9/11... The Truth Is Anti-semitic... Options

[pi3]

9/11... the Truth is Anti-Semitic...
http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2008/06...ti-semitic.html

Every now and then as time approaches for a new entry here… every now and then I just don’t know what to say. So I sit here and I think about it and it isn’t very long before my thoughts return, as they always do, to 9/11 and the prima facie evidence of both Zionist involvement in the act and the cover-up in the aftermath.

The terror State of Israel has had its hand in so many things; told so many lies, caused so many deaths that it has taken on a surreal appearance in my mind. Hardly does a day go by when I don’t learn of some new horror that they brought forth upon the planet. Hardly a day goes by when another new lie, or chorus of lies, does not whip across the landscape like rabid bats; routinely and persistently infecting the population with mind parasites of disinformation. We find out that it was Israel that shoehorned Idi Amin into power. We have found that the Entebbe Hollywood rescue was staged. We know now that Israel deliberately bombed the U.S.S. Liberty and that it was no mistake.

We’re told that it was Arabs that instigated the Six Day War and Yom Kippur conflict and then we find that the facts tell a different story altogether. We are told that Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. The facts tell a different story. The deeper you look the more the story changes. It turns out that Hamas was originally an Israeli creation. I guess that one got away from them. When we look for Al Qaeda cells; a hard job because there is no Al Qaeda, we find that the only one that ever got exposed was a Mossad operation.

Grab an act of genocide in the last century and see who you find at the heart of the matter. How about the Ukraine? How about the Armenian Genocide? You don’t have to look far when it comes to Darfur and Sierra Leone either. All this and Michael Ledeen’s wife too?

The thing is, if you go looking for the truth and sifting the evidence it becomes glaringly apparent soon enough that Zionism and its proponents represent a cynical and viral threat to everything that isn’t them.

When you dissect the real events and official statistics of World War 2 and, of course, World War 1 you find that what you’ve been told is not what was… not at all. You can take what you find and consider it. You can turn it around and look at it from all sides. You can hold it up to the light to see where the light passes through and where the shadows are formed. The more you look, the more you study, the more a particular influence presents itself. Herein lays the key to the application and definition of Anti-Semitism.

If you look into Biblical associations and anthropological studies, as well as what remains of the history of earlier times you come to find that the original Israelis, remaining today are, in fact, more likely to be The Palestinians. Perhaps there is an argument for various peoples being original. There is an argument for anything. When you leave the truth out of the equation all that you have is argument without the possibility of resolution which is… exactly the way some people want it.

Maybe you come across this Ashke-Nazi thing and the Khazar origins and you find that there’s this DNA conflict about what Semitic is and what it isn’t. The Palestinians are Semitic and the Khazar Ashkenazis are not. The Sephardic Jews certainly are. In 1960 there were 500,000 Sephardic Jews and 12,000,000 million Ashkenazim. Do the math. Apply your brain and the tool of reason.

Enter 9/11 and the question… to whose benefit does this event incline? Why were there five dancing Israelis? What does Odigo mean? Why was the security of all 9/11 airports in the hands of ICTS? Why were they in charge of the London Tube and The Madrid Train Station? I don’t have space here- not nearly enough space… to list the damning connections between Israeli intelligence; security firms, dual national neo-cons and sundry.

The argument for Zionist Israeli involvement in 9/11 is so apparent and prevalent that the conclusion is inescapable and without any competing, rational or fact based argument for anyone else, anywhere, anyhow. We could insert Sherlock’s famous quote about the improbable here. We could insert the rules for scientific inquiry here. We could insert all sorts of helpful things but we don’t need to. It’s that obvious. It is where the truth leads us and that is why the truth is anti-Semitic.

This is why there was no real inquiry into 9/11. This is why Bush and Co. opposed any inquiry for so long and then turned over the keys of a sham investigation to someone like Philip Zelikow. They first tried to give it to that paragon of murder, Henry Kissinger; David Rockefeller’s man on the scene. That was too outrageous even for the Nimrods among us.

Why would the president of the United States be so adamantly opposed to an inquiry? This is damning enough. We hardly need to look further. On down the road so many things came out. The BBC shot itself in the foot with its WTC7, Madame Cleo commentary about the building falling before the building fell. Now the plague of accusing letters pouring in to Michael Rudin’s email box requires another mad effort at obfuscation and they’ll be using the redoubtable Nick Kollerstrom for that.

