Suspect In 2001 Anthrax Attacks Kills Himself.
Aug 1 2008, 01:28 AM
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The Justice Department was preparing to file criminal charges against Bruce E. Ivins in the anthrax mailing assaults of 2001 that killed five.
By David Willman, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
9:42 PM PDT, July 31, 2008
One of the nation's top biodefense researchers has died in Maryland from an apparent suicide, just as the Justice Department was to file criminal charges against him in the anthrax mailing assaults of 2001 that killed five, the Los Angeles Times has learned.
Bruce E. Ivins, 62, who for the past 18 years worked at the government's elite biodefense research laboratories at Fort Detrick, Md., had been informed of the impending prosecution, people familiar with Ivins, his suspicious death and with the FBI investigation said.
Ivins' name had not been disclosed publicly as a suspect in the case that disrupted mail service and Senate business three weeks after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The Maryland scientist had for years played a pivotal role in research to improve anthrax vaccines, preparing anthrax formulations used in experiments on animals.
Regarded as a skilled microbiologist, Ivins also had helped the FBI analyze the powdery material recovered from one of the anthrax-tainted envelopes sent to a U.S. senator's office in Washington, D.C.
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Aug 7 2008, 03:23 AM
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i dont know what internet search they did, cuz this is all that turns up:
but this guy:
* A separate affidavit from FBI agent Marlo Arredondo sought information about Bruce Ivins's e-mail accounts. Ivins used the following:
-- and of course, firstname.lastname@example.org.
According to Arredondo, Ivins used these addresses to "facilitate an obsession with a sorority group linked to the location of the anthrax mailings." Ivins also used screen names such as "Ed Ivings," "BigSky" and "prunetacos."
* Ivins, using some of the names above, posted messages at AboveTopSecret.com, an online forum devoted to discussions of conspiracy theories, the paranormal, and supernatural subjects. Ivins posted messages and began threads about the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority. Here is a thread at AboveTopSecret.com discussing the "removal of College Fraternity Secrets Threads." Note that "prunetacos" posted in that thread about other boards where he'd discussed the Kappa Kappa Gammas. See also: a list of 50 posts left by "Prunetacos" at GreekChat.com. Many of the Greek Chat posts discuss Kappa Kappa Gamma as well.
truecrimereport points to this thread and the user "prunetacos":
prunetacos apparently has only these posts at ATS:
but at ATS, the fbi/doj alleged post can NOT be found:
another alleged IVINS' online identity, email@example.com, shows no pre-existing posts by that name:
but the local paper (local to ivins) identifies some posts by someone using the kingbadger email address:
At least one commenter, firstname.lastname@example.org, posted comments on the News-Post's website.
The person commented on a story published in May 2006 about a man who was detained at his Tuscarora house after he went to look for a trash can lid, which had blown off the back of his pickup truck.
The man, Dave Twigg, held a flashlight out of his truck late April 30 to search for the lid. An officer with the Department of Natural Resources then tried to stop Twigg, but Twigg continued driving until he reached a lighted area -- his driveway.
The officer threatened to charge Twigg for fleeing and eluding a police officer and illegally hunting deer by blinding them with bright lights, according to the article. email@example.com wrote:
- "I've known Dave Twigg for a long time, and he's a great, honest, law-abiding guy. The DNR agent was more than a bit over-reactive and (testosteronal) in what he did to Dave ... Dave should sue the DNR and the officer involved for what happened."
- "Great ... that's all that night predators need to know: That they can stop anybody, anywhere, for practically any reason and say that they're 'DNR.' Dave Twigg wasn't running from anybody, so the 'attempting to flee' charge is completely bogus — What's next? Arresting kids who have flashlights and are looking in their yard for nightcrawlers?"
- " ... you can go online and purchase 'police car' lights for your vehicle. Scary, huh? Knowing that, how many of us would tell our loved ones to stop at night on deserted roads when unmarked, supposed police cars flashed their lights? As to comment in the previous post about 'salivating lawyers,' I think that the DNR officer's actions would cause many reasonable people to consult an attorney."
After reading an article written about the movie The Da Vinci Code after its release in May 2006, firstname.lastname@example.org commented:
- "Just as 'Ben Hur' and 'Touched by an Angel' were fictional, so The Da Vinci Code is fictional. It's not theology or history, it's a fictional suspense thriller. We were taught in gradeschool that Jesus was 'a man like us in all ways but sin.' So Jesus being fictionally given a wife would make him sinful? Please!"
- "I just finished watching the first showing of The Da Vinci Code at the Westview theaters. It was a good, fast-paced, suspenseful movie. I recommend it, but people should read the book first, so that they can follow it more easily. (It moves VERY fast.) I didn't see any protesters, thank goodness."
- "I saw it also, Erika, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. People forget that the movie and the book are FICTION. The Da Vinci Codes's supposed blasphemy is that Jesus was a Jewish man with a Jewish wife and she bore him a child. Did Jesus sweat? Did he have cavities or get sick? Did he 'go to the bathroom?' We were taught that he was (a) person like us in all ways but sin, so having sexual relations with one's spouse doesn't seem sinful."
but i had no luck in corroborating whats alleged by the feds in the subpeona against ivins. i find it ironic that the feds did what sounds like a public domain internet search (google?), instead of subpeonaing ivins' isp records, so that he could be directly tied to the allegations and not randomly accused by circumstantial evidence. afterall, anyone can post on the net, its hardly evidence-worthy unless someone can prove the true originating source of a particular post.
whats also surprising (or NOT) is that the site in question is ATS, which has long been rumored to be a "spook-run" or a cointelpro site. admittedly however, most of the "proof" of the accusations against ATS come from one source:
personally, i dont like that site (ATS), and in spite of being tempted in the past to join there to defend CIT's research, i have refrained from doing so, purely based on gut instinct. finding them cited as "proof" in a case like this one (anthrax/ivins) does not relieve my concerns about who the hell really runs that site, if anything it makes them more suspect - especially since the alleged ivins' posts are gone. either they were there and removed by site admins, or the gov. is straight up lying about those alleged posts.
more to come...
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