The Dragon Blood-line Options

[elreb]

ANKH

Sanders,

How would it affect your story of you were to back Mary up by about 400 to 500 years?



There is no more proof that Jesus...existed than Jack in the Beanstalk, or Peter Rabbit.

The new testament always refers back to “Isaiah” who pro-claims Cyrus to be the Messiah.

The Great Isaiah Scroll is real and dates to 335 BC.

Mary Magdalene/Magdala = Mary of the tower fits the story of Danaë who was locked in a tower and gave a virgin birth to Perseus, the son of Zeus [son of god].

A daughter/wife was Merytaten = Mary Aten or Mary Amen. [Amen = Zeus]

This Mary appears to be the mother of Jesus Jr. There were several Marys’ and France, especially Brittany, sounds good to me because it was a “Core” area.

These folks also had the Ankh. [For real]

AKHEN-ATEN

[Sanders]

When Philip the fair launched his attack on the Templars in, what was it, 1307 (?), his storm-troopers collected various items left behind by Templars who were tipped off and fled. One was a silver head, female, with some skull bones in it wrapped in cloth, and a label attached bearing the letters CAPET LVIIIm. Head, 58m. The m was probably the sign of virgo, or Mary. Very possibly, the meaning was actually, 'head of the 58th Mary'.

[elreb]

Very possibly, the meaning was actually, 'head of the 58th Mary'.

God's Wife of Amen [Zeus]

I would have to calculate the time in office of the “Divine Adoratrice of Amen” but let’s say average 35 years.

35 x 58 = 2030 years less 1307 = 723 BC.

In your Mary story, I would look at Ankh-nesnefer-ibre.

Ankhnesneferibre held the office of “Divine Adoratrice of Amen” (or God's Wife of Amun) from around 586 to 525 BC.

During the same time, she also held the office of God's Wife of Amun, which was the highest office in the priesthood of the temple of Amen in Thebes.

She and her “virgin in training” should have had a child with Cyrus the Great.

PSS: I have more...

[Sanders]

You don't want to subtract 1307, but rather thirty. The head bones were relics - allegedly those of Mary of Magdala, who was worshipped by the Cathars and whose bones the Templars were persistently rumored to have possessed. According to Nicholas de Vere (or Holy Blood Holy Grail, I think the former, sorry, I'm fuzzy) interpreting biblical (or non-canonical books, again, sorry, I'm fuzzy) sources, Jesus met Mary when he was about thirty and she was about twelve (the perfect age for a priestess to begin the ritual).

That would push your time-line way back - but then again, 35 years per "Mary" generation might be way too long. The Grail maiden's role was to provide melatonin for a few years, then (in many cases, apparently) marry and provide children. Then the next maiden would step up to bat - not necessarily however a daughter of the previous maiden/priestess-priest/king, this might be impractical. Royal blood on the part of the maiden was all that was required. So, I'd venture (as a wild guess) 15 or 20 years per "Mary", multiplied by 58 subtracted from about AD 30, landing the first Mary at about 1000 BC.

This is all wild speculation of course, but kinda fun to think about.

[Sanders]

While we're on this topic of Jesus,

I didn't even consider that he existed as a person before I started digging into this dragon stuff. But, a few things about the "messiah" -

'Messiah' derives from 'messeh', the royal crocodile in Egypt whose fat was used to anoint the Pharaoh. It meant as did its Greek counterpart Christos, simply, "anointed", or more correctly, "the anointing".

Jesus was not "of" Nazareth, this is a mistranslation. No one lived in the place that came to be called Nazareth during the life of Jesus, as both archeological and literary records confirm. Jesus was, alternately, a Nazorite, or a Nazarene. John the Baptist, recognized by several Gnostic sects as the senior "prophet" (and this would seem to be confirmed by the biblical baptism) was called 'the great Nazar'. Nazar meant dragon.

The 'raising of Lazarus' was probably the spiritual rebirth of Lazarus, brother of Mary, in a ritual consistent with the rituals of the Mysteries of Greece, the Troad, Babylon, and even earlier, Egypt. Jesus was simply guiding a new initiate (his soon-to-be, or already, brother-in-law) into the Nazorite order.