Nearly everyone now knows that 9/11 was an ‘in house’ Zionist neo-con hit job. But you can’t go there because ‘the truth is anti-Semitic’.

Where is the plane wreckage from the Pentagon attack? Where is the camera footage from every event everywhere? Where is all the missing evidence that would be all the administration needed to prove what happened, if it happened the way they said it did? That they choose not to use the compelling evidence, that they have destroyed evidence, is also proof that the evidence says other than what they say it does.

I’ve called for a general sit down strike against the vampire machine. I think we need to use a few other tools as well. Someone reading this article has the ability to do something useful. Someone… make an icon, a logo that says “9/11 was an Inside Job”. Make it smart and sexy and effective and let us put it up in a prominent place on our blogs. You can see me wearing the t-shirt that I designed right here on this blog. We need to print stickers and stick them up everywhere we go; at bus stops and on buildings… everywhere. We need to take a page from the “V for Vendetta” playbook and become a revolutionary force for truth by plastering the world with guerilla art that screams in Technicolor to every passer by. We need an advertising campaign no less slick than Coca-Cola. We need to make noise and be subversive and use all the humor and irony that can be mined. It needs to appear on The Hollywood Sign. It needs to show up on every park bench and on staked signs in the middle of national parks. It needs to appear along the Colorado River in The Grand Canyon. It needs to be a routine skywriting event.

We must go where the truth leads us and have no fear about offending those who are telling the lies. We need to shame and expose and ridicule the merchants of fear and disinformation. We need to take it to them. We need to push for critical mass. You wonder what you can do? You wonder what any one individual can do? This is what you can do. You can become “V for Vendetta” in your daily life. Get a little bag and fill it with stickers and put them up everywhere. Be creative. Leave messages everywhere. Stick them up in the office bathrooms. Put it on bulletin boards. Buy a small box ad in the newspaper and think… think about all the possibilities that have not been mentioned here.

This is a war we can win. This is a war we are winning, just as the overlords are losing their wars abroad. Put some adventure into your life and remember… the truth is anti-Semitic.

[bdjusa]

Excellent post. You made the following comment. Nearly everyone now knows that 9/11 was an ‘in house’ Zionist neo-con hit job. But you can’t go there because ‘the truth is anti-Semitic’.

I have to respectfully disagree a little bit. The vast majority of Americans have not even heard of Zionists or the Mossad or AIPAC. People are shocked when I tell them parts of the Israeli government, such as the Mossad were responsible for 911. When I mention Israeli Art students, Dancing Israelis, Odigo Systems etc. they have no idea what I am talking about. Americans think the Israeli government is the victim in the Middle East and needs our protection. They have no idea they are the number one terrorist organization in the world and how the Israeli lobby controls our congress and the media.

I liked your post and it would be good if more Americans read it.

For those who want to know what is actually going on in the world and not what the major media tells us, check out the excellent http://www.informationclearinghouse.info They don't get into 911 too much but you will get a new perspective on the United States and Israel.

[albertchampion]

yes, these are the real inconvenient truths. and to cite them on a number of purportedly progressive blogs will generate calls for your banishment from the site, your actual extermination,etc. i know this firs-hand.

the only time that i have incurred such vile hostility was following the seizure of augusto pinochet ugarte in london when i posted some of my recollections of pinochet's chile and how pleased i was to see judge garzon's writ for extradition to spain honored by the british police. i was surprised to learn how many fascist bastids there are out there. and i have not returned to chile since then[chile remains an erstwhile military/fascist junta].

you are also accurate in your description of the extraordinary ignorance of the u.s. populace. in the realest sense, this ignorance has been imposed upon them by the zionists...who have become the information dissemination gatekeepers in the usa. thus, few learn of israel's role in the world of state terror and tyranny. and only a minute sector of the world recognizes that israel may be as imperialistly[sic] ambitious as any "so-called" major power.

a very current story that would seem to be being "spiked" by the israeli/zionist 5th column is what can only be considered the assassination of a high level cia employee[sic] in houston several weeks ago. his name was roland carnaby. i urge you to study the story. if you can. in houston, the story has been "spiked". the only place where i have been able to learn of the rigor of the "spiking" is on wayne madsen's site. i recommend that you subscribe and tune-in.

houston is a major "spook" center. it has a major concentration of foreign consulates[harbors for spooks under diplomatic cover]. it has the largest concentration of hydrocarbon processing facilities in the world, i think. it has a major port. and several major international airports. over the 37 years that i have operated in houston's petrochemical industry, i have concluded that houston may be the largest narcotics trafficking site in the western hemisphere.

