The Dragon Blood-line Options

[Sanders]

Ahahh!

Why wouldn't they be like the Pharaohs? - They were not so far in blood, nor time.

[23investigator]

Ok, so now you are starting to see Jesus I and Jesus II…the father and the son.

Dear 'elreb'

Makes the 'head spin' doesn't it.

None the less, those who experience "Jesus" in their life, aren't particularly 'fussed' either way.

Robert S

[elreb]

None the less, those who experience "Jesus" in their life, aren't particularly 'fussed' either way.

Look carefully at the dates:

Traditionally the seven sages [philosophers] [hoi hepta sophoi] of Greece were =

Cleobulus of Lindos: 600 BC.

Solon of Athens: 638-558 BC

Chilon of Sparta: 600 BC

Bias of Priene: 600 BC

Thales of Miletus: 624 BC – c. 546 BC

Pittacus of Mytilene: 640-568 BC

Periander of Corinth: 627 BC

Once you have read the “Nag”, you will discover that men were men and not gods.

The core principle was to seek and pray for “Wisdom”. Neither god nor Hay-Zeus was intended to be magic wishing machines…

Humans should be fussing over that!

[elreb]

Why wouldn't they be like the Pharaohs? - They were not so far in blood, nor time.

What makes you think they were not the Pharaohs?

Same blood...same time...

The Seven lovers of Wisdom lived between 620 – 550 BC

In 546 BC at the battle of Thymbra, close to 120,000 Egyptian heavy infantry, plus 300 chariots surrendered to Cyrus the Great.

In 540 BC, Babylon surrenders to Cyrus the Great and proclaimed him "king of Babylon, king of Sumer and Akkad, king of the four corners of the world" which included Egypt.

Cyrus the Great left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion where because of his policies in Babylonia, he is referred to by the Jews, as "the anointed of the Lord" or a "Messiah.

[23investigator]

Look carefully at the dates:

The core principle was to seek and pray for “Wisdom”. Neither god nor Hay-Zeus was intended to be magic wishing machines…

Humans should be fussing over that!

Dear 'elreb'

If you look carefully, there was no reference made, of "Jesus" being a 'magic wishing machine'.

Simply, that he "Jesus", can be in ones life, as no doubt he was as a man in previous "era", if one believes in his existence.

What you say, is for everyone to learn.

Robert S

[elreb]

What you say, is for everyone to learn.

Robert S,

Please forgive me… you appear to be a Christian?

A Christ, Anointed, Messiah or Savior is not a singular… they are rather a plural.

Modern Christians do not seek “Wisdom” or the source of Knowledge.

If they did, then we would stop killing each other!

A true Christian leader would never lie nor ask for money…

Question: Have you downloaded and read the entire “Nag”?

Elreb

[Sanders]

What makes you think they were not the Pharaohs?

Same blood...same time...

The Seven lovers of Wisdom lived between 620 – 550 BC

In 546 BC at the battle of Thymbra, close to 120,000 Egyptian heavy infantry, plus 300 chariots surrendered to Cyrus the Great.

In 540 BC, Babylon surrenders to Cyrus the Great and proclaimed him "king of Babylon, king of Sumer and Akkad, king of the four corners of the world" which included Egypt.

Cyrus the Great left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion where because of his policies in Babylonia, he is referred to by the Jews, as "the anointed of the Lord" or a "Messiah.

I think of the Pharaohs as having lived and ruled in Egypt, and Jesus & Mary having lived under Roman rule in Palestine. I concur that they were of close blood, cousins in fact, but I think calling Jesus a Pharaoh is adding a semantic complication that's not helpful. They were all "dragons" ... that I can understand.

[23investigator]

Robert S,

Please forgive me… you appear to be a Christian?

Modern Christians do not seek “Wisdom” or the source of Knowledge.

Question: Have you downloaded and read the entire “Nag”?

Elreb

Dear 'elreb'

There is nothing to forgive.

In that case it must make me an 'old fashioned' Christian.

Yes, but not completed reading it.

Robert S

[elreb]

but I think calling Jesus a Pharaoh is adding a semantic complication that's not helpful.

If the truth hurts…so be it…Cyrus was Jewish...

I am trying to think of a good comparison to make a minor point.

The longest river in Florida is the St. Johns River.

With the exception of the delta, the river flows south to North…like the Nile River.

If you were going up, out of May Port to Jacksonville…you would travel south.

If you were going up, out of Memphis to Hebron…you would travel south.

Abraham never left the Nile or the continent of Libya/Africa.

The Ur of Salem and the 12 tribes of Egypt were located on the upper Nile.

All the scrolls, papyrus and temples are found on the Nile.

There are no Greek or Roman accounts of the existence of any “Jesus” or “Mary” after the time of Cleopatra and Julius Caesar. [Both of whom were pharaohs]

The pass of Beth Horon is close to the Nile and the second Jewish Temple was located at Elephantine.

Palaistine is a Greek word equivalent to Hebrew Peleshet and pronounced Philistia in English.

In reality, we are talking about “Philae” situated between the Aswan Dam and the High Aswan Dam and the extensive ruins of the Temple of Isis. Elephantine + Philae = Palaistine

This is one of the most beautiful places in Egypt, where legend has it that Cleopatra and Julius Caesar honeymooned.

Philae was a seat of the Christian religion as well as of the ancient Egyptian faith.

Ruins of a Christian church were discovered, and more than one adytum bore traces of having been made to serve at different eras the purposes of a chapel of Osiris and of Christ.

[elreb]

I have in my possession, a later copy of the 3 books written by Wallis Budge in 1904.

