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Aug 1 2008, 01:28 AM
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The Justice Department was preparing to file criminal charges against Bruce E. Ivins in the anthrax mailing assaults of 2001 that killed five.
By David Willman, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer 9:42 PM PDT, July 31, 2008 One of the nation's top biodefense researchers has died in Maryland from an apparent suicide, just as the Justice Department was to file criminal charges against him in the anthrax mailing assaults of 2001 that killed five, the Los Angeles Times has learned. Bruce E. Ivins, 62, who for the past 18 years worked at the government's elite biodefense research laboratories at Fort Detrick, Md., had been informed of the impending prosecution, people familiar with Ivins, his suspicious death and with the FBI investigation said. Ivins' name had not been disclosed publicly as a suspect in the case that disrupted mail service and Senate business three weeks after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The Maryland scientist had for years played a pivotal role in research to improve anthrax vaccines, preparing anthrax formulations used in experiments on animals. Regarded as a skilled microbiologist, Ivins also had helped the FBI analyze the powdery material recovered from one of the anthrax-tainted envelopes sent to a U.S. senator's office in Washington, D.C. more... http://www.latimes.com/news This post has been edited by painter: Aug 1 2008, 02:13 AM
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Aug 11 2008, 08:58 PM
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Simple question:
Who gained anything from that whole incident...? Gerald Ford passed a directive which forbade the CIA to carry out assassinations, interfere with the political processess of other nations, or topple governments...blablabla. And if I remember correctly, then George Bush's reaction to the attacks back then- at a time when the American parliament was effectively paralysed- was to lift precisely that directive: Supposedly to help prevent terrorist attacks with weapons like that on US-soil. I doubt somehow if he would have been able to do that under any other circumstances. Correct me if I'm wrong... |
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Gerald Ford passed a directive which forbade the CIA to carry out assassinations, interfere with the political processess of other nations, or topple governments...blablabla. Yeah, that was funny. Like Nixon's forbidding the US from experimenting with chemical or biological weapons. They went right on doing it, just renamed the Army's bio-weapons program the "National Cancer Institute". (Not kidding btw) Actually though, things have changed - I counted once, and from the 1947 passage of the National Security Act up until the Ford administration the US (mainly the CIA) was involved in about one coup d'etat (or intervention of some kind) a year - give or take, on the average. Now we are not so covert about it - we just go in and bomb. And maybe no one puts much faith in the CIA anymore, not since the failed Venesuella coup of 2002. I hear Dick Cheney hates them. Besides, the CIA accounts for only 15% of the basket of US intelligence agencies. (NSA is far bigger). And who needs the CIA when you can farm that work out to a private company, maybe even one you and your friends have stock in? QUOTE The NYT neglected to mention that CIFA [Counterintelligence Field Activity (DoD)] is the government's most heavily outsourced intelligence agency. Over 30 corporations provide 90% of CIFA's staff--that's a blue green ratio of 1:9. CIFA's prime contractors are the usual suspects such as SAIC. http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/ Anyway, somebody is still sneaking around out there - in places like Georgia. |
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André Suspect In 2001 Anthrax Attacks Kills Himself. Aug 1 2008, 01:28 AM
painter Well, how convenient. A "lone nut" takes... Aug 1 2008, 02:44 AM
Sanders I guess he must-a been the guy who done it!??
... Aug 1 2008, 03:28 AM
rob balsamo Anyone know how the suicide was carried out? Was i... Aug 1 2008, 10:19 AM
painter QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Aug 1 2008, 07:19 AM... Aug 1 2008, 11:54 AM
kiwisteve QUOTE (painter @ Jul 30 2008, 01:54 PM) F... Aug 2 2008, 08:37 PM
amazed! Yes, this allows the government to "close the... Aug 1 2008, 10:57 AM
richard cranium Another patsy. Makes you want to sign a witnessed ... Aug 1 2008, 12:30 PM
painter QUOTE (richard cranium @ Aug 1 2008, 09:3... Aug 1 2008, 01:53 PM
richard cranium QUOTE (painter @ Jul 30 2008, 04:53 PM) W... Aug 1 2008, 01:59 PM
Omega892R09 Hum! I guess that when I saw the title of this... Aug 1 2008, 01:09 PM
richard cranium I just had a thought. Does anybody feel that there... Aug 1 2008, 01:28 PM
painter QUOTE (richard cranium @ Aug 1 2008, 10:2... Aug 1 2008, 02:00 PM
lunk Don't be scared,
be aware and prepare.