and it has long been the operational headquarters of cia covert activities. the oil industry is a very good mechanism for moving men and material all over the globe under that cover.

madsen asserts that carnaby was "offed" because he discovered an israeli "false flag" op that was about to be unleashed.

knowing what i know about the astonishing lack of security for critical national security assets in the metro houston area, i cannot dispute madsen's interpretation of the reason for carnaby's hit. and it was a hit. a palpable hit.

i am being called to dinner. before i leave, i want to mention the cover for zionist ops in houston. it is known as the rabbi friedman foundation. it was the membership of this foundation that arranged for george walker bush to duck his indictment for cocaine trafficking. and they have owned him ever since.

[Sue]

Excellent post.

No question there was at least some Zionist involvement. Although "Israeli" and "Zionist" don't mean the same thing, many Israeli people knew something was going to happen in NYC PRIOR to 9/11. The answer to why they knew something is an important piece of the puzzle.

The whole completed puzzle, though, involves not only neocons and Zionists, but also Freemasons, Illuminati, the international banking cartel and the Vatican, particularly the Jesuits.

It was truly a "team effort".

[richard cranium]

yes, these are the real inconvenient truths. and to cite them on a number of purportedly progressive blogs will generate calls for your banishment from the site, your actual extermination,etc. i know this firs-hand.

the only time that i have incurred such vile hostility was following the seizure of augusto pinochet ugarte in london when i posted some of my recollections of pinochet's chile and how pleased i was to see judge garzon's writ for extradition to spain honored by the british police. i was surprised to learn how many fascist bastids there are out there. and i have not returned to chile since then[chile remains an erstwhile military/fascist junta].

you are also accurate in your description of the extraordinary ignorance of the u.s. populace. in the realest sense, this ignorance has been imposed upon them by the zionists...who have become the information dissemination gatekeepers in the usa. thus, few learn of israel's role in the world of state terror and tyranny. and only a minute sector of the world recognizes that israel may be as imperialistly[sic] ambitious as any "so-called" major power.

a very current story that would seem to be being "spiked" by the israeli/zionist 5th column is what can only be considered the assassination of a high level cia employee[sic] in houston several weeks ago. his name was roland carnaby. i urge you to study the story. if you can. in houston, the story has been "spiked". the only place where i have been able to learn of the rigor of the "spiking" is on wayne madsen's site. i recommend that you subscribe and tune-in.

houston is a major "spook" center. it has a major concentration of foreign consulates[harbors for spooks under diplomatic cover]. it has the largest concentration of hydrocarbon processing facilities in the world, i think. it has a major port. and several major international airports. over the 37 years that i have operated in houston's petrochemical industry, i have concluded that houston may be the largest narcotics trafficking site in the western hemisphere.

and it has long been the operational headquarters of cia covert activities. the oil industry is a very good mechanism for moving men and material all over the globe under that cover.

madsen asserts that carnaby was "offed" because he discovered an israeli "false flag" op that was about to be unleashed.

knowing what i know about the astonishing lack of security for critical national security assets in the metro houston area, i cannot dispute madsen's interpretation of the reason for carnaby's hit. and it was a hit. a palpable hit.

i am being called to dinner. before i leave, i want to mention the cover for zionist ops in houston. it is known as the rabbi friedman foundation. it was the membership of this foundation that arranged for george walker bush to duck his indictment for cocaine trafficking. and they have owned him ever since.

Albert,I thought you might be interested in that article I just saw at the Wayne Madsen site. It's titled "Houston Police release patrol car videos in Carnaby shootings".

It's a pretty scary video.

rc

This post has been edited by richard cranium: Oct 18 2008, 09:03 PM

[amazed!]

Excellent posts here folks!

Albert, your reference to Pinochet reminded me of Naomi Klein's book Shock Doctrine, and I wonder if you've read it?

[grizz]

Hi Skepticon.

First, this topic is in the Debate forum. That indicates that the view expressed in the OP is not considered to be common, and is subject to debate.

Second, this subject has been discussed with great frequency, and there is a wide range of opinion.

Here are my thoughts about Israeli involvement in 9/11.