Jesus was not a poor carpenter, in the original text he was a "builder" ... considering him a Mason would be closer to the truth probably. Nor was he poor - he was an uncrowned (but not un-anointed!) king, and hob-knobbed with the upper class. His reach-out to the poor and wretched of Palestine was, probably in part, politically motivated. His supporters, buoyed by the union of a charismatic priest and his priestess, both of the Davidic line, and the promise of the healing of a long-standing rift between the tribes of Judah and Benjamin (Jesus was of the tribe of Judah, Mary of Benjamin), foresaw an uprising of support sufficient to throw off the oppressive yoke of Roman rule and restore the Jewish kingdom to its former glory. This is why he is regarded as the 'Savior' - that being an unrealized hope of saving Palestine from Roman oppression.

None of Jesus' disciples really "got it". That led to envy and jealousy directed at Mary, who, as can be discerned from the gnostic gospels, did. This led to the Church portraying her as a prostitute. (The secret "grail" ritual probably had something to do with it!)

The accepted gospels were written in Rome for a Roman audience, and Roman guilt related to the crucifixion had to be suppressed, otherwise no one would read about or care about this Jesus guy. So, the Jews were blamed, and Pilot was portrayed as a reluctant go-along. Pilot was in fact a brutal and sadistic ruler. The participance of Jewish elders in the arrest of Jesus is not reflected in any of the gnostic gospels, those rejected by the church.

Jesus and Mary were married, and most likely had children.

The Cathars, probably having heard stories first hand from descendants of Jesus & Mary rejected the dogma propagated by the Church of Rome, and had their own form of Christianity.

We don't know much about them or their beliefs, because the Church of Rome (loyal Catholic knights actually) spent 40 years exterminating the Cathars and destroying any records they may have kept during the Albigensian crusade.

(The Templars would suffer a similar attack a century later.)

[elreb]

The Berlin Codex (also known as the Akhmim Codex), given the accession number Papyrus Berolinensis 8502, was a Coptic manuscript from the 5th century AD, unearthed in Akhmin, Egypt.

If you recall, Akhmin was the home town of Perseus and the Amenhotep royal family. [Zeus]

The codex includes:

The Apocryphon of John, The Sophia of Jesus Christ, Gospel of Mary and an epitome of the Act of Peter.

There is a statue of Meryt-Amen in Akhmin to this very day.

"Daughter of the King, his beloved, Great King's Wife, Meryt-Amen, may she be young".

Perseus = Cyrus = Jesus

No chewing required

[Sanders]

Sorry, maybe there are too many stones I've unturned, maybe I'm ignorant. But 'Cyrus=Jesus'? - don't buy it.

[elreb]

Sorry, maybe there are too many stones I've unturned, maybe I'm ignorant. But 'Cyrus = Jesus'? - don't buy it.

biblehistory 101

Not to bore you with bible history, however the “Isaiah scroll” is the oldest original book of the bible and a copy dates to around 335 BC.

http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah

It was written 500 years before the fake Jesus. In fact, the New Testament always refers back to Isaiah. Here is a translation.

http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qa-tran.htm

It speaks of Cyrus the Great as the “Messiah” and the one who will restore the Nazarenes of Jacob.

Cyrus did become “king of Kings” and freed the Jews from captivity.

In the end he was impaled and deified as a savior. He had two sons and 6 daughters.

(Chapter 41:1.) Great Isaiah scroll

“I will help you, says YHWH, and your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel. (15.) Behold, I will put you”

19. “as a new sharp threshing tool owning teeth: you shall thresh the mountains, and crush them, and shall make the hills like chaff. (16.) You shall winnow them and the wind”

20. “Shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them and you shall rejoice in YHWH, in the Holy One of Israel you shall glory”

(Chapter 45:1) 4. “to Jerusalem, You shall be inhabited; and to the cities of Judah, you shall be built, and your wasted places I will raise them up: 27 saying to the deep, Be dry,

5. and I will dry up your rivers: (28.) saying of Cyrus, he is my shepherd, and all my desires he will complete: and saying to Jerusalem, you shall be built;

Thus says YHWH to his messiah, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have held,

7. to bring down Gentiles before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two doored gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
And he said, “Is it a light thing from your being to me

3. a servant to raise up the tribes of Israel and to restore the Nazarenes of Jacob…”

This servant was Cyrus the Great…

[Sanders]

Interesting ... hmmm.... point taken. Digesting.