imo,... Aug 1 2008, 01:45 PM
Sanders YES painter, America has been on a downward curve ... Aug 1 2008, 04:27 PM
Sanders To be clear, the 6 pointed star on the crest of th... Aug 1 2008, 05:02 PM
maturin42 There is considerable internet chatter already abo... Aug 2 2008, 12:18 AM
Sanders Vital unresolved anthrax questions and ABC News
b... Aug 2 2008, 01:50 AM
Sanders Another article
NYT Changes Anthrax Story…As I ... Aug 2 2008, 02:11 AM
painter RE: Suspect In 2001 Anthrax Attacks Kills Himself. Aug 2 2008, 05:38 AM
André RE: Suspect In 2001 Anthrax Attacks Kills Himself. Aug 2 2008, 06:31 AM
André RE: Suspect In 2001 Anthrax Attacks Kills Himself. Aug 2 2008, 06:40 AM
amazed! A good interview by Keith, but unless I missed it,... Aug 2 2008, 10:27 AM
Sanders Yeah, and the fact that they are going on the assu... Aug 2 2008, 10:53 AM
dMole PNAC/Neocon "housecleaning"...
Dead mic... Aug 2 2008, 11:10 AM
Sanders What's the count up to now, 16 or 17?
http://... Aug 2 2008, 11:59 AM
painter QUOTE No Autopsy
Ivins's death is being inves... Aug 2 2008, 01:08 PM
painter Commentary on DemocraticUnderground:
http://www.de... Aug 2 2008, 01:39 PM
B1informed Did anyone see Bruce's brother on the news thi... Aug 2 2008, 02:54 PM
heliweli Have been reading through the Glen Greenwald comme... Aug 2 2008, 04:25 PM
painter After suicide, feds consider closing anthrax case
... Aug 2 2008, 07:07 PM
heliweli Didn't mean to imply that Glenn Greenwald... Aug 2 2008, 07:09 PM
heliweli QUOTE (painter @ Jul 31 2008, 10:07 PM) .... Aug 2 2008, 07:24 PM
mrodway True, if say he had killed himself using a tank of... Aug 2 2008, 09:03 PM
SPreston QUOTE (painter)After suicide, feds consider closin... Aug 2 2008, 10:56 PM
maturin42 Yessir! The lone gunman this time is a lone mi... Aug 3 2008, 12:13 AM
amazed! I don't quite get the codeine, but I think suf... Aug 3 2008, 02:40 PM
heliweli http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2008/08...ean-d... Aug 3 2008, 04:19 PM
heliweli QUOTE (SPreston @ Aug 1 2008, 12:56 AM) J... Aug 3 2008, 04:23 PM
Sanders Jerome Hauer probably won't be committing sepp... Aug 3 2008, 05:35 PM
heliweli Sanders; Agree with you fully. Aug 3 2008, 05:50 PM
Omega892R09 It would seem that the Fed's have a problem wi... Aug 4 2008, 01:34 PM
amazed! Thanks for the info on Duley.