[albertchampion]

ah, yes, THE SHOCK DOCTRINE: THE RISE OF DISASTER CAPITALISM

i think i recommended this book to this site some months ago.

i think i also recommended the 3 speeches klein gave recently that are available on david barsamian's ALTERNATIVE RADIO website.

chile was a country i focused on, have focused on for decades. my library concentrates on chile, especially the years leading up to the coup, the coup[11/09/73], and the years following. and i thought that i knew virtually all that there was to know. but naomi klein added a new story.......and that was the pre-planning by milton friedman and his acolytes for the economic shock[transformation] of chile that was going to accompany the golpe.

that was something i didn't know.

if you have an interest in chile, i can recommend to you a bibliography. while i was escaping ike, amazon sent me the most recent additon to my library.

LIFE UNDER AUGUSTO PINOCHET: THE DICTATOR'S SHADOW[a political memoir]. by heraldo munoz. i haven't started it yet, i am wading through TUNA: A LOVE STORY[a comprehensive examination of the destruction of the world's fisheries - a subject that first commanded my attention when i returned to chile in november 1989. oddly enough, i was writing an essay on this topic earlier this week-end].

as to the activities of the israeli intell services and their involvement/influence in the affairs/activities of the usa, one would have to be deaf and dumb to have missed them. not to be exhaustive, the uss liberty. jonathan pollard. jack abramoff.

one of the most interesting aspects of 20th century usa has been how organized crime has been characterized as virtually an exclusively italian/sicilian enterprise. only in the zionist-controlled us media could a sitcom[sic] about organized crime be entitled THE SOPRANOS. in a very real sense, a similar sitcom should be produced entitled, THE SIEGELS. THE ROSENSTIELS. THE BRONFMANS. THE LANSKYS. THE DALITZES. THE ROTHSTEINS. THE ANNENBERGS. THE WASSERMANS.

perhaps sometime in the future, we may become more informed as to the backgrounds/activities of so many of the zionist puppeteers - who by crying "anti-semitism" have stifled the inquiries[just ask norm finkelstein, ilan pappe].

some years ago, i was given a manuscript of a memoir of an "old hollywood" independent film maker. he wasn't a member of any synagogue. and he wasn't sicilian, either. it was a very detailed, very bitter recollection of how all the indies were destroyed by the jewish/sicilian/italian syndicate. i found the manuscript more than fascinating. it could never be published.

what i found interesting was how the author identified johnny roselli as the real capo di tutti capi. not only how he replaced jack dragna as the capo regime for california. but how he became lansky's paul bremmer in las vegas.

before roselli's swim in biscayne bay in an oil drum, he had been identified as only a low-level mafioso with a linkage to the us intell services. this memoir identified roselli as the cardinal richelieu to lansky's papacy.

there is so much out there that we don't know.

i have mentioned it before: the legend of usama bin laden was created by an israeli dual-passporter...yossef bodansky.

before the bushits picked him up and gave him a special role in the republican congress, his initial anti-muslim screeds were published under the auspices of the rabbi friedman foundation. bodansky is a zionist agent. and has been the author of tracts intended to advance the zionist agenda.

as i have said previously, i believe it was the houston-headquartered rabbi friedman foundation[or its board/members] that "saved" george walker bush from hard time for his cocaine trafficking bust. and they have owned him since then.

what has always fascinated me has been how bodansky[and his sponsors] have been allowed to fly beneath the radar by the world's media. he enjoys an invisibility similar to that bestowed on the reverend moon, who also has deep ties to the bushies.

[amazed!]

Thanks Albert.

Skepticon

Regarding the involvment of Israeli interests, things are a little more complex and involved than 5 dancing Israelis.

Hell, we're not even sure whether they were actually Israelis! Perhaps they were Palestinians pretending to be Israelis, but somehow I doubt that.

Dov Zakheim has a pretty solid connection here, as do others.

In this game of manufacturing and manipulating and destroying evidence, it's hard to know much other than the 2 premier agencies involving in such evidence "gathering" are CIA and Mossad.

As for me, I'm going with the predominant European view that it was an operation by Mossad, and I'll throw in CIA too.

[Sanders]

...things are a little more complex and involved than 5 dancing Israelis.

Yes. How many locations did they drive to to put on their little show before they managed to get arrested? Three? Five? I forgot.

Mossad is a tool just like the CIA, and I believe the dancing Israelis incident was staged to document Israel's complicity. (That tells me they weren't the top-dogs in the 9/11 conspiracy.)

That said, great original post, I thought it was very well said.