On another note,

"Old King Cole was a merry ol' soul
And a merry ol' soul was he.
He called for his pipe
and he called for his bowl
and he called for his fiddlers three".

Coel Hen (Coel "the old", who gets the most votes for being the King Cole of this nursery rhyme) was the grandfather of Constantine the Great, Roman Emperor allegedly of the ancient Davidic/Fairy blood-line. (That doesn't mean that Old King Cole was Davidic, Constantine carried both Davidic and other dragon-blood from his different grandparents.) The Catholic Church, understanding, or, conceding an understanding among the Nobility (and possibly even the masses) of Europe, Constantine's validity as a true king (Emperor of Rome in this case), that is to say, that Constantine was of pure dragon blood, propagated the greatest fraud in history - the Donation of Constantine. In this (certifiably) forged document produced in the 8th century, four centuries after Constantine was claimed to have written it, he (Constantine the Great) donates authority over the Christian world (including the power to anoint kings) to the pope. This was whipped out just in time to anoint Pepin 'the Short', making Pepin the official king of the Franks. This was not so long after Pepin of Herstal (Pepin 'the short's grandfather) in collusion with the Church, had Dagobert II, the last Merovingian king of consequence, murdered. (Dagobert's son and daughter, according to some sources, fled to the Aquitaine and married into the family of Eudes of Aquitaine - aka Juda Zakkai? - producing the "Grail Family" which produced many generations later Godfroi de Bouillon, leader of the 1st Crusade.)

Coel ruled over much of Britain probably during the later part of the 4th and early part of the 5th centuries, around the time of the exit of the Romans from the Isles.

"Old King Cole" may or may not have been Coel Hen, it doesn't really matter - the nursery rhyme certainly was a portrayal of him or one of several royal "Coel"s that ruled during the misty "age of Arthur".

So, what'd he call for his pipe for? Tobacco? Tabacco wasn't introduced into Europe 'till the 16th century. Surely it wasn't hashish he was smoking, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't crack. Now, the nursery rhyme, ALLEGEDLY, was written early in the 18th century, so the writer may just have been taking poetic license in imposing a tobacco-smoking habit on the ol' Coel.

Seems kind of unlikely though, particularly since King Cole then calls for his bowl. What's the bowl for? A breakfast of cereal? A smoke from his pipe and a bowl of Lucky Charms to start the day? - Maybe, soup? - but, he doesn't call for a bowl of soup, nor for a bowl of Lucky Charms or even corn flakes ... he just calls for a bowl.

Hmmmmmm - what could Old King Cole have wanted with a pipe and a bowl?

Instead of bowl, substitute "chalice" (a bowl works just as good) ... what he was "smokin'", i.e. funneling via his pipe into his bowl, was melatonin, the stuff of the pineal gland seated in the brain of the virgin, extracted from the maidens' sexual organs which made the great kings Great.

Were the "fiddlers three" "grail-maidens"?, or possibly pages tasked with "fiddling" the maidens?

I suspect the later.

The 2nd half of the rhyme,

"Every fiddler he had a fiddle
And a very fine fiddle had he
Oh there's none so rare, as can compare
With King Cole and his fiddlers three"

Coel avoided the "Minotaur" of the Labyrinth, the danger of testosterone release during the grail ritual by letting someone else do the "fiddling". To boot, he had three "fiddlers" and three "fiddles" ... and, as per the rhyme, "very fine fiddles" at that.

Hahah!!!

[23investigator]

Interesting ... hmmm.... point taken. Digesting.

On another note,

"Old King Cole was a merry ol' soul
And a merry ol' soul was he.
He called for his pipe
and he called for his bowl
and he called for his fiddlers three".

"Every fiddler he had a fiddle
And a very fine fiddle had he
Oh there's none so rare, as can compare
With King Cole and his fiddlers three"

Coel avoided the "Minotaur" of the Labyrinth, the danger of testosterone release during the grail ritual by letting someone else do the "fiddling". To boot, he had three "fiddlers" and three "fiddles" ... and, as per the rhyme, "very fine fiddles" at that.

Hahah!!!

Dear 'Sanders'

You are definitely establishing "you aren't a sheila".

If old king Cole was anything like a man, he would have had to go into another room, or it would have all been over very quickly.

But then, I guess, the prize to these 'bozos', was worth the wait in the other room.

