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Nist Wtc7 Press Release Thurs. Aug. 21, NIST NCSTAR 1-9 & 1A

dMz
post Aug 19 2008, 01:02 PM
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FWIW, there is a press release and webcast scheduled for 11-noon EDT on Thurs. Aug. 21, 2008.

"The draft WTC 7 investigation report released at the briefing will be open for public comment through noon Eastern Daylight Time on Sept. 15, 2008."

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/calmed/wtc_081808.html

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http://wtc.nist.gov/
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post Sep 12 2008, 07:46 AM
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To emphasize from Dr. Frank Greening's paper above:

"5.0 Collapse Initiation and Propagation

NIST’s computer simulation of the collapse of WTC 7, as presented in Chapters 8 and 12 of NCSTAR 1-9, is remarkable for the low temperatures - as low as 100 °C – at which failures of connecting elements such as bolts and studs are predicted to have first occurred in WTC 7 after about 3:00 p.m. on 9/11. These failures were caused, so NIST asserts, by the thermal expansion of asymmetrical framing beams and girders on the east side of floors 12/13. Nevertheless, in NIST's model, complete separation of column 79 from lateral restraints to buckling is predicted to occur only at temperatures well above 300 °C. Thus NIST’s collapse initiation hypothesis requires that structural steel temperatures on floors 12/13 significantly exceeded 300 °C - a condition I believe that could never have been realized with NIST’s postulated 32 kg/m2 or lower fuel loading."
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QUOTE (dMole @ Sep 10 2008, 09:46 AM) *
... is remarkable for the low temperatures - as low as 100 °C – at which failures of connecting elements such as bolts and studs are predicted to have first occurred in WTC 7 after about 3:00 p.m. on 9/11...

Well d, things are crystal clear.

This is why they didn't want to use water to fight the fires in case boiling water caused more rapid failure of all the joints in the building. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 12 2008, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Sep 12 2008, 07:29 AM) *
Well d, things are crystal clear.

This is why they didn't want to use water to fight the fires in case boiling water caused more rapid failure of all the joints in the building. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Yes O892... fortunately I live at "high altitude" where water boils around 95-97C, so I'm safe to use steel there. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

EDIT: Seriously though, boiling rusted, frozen iron/steel parts is a pretty good way to crack them loose BTW.
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- dMole   Nist Wtc7 Press Release Thurs. Aug. 21   Aug 19 2008, 01:02 PM
- - amazed!   It will be interesting to see, just for the specta...   Aug 19 2008, 02:00 PM
- - forthetrees   "11-noon EDT on Thurs. Aug. 19, 2008." ...   Aug 19 2008, 02:06 PM
- - dMole   Sorry about that (too many numbers go through my h...   Aug 19 2008, 02:16 PM
- - Truthseekers   They are already saying it collapsed due to fire, ...   Aug 20 2008, 04:56 AM
- - dMole   I'm going to "scoop" NIST's pres...   Aug 21 2008, 02:49 AM
|- - Truthseekers   QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 21 2008, 07:49 AM) I...   Aug 21 2008, 06:06 AM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (Truthseekers @ Aug 21 2008, 04:06 ...   Aug 21 2008, 12:12 PM
- - dMole   This press release should be starting in about 5 m...   Aug 21 2008, 10:55 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 19 2008, 01:55 PM) Thi...   Aug 21 2008, 11:11 AM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Aug 21 2008, 09:11 A...   Aug 22 2008, 04:12 PM
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- - dMole   I would like a transcript of this little Q&A t...   Aug 21 2008, 11:29 AM
- - dMole   You notice how quickly that woman's handler th...   Aug 21 2008, 11:45 AM
- - Truthseekers   What a pile of steamin pig S***. It is what was ex...   Aug 21 2008, 11:53 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Truthseekers @ Aug 19 2008, 02:53 ...   Aug 21 2008, 11:57 AM
- - Oceans Flow   I didn't watch it because I didn't want to...   Aug 21 2008, 12:06 PM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Aug 21 2008, 10:06 A...   Aug 21 2008, 12:16 PM
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- - Truthseekers   Funny eh guys?. Dr Shyam (sham) certainly a suitab...   Aug 21 2008, 12:06 PM
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|- - Oceans Flow   QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 21 2008, 09:53 AM) Hop...   Aug 21 2008, 12:59 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Oceans Flow @ Aug 19 2008, 02:59 P...   Aug 21 2008, 01:04 PM
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- - Truthseekers   http://www.denverconstructionservices.co.u...n_ser...   Aug 21 2008, 01:16 PM
- - dMole   I'm not certain if this means NIST will re-web...   Aug 21 2008, 01:17 PM
|- - JFK   QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 21 2008, 01:17 PM) I...   Aug 21 2008, 01:39 PM
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- - dMole   Howard Stern interviewing Jesse Ventura on http://...   Aug 21 2008, 01:41 PM
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|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (dMole @ Aug 19 2008, 05:30 PM) EDI...   Aug 21 2008, 03:03 PM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Aug 21 2008, 01:03 P...   Aug 21 2008, 06:54 PM
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- - Truthseekers   Having gone through this again, and as NIST conclu...   Aug 21 2008, 06:42 PM
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|- - dMole   RE: Nist Wtc7 Press Release Thurs. Aug. 21   Aug 21 2008, 09:05 PM
- - Oceans Flow   This is what you're remembering, albert. Also ...   Aug 21 2008, 09:52 PM
- - KP50   I'm a lazy bugger so .... is there any mention...   Aug 21 2008, 11:49 PM
- - Oceans Flow   LOL. Here's the Popular Mechanics article on t...   Aug 22 2008, 12:09 AM
- - KP50   QUOTE The report clarifies a number of widely deba...   Aug 22 2008, 12:20 AM
- - dMole   Oh wait- they said COLUMN NUMBER 79-- oooohhh... ...   Aug 22 2008, 01:48 AM
- - dMole   Re: the claim of "no water," Sanders...   Aug 22 2008, 01:57 AM
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- - barney_rebel   Mystery solved!!!!!!!...   Aug 22 2008, 11:57 AM
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- - dMole   Here is the transcript, courtesy of a "debunk...   Aug 23 2008, 03:38 PM
- - dMole   From NIST NCSTAR 1-3, Section 7.7.3 [163 of 184, p...   Aug 23 2008, 11:55 PM
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- - Sanders   Awesome   Aug 30 2008, 08:05 PM
- - dMole   Has anyone heard anything recent about any "p...   Sep 11 2008, 09:25 AM
- - dMole   This related thread: http://pilotsfor911truth.org...   Sep 12 2008, 06:29 AM
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|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (dMole @ Sep 10 2008, 09:46 AM) ......   Sep 12 2008, 09:29 AM
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