[dMz]

Wow, the trolls seem to have gotten desperate while I've been away (dredging up the old anti-Semite card). First off- how about a definition of "Semitic" so that we're all on the same page here?

When the trolls get done providing one of those, let's see how it fits in with the following:

FYI- Jewish NOT EQUAL [!= in Boolean logic] Zionist

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

EDIT: Also, so far Barack Hussein Obama walks like a Zionist and quacks like a Zionist, but according to the "Reich Wing Nuts" isn't he supposed to be Muslim (a Zionist's worst enemy we've been led to believe)?

[Omega892R09]

chile was a country i focused on, have focused on for decades. my library concentrates on chile, especially the years leading up to the coup, the coup[11/09/73], and the years following. and i thought that i knew virtually all that there was to know. but naomi klein added a new story.......and that was the pre-planning by milton friedman and his acolytes for the economic shock[transformation] of chile that was going to accompany the golpe.

that was something i didn't know.

Being interested in the background to the Falklands Conflict of 82 (reasons should be obvious) I have become well aware of Milton Friedman and the Chicago Boys who influenced, or actively helped, Pinochet with the bloody coup in Chile and the subsequent influence on Margaret Thatcher (there is another ill behaved tribe).

I have here another interesting book:

Pinochet in Piccadilly: Britain and Chile's Hidden History

And to think that some of those Hawker Hunters that I once worked on were re-furbished and sold to Chile being involved in that coup.

I would like to amplify your mention of

USS Liberty

for Skepticons' benefit.

If you don't know where we are coming from Skepticon then find a copy of this book:

Body of Secrets: Anatomy of the Ultra-Secret National Security Agency by James Bamford

specifically a chapter entitled: Blood

Now as it happens the one time head of the NSA is now head of the CIA, portrait in my sig', so if another Israeli false flag happens anywhere in the world then he has either been derilict in his duty or complicit for he would have known all about the TRUE FACTS of the Liberty Incident and what has followed since.

EDIT: tpyo

This post has been edited by Omega892R09: Oct 29 2008, 01:55 PM

[dMz]

I'm going to speculate here that Skepticon works for either of ADL, AIPAC, or Mossad. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The illusionist cult part is a given IMHO. Any bets?

[Omega892R09]

It is clear most of you have no idea what Zionism really means or what is the concept behind the term. You clearly have very little in-depth knowledge of the history of the middle east, or what decades of leaving under terror means.

You talking to me Budd?

How do you know how much I know about Zionism?

How do you know how much I know about the history of the ME?

Your reaction speaks volumes.

Ever seen a slaughterhouse?
This is what a bus looks like after being attacked by a suicide bomber…only much much worse.

Yes and Yes.

Plenty of the former recently, and not so recently, in Palestine and Lebanon courtesy of you know who.

Ever read any of Jeremy Bowen for example:

Six Days: How the 1967 War Shaped the Middle East

See how invalides are buried in their own homes by bulldozers.

I have a copy here. I was in uniform at that time and later pondering on if my ship was gpoing to be next after Liberty.

See how invalides are buried in their own homes by bulldozers.

Oh! And BTW. My history appreciation of the ME goes back considerably further than 1967.

[Skepticon]

I'm going to speculate here that Skepticon works for either of ADL, AIPAC, or Mossad. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) The illusionist cult part is a given IMHO. Any bets?

Just don't put too much money on this bet…you would be wrong.

I'm in a long and sometimes frustrating debate about 9.11 attacks in an Israeli conspiracy theory forum. Convincing the debunkers had me look hard to find as much hard evidence as possible. I learned early on that speculating gets us nowhere closer to the truth, but facts, math and physics are things that are much harder to argue with. This is when I found web sites such as p4t, cit, AE4truth and more, and that is the reason for me being here.

Now, on a side note and somewhat more personal fashion, I'll just say that Israelis consider USA to be a true friend and ally. We may have difference of opinions sometimes, but I do know we share common enemies. Terror is real, and terror is global. We have suffered terror long before the state of Israel was established, and well before 1967 and the so called "occupied territories". I won't start a history lesson here, nor will I attempt to be likable by all of you (nationally speaking). If you are looking for your enemies, you are looking the wrong way. We are not your enemies.