What a mob of 'dick heads'.

Either you got it or you haven't.

Robert S

[elreb]

YHWH to his messiah, to Cyrus

He [Cyrus] will restore the Nazarenes of Jacob

“The great Nazar” = meant dragon

Ok Sanders,

Help me understand a Nazar which interestingly sounds like Tsar, Czar, Ceasar, Kaiser…and Sar.

Said to be equal to Rex and Em-Per-Ra = in the house of Ra.

Chew on that…my friend…

[Sanders]

Nazar/Czar, GOOD ONE!!!

[Sanders]

If old king Cole was anything like a man, he would have had to go into another room, or it would have all been over very quickly.

But then, I guess, the prize to these 'bozos', was worth the wait in the other room.

The Labyrinth, the Minotaur, the thicket of Sleeping Beauty (a tale of Mother Goose, i.e. Blanche of Hungary (an AVAR!!!???) 's daughter Bertrada "the Goose-foot", the mother of Charlemagne), maybe even the dragon "slayed", this challenge to the elven royal which was represented in the symbol of the swastika (found in Avar Jewelry!), was the self control necessary to achieve a higher mental state from a booster shot of melatonin, without screwing it up by becoming sexually aroused and filling the brain with testosterone.

I wouldn't think of them as bozos. They, kings, queens and maidens of this blood-line in an ancient era represented only in myth and nursery rhymes today, performed this ritual, and apparently had for millennia, in order to transcend the ego, achieve a higher mental state, and thus rule justly, foresightedly, and successfully over less mentally sharpened subjects. (The tales of "dragons" living in caves outside of villages, to whom virgins were offered by the villagers, was simply (all of this according to Nicholas de Vere) an arrangement whereby the "dragon/elf" provided just and inspired rulership over the community in return for access to melatonin.)

This sub-race of "elven" kings & queens were (all-but) exterminated a very long time ago. The most violent campaign by the church was the Albigensian crusade, aimed at stomping out the gnostic Cathars - gnostic meaning "knowing" - i.e., the Cathars "KNEW!", didn't look to the Roman Church, who they knew had hijacked the story of Jesus (an elf) and desecrated the reputation of his maiden and wife, Mary, but whose brand of Christianity was based on knowledge handed down from the line of Jesus and Mary themselves. Not only did the church exterminate the population of the Languedoc (violently,over a period of 40 years, the Church killed anything that looked or smelled like a Cathar. The Cathars had been prospering, their brand of Christianity was spreading, the "Magdalene Heresy" could destroy the Church!"), they destroyed (nearly) all records.

Jonathan Black, in a book "the Secret History of the World", and Guillermo Del Toro in a movie, Pan's Labyrinth, both describe the hijacking of the secret spiritual infrastructure of the world by fascists. The same battle can be witnessed by delving into the history of America - the battle between two branches of Freemasonry - one to which was loyal George Washington, Franklin, and their French ally Lafayette. Their enemies were the Essex Junto, Boston slave-n-opium-traders and conspirators with the British East India Company, enemies of the whole idea of American independence, many of whom were also Freemasons, but of a fundamentally different-thinking branch, that of the Scottish Rite.

This battle is still going on today - the enemies of the whole idea of American Independence, an idea which has long threatened their feudal ideolagy and their imagined connection to "dragon-blood" and, hence, right to divine rule, are pushing very hard right now for one-world-government (with them in charge of course). Their most visible manifestation in the US is the Council on Foreign Relations. Their current puppet is Obama, The destruction of the American Experiment is at the top of their "to-do-list", and once you know that you understand Obama's policies.

But the crazies in suits who attend the Bilderberg meetings aren't real "dragons", though I imagine they think they are. They are (to a surprising degree) the descendants of William the Conqueror's Norman "bully-boys", wanna-be-dragons, along with variously aligned (some Jewish banker) co-conspirators.

The real dragons are long gone, the pineal gland has devolved into a vestigal organ, the spirit world is no longer anything but a product pawned off by the various organized churches on the masses, thirsty for some meaning in life.

[23investigator]

the pineal gland has devolved into a vestigal organ, the spirit world is no longer anything but a product pawned off by the various organized churches on the masses, thirsty for some meaning in life.

Dear 'Sanders'.

Are you absolutely certain of that?