The anthrax cases s... Aug 4 2008, 03:17 PM
Sanders Why did any of this even happen? Because Ivins... Aug 4 2008, 03:37 PM
painter QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 4 2008, 12:37 PM) Wh... Aug 4 2008, 04:00 PM
amazed! And Lord knows that today's public is as gulli... Aug 4 2008, 03:51 PM
Sanders Exactly. Aug 4 2008, 03:54 PM
albertchampion one of the most disturbing aspects of this death i... Aug 4 2008, 07:24 PM
forthetrees I did a quick search, but couldn't find anythi... Aug 4 2008, 09:50 PM
Sanders QUOTE (forthetrees @ Aug 8 2008, 08:50 PM... Aug 4 2008, 11:17 PM
painter DemocraticUnderground: Anthrax, Bruce Ivins Case R... Aug 4 2008, 11:47 PM
amazed! That they are not doing an autopsy speaks volumes. Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM
painter I think it is interesting how DemocraticUndergroun... Aug 5 2008, 11:03 AM
Rickysa QUOTE (painter @ Aug 5 2008, 11:03 AM) ... Aug 5 2008, 11:52 AM
André This story is getting some traction in the mainstr... Aug 5 2008, 11:59 AM
painter QUOTE (André @ Aug 5 2008, 08:59 AM) This... Aug 5 2008, 12:25 PM
painter TIME magazine asks, How Solid is the Anthrax Evide... Aug 5 2008, 01:04 PM
André QUOTE (painter @ Aug 5 2008, 05:04 PM) TI... Aug 5 2008, 01:43 PM
Sanders What I notice is, they don't even have to do a... Aug 5 2008, 02:08 PM
heliweli QUOTE (Sanders @ Aug 3 2008, 05:08 PM) Wh... Aug 5 2008, 07:41 PM
albertchampion BRUCE IVINS WASN'T THE ANTHRAX CULPRIT. richar... Aug 5 2008, 09:12 PM
amazed! Despite the widespread skepticism, surprisingly ev... Aug 5 2008, 09:39 PM
albertchampion yes, moronism is a religion in the usa.
if anyone... Aug 5 2008, 09:53 PM
maturin42 Has anyone even attempted to connect Ivins to a mo... Aug 6 2008, 12:36 AM
painter QUOTE (maturin42 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:36 PM) ... Aug 6 2008, 01:17 AM
SPreston If Ivins did not have access to equipment capable ... Aug 6 2008, 02:04 PM
painter QUOTE Judge unseals documents in 7-year anthrax pr... Aug 6 2008, 02:22 PM
painter Source: emptywheel.firedoglake blog
QUOTE DOJ Wan... Aug 6 2008, 02:39 PM
richard cranium Let's see, Ivin died on July 29. So,according ... Aug 6 2008, 02:42 PM
jo56 I would like to know why the Social Worker, Jean D... Aug 6 2008, 03:51 PM
painter Released DoJ Anthrax Documents now online: http://... Aug 6 2008, 04:16 PM
heliweli QUOTE (jo56 @ Aug 4 2008, 06:51 PM) I wou... Aug 6 2008, 08:36 PM
albertchampion if you pull on the chain, you end up at biowarfare... Aug 6 2008, 09:14 PM
waterdancer It's good to learn that Ivins had "sole c... Aug 6 2008, 09:42 PM
SPreston QUOTE (Anthrax killer officially declared by feds ... Aug 6 2008, 10:34 PM
paranoia http://www.usdoj.gov/amerithrax/07-528-M-0...20aff... Aug 7 2008, 03:23 AM
paranoia more info:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeFo... Aug 7 2008, 06:00 AM
GroundPounder QUOTE (paranoia @ Aug 5 2008, 09:00 AM) m... Aug 7 2008, 09:01 AM
painter QUOTE afterall, anyone can post on the net, its ha... Aug 7 2008, 11:58 AM
André This is as good as it gets for left gatekeeper ... Aug 12 2008, 12:16 PM
KP50 I found this Salon article posted at another forum... Sep 11 2008, 07:20 AM
dMole Ivins' suicide is waaay too "convenient.... Oct 7 2008, 08:50 PM
dMole It looks like Rivero's research, but it is als... Oct 9 2008, 09:25 PM
paranoia great work on compiling those links Dmole. you roc... Nov 26 2008, 05:25 PM
dMole QUOTE (paranoia @ Nov 26 2008, 02:25 PM) ... Nov 26 2008, 08:16 PM
mrodway QUOTE Anthrax investigation still yielding finding... Feb 26 2009, 09:13 PM
Ricochet Here is the Court documents for the Steven Hatfiel... Nov 26 2008, 06:49 PM
nitatutt Dr. Ivins was never formally charged with any crim... Mar 1 2010, 05:39 PM
nitatutt Good article -
link: http://www.thepeoplesvoice... Mar 2 2010, 07:28 PM
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