[dMz]

With "allies" like these... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Thanks to Rico's news post]
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?ed...rticle_id=97339

Members of Israeli spy ring 'related to 9/11 hijacker'
'Lebanon is an open theater for espionage'
By Andrew Wander
Daily Star staff
Monday, November 03, 2008

BEIRUT: Two men arrested for running an Israeli spy ring in the Bekaa Valley are relatives of a suicide hijacker who piloted a plane in the September 11, 2001, attacks, a security source told The Daily Star on Sunday. The Lebanese Army announced on Saturday that it had arrested two people suspected of involvement with a spy network that gathered information for Israel's intelligence services.

The army said that the men had been arrested on Friday, but the source said that they were actually captured two weeks ago and the discovery of the arrests by the media prompted the army to announce their capture.

The army said the men had admitted "gathering information on political party offices and monitoring the movements of party figures for the enemy."

The statement added that the men had been found with "communications devices and other sophisticated equipment," which they used to gather information and transmit it to Mossad agents.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, the source said the men are relatives of Ziad Jarrah, the Lebanese who helped commandeer United Airlines Flight 93 before it crashed into a Pennsylvania field on September 11, 2001, killing everyone on board. Jarrah's family is from the town of Al-Marej in the Bekaa Valley, where the arrests took place.

The Jarrah family have repeatedly denied that Ziad was part of the September 11 plot, claiming he was instead a innocent passenger on the plane, but an official investigation concluded that he was a senior member of the hijacking team who had undergone flight training in order to carry out the attacks.

Residents of Al-Marej told As-Safir newspaper that the men were arrested when security forces raided a home in the town and seized equipment from a car. The newspaper said investigators had found documents which prove that the men had been in contact with Israeli intelligence agents. Investigators said that the men had passed information about the location of Lebanese and Syrian army outposts to the Israelis.

One of the two men arrested, identified only by his initials "A.D.J.," is believed to have been the head of the spy ring. Security sources told The Daily Star that the man was a member of the Palestinian militant group Fatah al-Intifadah, which is known to be active along the Syrian border.

The other man who was arrested is said to be a relative of "A.D.J." and was allegedly involved in conducting reconnaissance work for Mossad in the Bekaa Valley.

Investigators said that the spy ring had been active in the area since the late 1980s.

Retired General Elias Hanna told The Daily Star that Lebanon provided the perfect environment for spies to operate. "Lebanon is an open theater for espionage and counter-espionage," he said. "It has all the elements that are needed in international and regional conflict."

But he said that if the group had been operating since the 1980s it would be surprising. "That's 20 years," he said. "That's a long period of time."

The timing of the arrests was also surprising, he said, given that senior officials in the Lebanese Army had recently been replaced, disrupting the continuity needed for counter-espionage operations.

"You have to work on these cases for a long period of time. It requires information and long periods of monitoring," Hanna said.

"The previous period was chaotic in Lebanon, so I don't know how the arrests happened," he added.

He said the group were probably trying to gather information about Hizbullah, but would not have been able to infiltrate the group. "Hizbullah is an intelligence-proof entity," he said. "It operates with a very high level of secrecy. If you cannot get inside it, you study its environment. This is what we are seeing."

Investigators say the men were tasked with monitoring the movements of senior political figures in the Bekaa region, which lies on the main route between Beirut and Damascus.

Officials are also investigating a theory that the group provided intelligence to the Israelis that may have helped them plan the killing of the senior Hizbullah military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus in February.

Hizbullah's leader, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, has accused Israel of being behind the car bomb that killed Mughniyeh and has pledged that the Shiite group will take revenge for his death.

An Israeli government spokesman refused to comment on the arrests.

"Every couple of weeks there is someone, somewhere accusing the Mossad of something. As a rule, we don't comment on all these accusations," the spokesman said on Sunday.

Meanwhile, the Lebanese Army denied the validity of media reports that linked two men seen crossing the Lebanese-Israeli border on Sunday with the case. In a statement issued on Sunday, the army said that the reports were "confused."

[Skepticon]

With "allies" like these... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yeah, it's in the newspapers…it must be right! (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

Lebanon, the only country in the world – as far as I know – that has a government, but De facto ruled by a terror organization funded by Iran and aided by Syria.

Lebanon, the house of PLO and Phath, Black September, AMAL, Islamic Jihad, Osbat El anzar, some other smaller groups and of course Hezbollah led by Nasralla, master of deception, psy-ops and mess murder.

And talk about hypocrisy, did you stop using high ranking Nazis for you space program, atomic biological and chemical warfare, eugenics…?

Did you hit the "blame the Jew" keypad again like a Pablov dog, or actually stop to think by your self this time?