Robert S

[elreb]

Nazar/Czar, GOOD ONE!!!

As I have pointed out before, we misunderstand Jacob. [Is-Ra-el]

Joseph was the governor of Mitzrim = Memphis. Second most powerful man in the delta.

His father, Jacob traveled up the Nile towards the land of Kush and settled around Knon/Canaan which was located on the bend of the Nile around Keneh or modern Qena.

Kn-On could be a town of “Khnum’. He carried the Djed staff and the Ankh.

Joseph married the daughter of the Priest of the sun god “Ra”. His sons were very important because of this. You would surely get a few Nazars from these guys.

When Jacob died he was embalmed and mummified in the Egyptian style and entombed [most likely] somewhere around Dan-darah. The Dandarah Zodiac plays right into you 8 spoke wheel.

(IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Jacob) Jacobs funeral procession

[Sanders]

Dear 'Sanders'.

Are you absolutely certain of that?

Robert S

Point taken, you're right ... I may have exaggerated. But, no one who has taken an interest in the ancient Mystery Schools, the spiritual/perceptive heights they were acclaimed to have achieved, the intense secrecy those schools demanded and, the surprising knowledge by people we think of as primitive of the pineal gland and its purpose, combined with the fact that the tiny gland is not thought to do very much in modern humans (regulate sleep cycles by producing melaton), despite the fact that the gland commands more blood-per-pound of any organ in the body bar the kidneys, could fail to appreciate my point.

BTW, fluoride accumulates in the pineal gland, calcifying and rendering the gland useless. I suspect that our water has been fluoridated since the 50's, not to strengthen our teeth (which it may or may not do), but to render the population uncreative and further disconnected to the "spirit-world" ... whatever that may mean, while the dragon-usurpers take further steps toward their wet-dream of one-world-government with them in charge.

Am I wrong? - 1950, in front of a Senate subcommittee, James P. Warburg (son of the architect of the Federal Reserve Act) - "We will have one-world-government, either by consent or conquest" (I typed that from memory, might not be word-for-word.)

That's in the congressional record, and I imagine the guys who were in James Warburg's camp are the same guys who decided that we needed fluoride in our water back in those post WWII years.

[Sanders]

- s-

You have your hand on the pulse - the biblical patriarchs of the Jewish line were tied by blood to the Pharaohs, and that's where they got their "dragon" blood. That's why Jesus (/Cyrus?) were called "messiahs". For some reason, the writers/editors of the Old Testament (and the New, for that matter) wanted to hide that connection, hence all the crazy stories in the bible. I guarantee you, every time you read of a miracle, or some bizarre biblical story that doesn't quite make sense, the writers/editors are using diversionary tactics to hide some incriminating Egyptian/Jewish blood-connection.

Moses was an orphan picked out of a creek? Come-on. Joseph became "Head of the Horse" (Visier) by interpreting the Pharaoh's dream? Come-on. The story of Sarai is even more ridiculous - the treasure Abraham took out of Egypt was a 'Wedding Gift' ... Sarai/Sarah was an Egyptian princess. Her (biblical) long period of barrenness, inability to have a child, was invented to cover-up the fact that before going to Egypt Abraham had not yet met Sarah - (cause she was Egyptian, duh).

[23investigator]

That's in the congressional record, and I imagine the guys who were in James Warburg's camp are the same guys who decided that we needed fluoride in our water back in those post WWII years.

Dear 'Sanders'.

It most likely is, that is one thing to date these 'monsters', --through out the world-- ,have not been able to escape, but no doubt there would be plans to erradicate that to, which despite their best efforts will never happen.

Little story if I may.

As a younger man, during interstate --sorties--, my path used to be past a very big plant, drab, and fenced off with very little outside activity.
It used to leave a very ominous feeling.

As time has gone, it is now realised the --byproduct-- of this industry, which had no other commercial value, is the basis of "fluoride".

Whenever the thought, of these sad excuse for manhood, come to mind, so does that image.

Drab, empty, and useless.

Robert S

[elreb]

One thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is the word “Ra”

Abraham

Sarah

Israel

Rachel

Midrash

Torah

Rabbi

Rashi

Pharaoh

[Sanders]

Elreb, you sly devil ... ANOTHER Good One!!!!

- I concur. The secret history of our world lingers in our words. (And, sometimes, in our nursery rhymes!)