The Dragon Blood-line Options

[elreb]

I think my pineal gland developed from eating placenta. A lot of maternal blood flow to the placenta.

Melatonin, produced in the pineal gland acts as an endocrine hormone since it is released into the blood.

You add in a priest hood and you begin to develop a bloodline. Here is where the sons of darkness come into play with the sons of light.

[23investigator]

I think my pineal gland developed from eating placenta. A lot of maternal blood flow to the placenta.

Dear 'elreb'.

When do you think you became, 'conscious', of your, 'pineal gland'?

Robert S

[elreb]

When do you think you became, 'conscious', of your, 'pineal gland'?

Wrong question!

I became a seer when I was around 28 years old.

This is when I started eating placenta.

I was never aware of a pineal gland.

I knew things that no one else ever heard of.

I was never normal or average by any standard.

Tell me what year, what country and what race…you want to know about.

[Sanders]

Elreb, you dog!!!

You are ingesting bodily substance which is turning you into a 'dragon'!!! How wild is that?

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The cocktail of hormones which the grail ritual evolved to harvest, through meditative practice, was mostly melatonin, with seratonin,tolermase and other benificial hormones also generated in varying amounts. This cocktail, apparently, in addition to raising the recipient to a higher plane mentally, embued him or her with powerful antioxidants, which staved off illness and the aging process (even Wikipedia admits this). Also, regular ingestion of these mind-altering hormones also had the side affect of making the skin translucent (working to the opposite affect of Melanin), hense, "the shining ones".

The Cathars, referred to in sources as "the pure ones", occupying southern France where Makhir, an Exilarch once ruled and where, long before that, the (venerated by the Templar Knights and other Gnostics) wife of Jesus, Mary, is believed to have fled after the crucifixion, were exterminated by the Catholic Church during the 'Albigensian Crusade'.

Let's look at that word - Albi-gen-sian. A crusade against a genetically unique people (whose culture threatened the Church and the lies they were shoving down the throats of gullible peasants in Europe) who are, in this word, called "Albi".

Who are the Albi? Alb is a variation of Alf, the 'F' and the 'B' being, as it is in many tongues, interelated (In Japanese, I know, a "Fu" sound becomes "Bu" when it follows certain sounds, or when two small slashes are added to the character). We can see 'Alf' in the names of some pre-Norman invasion kings of England, such as Alf-Red (Alfred) the Great. Alf, in turn, is a variation of 'Elf' (or vice versa). In fact, the Albigensian Crusade was the Crusade against the Elves, the church's crusade to exterminate the elven dragons (the "pure ones") in southern France.

There's another word in our dictionary which confirms that this is all the case. Remember, that the true dragons/elves had pale (from their lineage) and translucent (from melatonin ingestion) skin.

'Albino', a word deriving from "elf" and attached to people with a starkingly fair complexion.

[23investigator]

Wrong question!

I became a seer when I was around 28 years old.

This is when I started eating placenta.

Dear 'elreb'

Will you excuse me this, natural question.

What brought you about, to start 'eating placenta',

where-ever did you get it from.

Robert S

[elreb]

What brought you about, to start 'eating placenta',

The key word is Placentophagy

Most placental mammals participate in placentophagy, including, herbivorous ones.

For no special reason, I thought I would give it a shot. My kids were all born at home.

I'm sort of a farm doctor.

Have you heard of the tribe in Madagascar that eats foreskins?

[elreb]

Elreb, you dog!!!

Not sure if I would claim to be a “Dragon”, yet my bloodline does go back to the correct location.

In the Boy Scouts, I taught Wilderness survival and we ate many strange things like snakes, alligators and spiders! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Sanders]

Snakes, alligators and spiders, yummmm!!!