Under Amenhotep and the Aten, Budge spells out that the parents of Akhenaten were Amenhotep III and a foreign lady named “Thi”.

Budge points out that the parents, “Iuaa” and “Thuau” of lady “Thi" were not members of the royal family of “Het-ka-Ptah” [Memphis].

Dah…No kidding…

Akhmim was a summer hometown for “Iuaa”/Yuya, the official of Tuthmosis IV and Amenhotep III.

Herodotus mentions the temple dedicated to Perseus and asserts that Akhmin/Chemmis was remarkable for the celebration of games in honor of that hero, after the manner of the Greeks, at which prizes were given; as a matter of fact some representations are known of Kush and people of Pont clambering up poles before the god Min.

Achaemenids derives from Akhmin on the Nile River.

One of the Perseid tribes was Germanii…

Perseus was the son of Zeus and Danae… the archetype of all the Danaans.

Perseus was Cyrus the Great and his mother was a Mede.

Under the table of Nations…the Medes were Madai, sons of Japheth and connected to Greek tribes.

As a note: Ashkenaz, son of Gomer. Ashkuz and Ishkuz were names used for the Scythians, who first appear in Assyrian records in the late 700 BC in the Caucasus region.

Additionally, in Medieval Hebrew, Germany is known as Ashkenaz, and is the origin of the term Ashkenazic Jews.

My “GOD” = Sophia…this is really simple to comprehend...it is really that simple.

[elreb]

As I have stated several times before…

I am a BC person which stands for “Before Cyrus”.

My story does not change Sanders story, as it only changes the dates.

On an early inscription, Cyrus does not claim to be a king, nor from Parsua/Parsumas [Persia]

His claim is to be an “Ansanite” or “An-Za-An-tak-Ra”.

The “Ra” connection is extremely important.

I have a feeling that “Ansanite” is related to “Dansanite”.

As in Danaë…of the Danaus family…

Acrisius the father of Danae was said to be the king of Argo.

The Agro in question would be modern Volos, Magnesia, Thessaly.

This is where Jason and the Argonauts came from.

Jason later married “Medea” and had children. One of the ancestors was Acrisius/Astyages king of Medea and father of Danae.

[elreb]

I find it interesting that Abraham, Joseph and Moses all spent a lot of time at Memphis.

Memphis was not “Egypt” and mostly applied to the Nile delta.

Apparently Moses was placed in a container in the Nile and ended up in Memphis.

It was no secret that Joseph was mummified and buried Egyptian style.

It is also no secret that Moses encountered a Volcano and resulting tsunami.

It is written that Moses was buried near to some place called “Irchu” or City of Palms.

Interestingly, the Oracle of Zeus/Amon in Egypt was known as the land of Palm Trees.

Moses = Prophet [in the sense of "saviour, deliverer"]

Aaron = High Priest

Miriam (Maryam) = Priestess

Zipporah = Cushite from Midian; wife of Moses

Andromeda = Cushite from Media ; wife of Perseus

[elreb]

Colchis/Kolkhis

Home of Aeëtes and Medea and the destination of the Argonauts

Sesostris of Memphis left colonists behind at the Colchian River Phasis.

Medea was the daughter of Circe who was the daughter of Helios, the god of the sun.

Pasiphaë who married Minos was also a daughter of Helios and Perse/Perseis.

Helios related to Apollo, god of Light, Truth and Prophecy.

Both Amenhotep III and Queen Thi worshiped the Sun god “Aten-Ra”. [God of light and Truth]

It makes absolute since to me that “Akhmin” on the Nile, related to Colchis.

I’m sure there is a connection between Minos and Min too.

Bubba: Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea.

You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it.

Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo.

Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried.

There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich.

That- that's about it.

[elreb]

This entire disclosure of facts totally depends on dating.

The current, accepted system...goes completely unchallenged.

Sanders…why?

Hell, you wrote the book on disinformation?

Our “Core” dates are 600 BC…

[Sanders]

All good stuff, elreb. I agree that the official dating is all completely screwed up. Probably some "best guesses" which didn't rock the Judaic/Christian "boat" and authorities have been hog-tied to that chronology ever since.

[Sanders]

This thread is now over 99,000 views. (Wow.) When it hits 100 thou, I promise to analyze the following symbols ... they are all related. Don't think I'm crazy, because some of them relate to the grail and others to a more violent means of hormone extraction ... and the only term for the category into which all of these symbols fall into is - vampirism. The evolution of these related symbols, really, reflects the whole story of civilization.

I was gonna just post, but I've been drinking (a wee bit). So I think I'll wait till this thread hits 100,000. Here's your teaser:

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[elreb]

I was gonna just post, but I've been drinking (a wee bit). So I think I'll wait till this thread hits 100,000. Here's your teaser:

I have a good idea of what they mean, however I will wait for you.

[Sanders]

Have I mentioned Maximilian? I can't recall.

I just learned that Cinco de Mayo is, with the exception of one province, not celebrated in Mexico. Maximilian only ruled for 3 1/2 years there, he is a mere blip on Mexican history. But independence from the monarchial rule of Maximilian is celebrated by Hispanics and non-Hispanics alike on May 5th all over the American southwest.

Why???

(Going to bed - touching on this interesting footnote of history will be my fun for tomorrow.)

[Sanders]

I have a good idea of what they mean, however I will wait for you.

Are you familiar with the last two?

They, in relation to the others, are the most "meaning-significant" (with regard to our modern world), IMO.

[elreb]

Are you familiar with the last two?

I have seen the last two used in context to female and male.