[dMz]

Did you hit the "blame the Jew" keypad again like a Pablov dog, or actually stop to think by your self this time?

Sorry, but FYI my keypad doesn't have that key- see the link I provided above. As far as thinking for myself, I'm basing my opinions on Israel and Zionists from what I've been told by a couple of people that I know who were born in Palestine, from US military personnel who were stationed in the Middle East, and from my personal/professional knowledge of the US defense industry and the PNAC Neocons (that generally supply the IDF BTW), so it is fairly good information, not just from one Lebanese newspaper. I'm sure certain truths won't be pleasant for you, hence the "anti-Semite" knee-jerk response(s) now.

I've also had a rather strange (for lack of a better word) encounter here in the US with some stranger? who claimed to be IDF "ex-Special Forces." Strangely that exchange sounded just like Skepticon's propaganda, but considerably less civil and possibly a borderline threat.

As far as Operation Paperclip, I very likely know more about all that business firsthand than you ever could. Had you read a few of my book recommendations and other posts here before your tirade(s) you might know this.

Please do address the USS Liberty issue however, I've been waiting to see Skepticon answer O892's post above. Some people might consider that an act of war after all... Or are you just hitting the "blame the moderator" key here?

While we're on the subject of thought processes, that was the Russian Ivan Pavlov with the dog. I don't think I saw a definition of "semitic" from you yet either- see above.

http://www3.niu.edu/acad/psych/Millis/Hist...onditioning.htm

EDIT: Hi cheapchippy- what a surprise.

[Skepticon]

Clearly I don't have as much time as you do, writing long scrolls here, plus I'm sometimes having problems understanding all the nuances and insinuations, but that's my bad English. I came here to research 9.11, because of the horrible implications it have, both domestic (U.S) and globally.

I'm far from being naïve, and I defiantly do not embrace everything I am \ was told by my government. Far from it actually. I'm among a group of people collecting evidence and calling for a new investigation for the late Prime Minister Rabin assassination. We believe this was a conspiracy planed by high rank officials. We have hard evidence to prove it.

With that said, I'll refer to my first response here, that those who claim Mossad was involved in 9.11, have yet to bring any evidence except what everyone heard by the MSM.
Let me hear hard evidence, not propaganda and hidden agendas, and I'll be happy to spread the word and I will be the first to volunteer to lock these people behind bars.

As I said, I won't go into history lessons here. Not because I don't have the knowledge, but because time restrictions, and the feel -by the tone of words spoken here innuendos and biased opinions- that this will be a futile attempt. To me it feels like mob mentality rather than a search for truth debate.

BTW, I'm also an IDF ex-Special Forces, I worked (past tense) for the government, and have a family with a history that have a connection to much of what my country went through. Let me tell you, looking at things from the inside you realize that there are things that are just plain and simple. Not everything must be a conspiracy.

[dMz]

Uh, yeah. The question was USS Liberty for $400, Alex. Now-declassified DoD documents, "insider" US military intel, and James Bamford tell a considerably different story than the "biased" (to use Skepticon's word) version.

The book- Body of Secrets.

http://www.amazon.com/Body-Secrets-Ultra-S...f=cm_cr_pr_pb_t

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_6.3/brandabur.htm

And Skepticon's knowledge of my personal knowledge of all-things MIIC comes from where again exactly? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/spin.gif) BTW I worked (past tense) for ultimately the US Government (it's complicated and private), and IMHO the US Government, M$M, and Zionists are the pre-eminent purveyors of propaganda in the world, and I studied the Soviets for several years. The joke went in Russia, "the US Propaganda Machine is vastly superior to the Soviet one- at least everyone knew it was propaganda in Russia," or something to that effect.

Post #24:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....&p=10739000

Since Skepticon has failed at least twice on that definition of Semitic, here it is:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Semitic

Se·mit·ic (s-mtk)
adj.
1. Of or relating to the Semites or their languages or cultures.
2. Of, relating to, or constituting a subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic language group that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, and Aramaic.
n.
1. The Semitic languages.
2. Any one of the Semitic languages.
[New Latin Smiticus, from Smita, Semite, from Late Latin Sm, Shem, eponymous ancestor of the Semites, from Greek, from Hebrew m.]

You don't want to discuss Palestine now do you?

Sorry on the Pavlov/English thing, but if one is going to repeatedly bring ad hominem labels to bear against me personally, they ought to go prepared and do their homework first. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)