Uhm, I've come to the conclusion (I not sure about this but I suspect it...) that there were all sorts of "dragons". Melatonin ingesting "elven" dragons (the druids would be an example), who were I suspect the superior sub-race to which Jesus and Mary of Magdela belonged and which the church targeted for extermination well over a thousand years ago, at the other extreme another sort which drank the blood of their fallen foes in battle - there is much evidence for this practice - in order to get, not the mind-expanding hormones that elven royalty were after, but adrenalin and testosterone, the levels of which were high in the "just-killed" donors during the heat of battle, in order to strengthen the warrior (as well as everything in between those two types). Drinking the blood of adrenalin and testosterone-rich recently killed warriors would have yielded a different sort of "high", and I suspect that the Vikings (as we refer to a plethora of Germanic tribes) as well as their cousins, the many "Hunnic" tribes, were into this other sort of "hormone harvesting" ... and, that this is the origin of the phrase "bloodthirsty". The term, I suspect, didn't originate as a metaphor, for a wild-eyed fearless warrior who wanted to "see" blood spurting from his victim, but one who actually wanted to DRINK it!!!

The Vikings carved dragon-heads onto the bows of their ships, and a serpent was coiled in the roots of their version of the Tree of Life (/knowledge), Yggdrasil. Further, the leaders of the whole pantheon of Germanic barbarian tribes, at least apocryphally, can be traced to the Trojan Kings, who in turn may well descend from Darda, twin of Pharez and son of Judah (and there's lots of circumstantial evidence to support this).

I can only guess that over the many centuries certain rulers found that they could take better advantage of the blood-drinking ritual by targeting those hormones that would help them in battle, as opposed to targeting melatonin and the nirvana-like high-perception level through the grail ritual which Nicholas de Vere describes ... and, that the Viking/Norman/Hun-type of "dragons" were the ultimate result (of a focus on getting hormones to aid in battle, as opposed to spiritual enlightenment). Additionally, these families, the Viking/Norman/Hun sort, tended to ally with the Catholic Church, in return for the church's endorsement of their crowns. (These are the ancestors of the families that took over America over a century ago, by the way.)

Armed with this angle in relation to the larger picture, I think the reader will get much more out my above post about Margaret. There was a struggle going on there, about what kind of "dragons" were going to be the rulers of England.

There's another wrinkle in the big picture. Pharez and Darda both were of the line of Abraham - of the line of Seth. But Jesus, Solomon, the whole Davidic line, and apparently, the real elven dragons, were of the line of Cain, not Abraham's line, but the line of Seth's brother, Cain.

[elreb]

The oldest book of the new testament is said to be Mark that was written around 64 to 70 AD.

It starts off like this:

1 The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God, as it is written in Isaiah the prophet:

Voice of one calling in the wilderness surface you way of Yahweh make straight you in the gorge highway for Elohim of us every ravine he shall be lifted up and every mountain and hill they shall be low and he becomes the crooked to straight and the knobs to valley and he is revealed glory of Yahweh and they see all of flesh together that mouth of Yahweh he spake.

Isaiah was talking about Cyrus…Perseus…

The false Jesus never existed...

Please help me understand why you believe in someone who never existed!

[Sanders]

I only write about things I think I can discern and understand. I do not understand that Jesus=Cyrus and that Jesus never existed. You have not convinced me. Maybe I'm not smart enough, or have enough free time to do the research? ... I don't necessarily doubt it, but I don't embrace it either.

On the larger stage, I don't see where it matters greatly. I'm confused about the 'warrior' dragon lineage of the Vikings, their Norman descendants and the later's alliance with the Church, and the apparent conspiracy between the two to destroy the "elvin" dragons, Merovingians included, of a more just age. Feudalism was an oppressive system instituted by the Normans. The families which hijacked this country, America, in order to suppress the historically revolutionary idea of personal freedom and sovereignty, were 90% Norman, from ancestors who fought with Duke William at Hastings.

Then there's the Freemason factor.

These Normans were all descended from Vikings, who were, in turn, "dragons". But of a different sort, I believe, - a conquering blood-thirsty variant, and they ultimately prevailed. This is relevant to me, and so this is what I try to learn about and chase down. I don't see where Cyrus' true identity is all that important in regard to the large picture.

