

I once did a job in Jacksonville, Florida and a young 260 pound “Red Neck” came up and called me a “Yankee”.

I whipped around and stated that I was from south Florida and born in South Carolina…so how does that make me a Yankee?

His answer was, “Cause you isn’t one of us!”

I replied, “Thank god for that…we graduate from school where I come from.”

Bluegrass, country folk, banjo music…is not the same as uneducated “white trash” who are generally racists and violent.

To be honest, I do not believe I ever met a “Red Neck” that could read and write Japanese. What we call “Hog Boys”…are lucky to read and write American. laugh.gif
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post Mar 14 2012, 12:14 AM
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Well, elreb, you have finally met (by meeting me) a full-on hillbilly/redneck who speaks and reads Japanese.

When I have been around my West Virginian kin for a bit my speech reverts to its roots, and I start sounding like a "hillbillly".

From what I can remember from my youth, the "hillbilly" influence into my consciousness was all about food ... healthy food. Delicious food from the garden, OUR OWN garden.

The paradise of West Virginia, which my ancestor had a part in settling in 1700, became a war of the classes with the discovery of coal there.

But, while they slaved for generations to pull the coal out of the hills, they aren't stupid. No more than the media elite of Hollywood. I worked in Hollywood for 20 years, and I know them both --- I prefer the decendents of the coal-miners of my ancestry.




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West Virginia, I believe was the only state to have separated itself from a mother State during the Civil War.

My family is almost exclusively Germans who formed the 1714 and 1717 colonies of Germanna in Virginia. Over time they spread to Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Indiana...Ohio and finally made it to Missouri by 1830.

They were mostly craftsmen/tradesmen including toolmakers, blacksmiths, wagon makers and saddle makers. Almost everyone had a farm and was self-sufficient.

They fought in every war…even before 1750.

I do not recall anyone speaking with an accent.

At best, we call ourselves…Pioneers.

PLEASE NOTE:

Nature is not a monoculture and does not put all its eggs in one basket.

We should learn from that and return to self-sufficiency.
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This is a picture of my Mother and her grand-father. He was over 6’7’’ tall. [Good Viking material] thumbsup.gif

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Jamie Johnson film “Born Rich” and “The One Percent” prove Sanders point.

Films include: Robert Reich, Bill Gates Sr, Milton Friedman, Paul Orfalea, Adnan Kashoggi, James Hughes Jr, Steve Forbes, Ralph Nader and Nicole Buffett.

This is a first hand account where the wealthy believe that god gave them the money and to hell with mankind. wink.gif
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post Mar 23 2012, 01:51 AM
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I'm working on a presentation. It will be titled 'Uroko', Japanese for 'Scale'. Things I'm finishing now, include, a genealogy from the Russell (Hugh de Rozel) that fought at Hastings. Hugh de Rozel's son, or grandson?, was one of the founding 9 knights of the Templar Order. He in turn was the ancestor of the Russell family of New Haven that dominated the opium trade between New England and China (with the expressed permission of the British East India Comapany), making a fortune and soon after founding the Skull & Bones fraternity at Yale, from which emerged the grandfather, father & son Bushes.

I have been able, with the available records, to trace these Russells back, whether historically or aprophically (doesn't really matter - THEY seem to believe it) ... to Abraham.

I have a quote from an insignificant book written by a Pierpont about his own family's genealogy (J.P.Morgan's middle name was Pierpont, after his mother) - claiming the Pierponts to be of the blood of Abraham.

I suspect the same is true for all the noble Norman-British families that arrived soon after the Pilgrims, made fortunes selling slaves and opium, founded the great Ivy-League schools and, with the help of Jewish Germanic bankers in England, Paris, Frankfurt and Hamburg, took over our currency and finally our country.

In the course of my research, I identified the Boston Brahmin families (Cabot, Lowell, Perkins, Higginson) as being the top of a pyramid-like and incestuous Genealogy of British-sympathetic traitors of the Revolution era whose descendents, literally, but over many decades and long struggle, were finally able to take over this country.

They didn't just take control of the government, they took control over the media and the educational system in our Nation. This is clear from Norman Dodd's interview with G. Edward Griffin. It all happened during the same period of time, in the years following WWI, which "they" fomented for very interesting reasons. (If you're a bit lost, watch my movie - it's on Youtube under the title Uroko.)

But yeah, these families have been incestuously breeding for a thousand years, they emerged from the ashes like the Phoenix after their near-destruction at the hands of the Roman Catholic Church in the dark ages, in the guise of the Freemasons and the Rosicrucians. These weren't necessarily bad people at that time, but the Bavarian Illuminati came along in the late 18th century and infitrated their ranks, ultimately hijacking those institutions and altering their goals. (This is the actual story coursing beneath the plot of Del Toro's film 'Pan's Labarynth')

They run our Council on Foreign Relations, they put on the Bohemian Grove celebrations, they run the yearly Bilderberg meetings, they brand people like me, through their control over the media, as a "nut-job".

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