You have to remember, I started this journey trying to understand the people behind the hoax that was 9/11, their motivation, their nature, and their history.

[elreb]

On the larger stage it does matter because Cyrus was a super dragon.

Cyrus no only fits “Your” story…he is the story.

He was out of the House of David, he was a Prophet and he was a Messiah. His spiritual father was Amen/Zeus.

He is well documented in the Isaiah Scroll, the Elephantine papyrus, the Cyrus Cylinder, Herodotus, the Cyropaedia of Xenophon

Many aspects of “The Education of Cyrus" would become a model for medieval writers of the genre known as mirrors for princes.

In turn it was a strong influence upon the most well-known but atypical of these, Machiavelli's “The Prince”, which was an important influence in the rejection of medieval political thinking, and the development of modern politics.

The aim was at glory or honor and associating these goals with a need for "virtue" and "prudence".

The first thing out of the “Gospel of Mark” is the reference to the Messiah of Isaiah, which was Cyrus.

The Akhmim Codex was found in the town of Cyrus [Akhmin, Egypt] and included the Gospel of Mary, the Apocryphon of John, The Sophia of Jesus Christ, and an epitome of the Act of Peter.

It was “Cyrus” who was born of a virgin, performed miracles, founded the Church, died sacrificially by crucifixion, and euphemistically rose from the dead.

NOW HOLD ON TO YOUR SOCKS

John the Baptist or Yohanan was actually…

Johanan: the fifth Jewish high priest after the rebuilding of the temple in Jerusalem [Elephantine] by the Jews who had returned from the Babylonian captivity. His reign is estimated to have been from 410 to 371 BC.

Flavius Josephus records that Johanan's brother Jesus was promised the high priesthood by Bagoses, general of Artaxerxes.

Jesus got in a quarrel with Johanan in the temple and Johanan killed him. [401 BC]

Bagoses knew that Johanan had slain Jesus in the temple saying to him "Have you had the impudence to perpetrate murder in the temple."

Johanan the High Priest is actually mentioned in a letter found with the Elephantine papyrus in 407 BC.

[elreb]

If you really want something to stew on check this out.

There was once an Israeli commando named Yonatan "Yoni" Netanyahu.

Yonatan is a form of Jonathan who was the son of Saul.

“Yo” and “Yah” are forms of Yahu or Yahweh

Atan can also be Aton or Aten

I would not be surprised to discover that “Yah” is a form of “Rah” as in the sun god Ra/Re

In Maui “Rah” is spelled “Lah” as in Lahaina or land of the Sun.

In effect you could have “Rah-Aten” who just so happens to be the god of Akhenaten/Akhenaton.

Akhenaton also known as Amenhotep IV and came from the house of Amen who was Zeus.

Per-Zeus means house of Zeus

Perseus was the “son of god” by Zeus and the “virgin” Danaë.

Jesus [HeyZeus] was the “son of god” by Yahu and the “virgin” Mary.

Perseus was actually Cyrus the Great.

THIS IS A NO BRAINER...

[elreb]

What I find baffling is that it is OK to believe in:

Big foot, the loch ness monster, Xenu coming to earth in a DC-8, Joseph Smith reading rocks in his hat, god having sex with women, dead people coming back to life, men from Mars and ghosts…

But then someone comes along to tell you the “Truth” and you reject it.

I just do not get it?

[Sanders]

Well, you're finally getting somewhere. I think, elreb, that your brain is too big ... and you go right over our heads so much of the time. No one can just jump from A to H without hitting those letters in between, otherwise "H" seems absurd. But that was informative, and I will try and hit the books.

Thanx

[23investigator]

What I find baffling is that it is OK to believe in:


I just do not get it?

Dear 'elreb'

Perhaps you need to have a 'real good think', why you 'dont' get it', if you truly don't.

Robert S

[elreb]

Perhaps you need to have a 'real good think'

I feel as if I am living in a mirror and looking out into a world that is in reverse.

Why do people have brains, if they do not intend to use them?

What happen to “honor”, "virtue" and "prudence"?

From the top down, humans lie, steal and kill for greed and power.

Then they justify by using god as their justification. It’s all backwards.

[elreb]

Well, you're finally getting somewhere. I think, elreb, that your brain is too big

Sanders,

As I hope you know by now…all the stories I come up with…come out of my own head.

I’m guessing that I am the only person on this planet that is an old school “Seer”.

I don’t talk to god and I don’t hear voices in my head.

It’s the simple ability to maintain the mind and reach a state of prestige as a personal being relying on the clever use of reason and communication and unschooled personal response.

The “Sun” gives us warmth and light but it could care less about your finances or personal problems.

What am I saying? The government and churches could care less either!

[elreb]

Sanders…you just kick back and I will get you 100,000 views…

So far, I have Jesus, Perseus, Akhenaten and Cyrus as the base of most stories.

Greek did not use “J”

Hebrew

Elohim = Aleim = god

Aur = light

ieue = Yahweh = Yahu

Greek

iesous = Jesus

Theou = god

Chistou = anointed

Kuriou = master Kuruš /kuros/ Koresh

ioannou = John

ioudaia = Judea

iordane = Jordan

ierosolum = Jerusalem

ouranous = heaven

[elreb]

I think I may have received some enlightenment...

Aur = light may relate to Ur – Urim – Uru - all from Sumer/Summer

Ur could relate to the never ending light or sunlight?

In effect “Ra” could be the Sun and Aur or Ur could be the sunlight…later called “Aten” (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Sanders]

We're contemplating completely different lines of thought, but I remind that AVR (the Avars were also called the Uars), meant 'Light' in Hebrew, as Elreb notes above.

The word Avar is also connected to "elvenness" in various myths - Avallon of the Arthurian myths, and Avari of Tolkien to name two. Also, Avallon-like terms are routinely linked etymologically to the word 'apple', a fruit (actually the link between gods and man) which dragons were fond of guarding.

A prominent symbol of the grail ritual is the labyrinth and similar mazes, or alternately, the swastika. The maze at whose center lied Melusine's fountain (where she performed her part of the grail ritual for her de Vere consort) was formed in the shape of a swastika.

If you look at examples of Avar jewelry, which have been dug up in the Carpathian basin, you'll notice the prevalence of an ornate, curvy swastika motif. The annals record that the shield that Oleg, the cousin (actually, I think he was his uncle?) of Vladimir I, who like Oleg was a "Varangian", famously nailed to the gates of Constantinople, was painted with a swastika symbol.

There are lots of other little clues, the similarity of the "Var" in Varangian to Uar or Avar (Varangian being, ostensibly, a merging of Avar and Angevin royal clans), the fleur-de-lis tipped crosses on conspicuous coats of Arms (Rangabe, Bouillon, Anjou) where an identical cross was apparently dug up in Carpathia and attributed to the Avars, all of which I have discussed here.

But the swastika's connection to the grail ritual is relatively new to me, and strengthens the possibility that the "grail maidens" that the Peppinids intermarried with to make their line, both in perception and in practice, more "royal", were Avars.

This hypothesis is made doubly interesting by the enigma that is the Avery and Averell families in America. I have completed an extensive genealogical tree of American aristocracy, from about Plymouth Rock to the passage of the Federal Reserve Act. If I take a step back and survey the genealogical landscape, it seems like the males of families like Root, Russell, Rockefeller, and most noticably, Morgan, over many generations, were practically falling over themselves to marry Avery or Averell girls, despite the fact that the Averys and Averells were not terribly rich or conspicuous in commerce or politics.

I'm guessing that these, mostly Norman (with the exception of Morgan and Roquefeil/Rockefeller), families, Nicholas de Vere I think would categorize them as "tinker" families, wanted to get some real "dragon" blood in the veins of their offspring.