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WTC1 Victim, Jim Gartenberg, "Core blown out"- calls ABC7 from floor 86 before Collapse

Leslie Landry
post Sep 16 2008, 11:46 PM
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Trapped on the 86th floor of WTC1 by blocked fire doors, Mr James M Gartenberg (age - 36) was just 8 floors below where the aircraft struck. Mr Gartenberg was on the east side of the North Tower facing the East River and the aircraft struck on the northeast side of the North Tower. The core must have blown towards Mr Gartenberg else how could he have seen it? The inner glass was blown out on the 86th floor, but not the outer glass according to Mr Gartenberg. Therefore the heavy core blowing out was almost at right angle to the direction of the aircraft inertia. Eight floors lower and the heavy core blowing out can only be explained by planted demolition charges. Jet fuel burning could not possibly exert that much force 8 floors below the impact zone.

Map of New York showing location of East River - WTC at lower end of peninsula

Is it not odd how the ABC media prostitutes did not want to talk to Mr Gartenberg after he stated the building core was blown out from the inside? Did they have a 9-11 planner on their earphones instructing them on their every move? At 9:32 + 3, they could have interviewed Mr Gartenberg for 53 more minutes until WTC1 was destroyed at 10:28. Why did they not want to talk to him? He was still talking on his phone and those lousy bastards did not want to talk to him.

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On September 11th, 2001 Mr Gartenberg was going to work for his last day at Julien J. Studley Inc. in the WTC. He had accepted an offer from another company in Midtown, and went in to move out and say goodbye.
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86TH FLOOR
James Gartenberg, victim
Patricia Puma, victim
Julien Studley
Portraits of Grief: Love at First Sight
Portraits of Grief: Two Days a Week

James Gartenberg and Patricia Puma were on the 86th floor of Tower 1, well below the bottom of the impact zone on the 94th floor. But they said that access to the exits was blocked by the collapsed walls and debris. They were unable to escape. During the crisis, both Mr. Gartenberg and Ms. Puma had numerous conversations, including three with a reporter for The New York Times. This is their account of the conditions:

``The explosion on the 86th floor seemed to come from the inside out, rather than the outside in,'' said Mr. Gartenberg, 35, of Manhattan. ``That's why the core of the building is as damaged as it is. The fire door is blocked. It either closed from the force of the explosion or as a fire precaution. The elevators are completely blown out.''

Patricia Puma, who worked in the same office, said: ``The wall in the ladies room started to crack -- it looked like an earthquake. The noise and debris falling outside the building are frightening.

``It looked like the explosion came up through the elevator,'' said Ms. Puma, 33, of Staten Island. ``It looks like the firewall came down and I believe the stairs are on the other side of it.''

Mr. Gartenberg said that the interior glass doors were blown out, but the external windows were intact. He and Ms. Puma considered climbing across the debris to reach the stairs, but more debris fell, ``so we backed off.''

The explosion rocked through his office. ``Good God, could we feel it hitting,'' said Mr. Gartenberg. ``I could feel the whole building shake. There was no windows on our floor blown out.''

As he signed off, Mr. Gartenberg asked that his location be given to rescuers. ``I'm not the easiest guy to reach. We need air.''

Interview by Jim Dwyer
http://www.mishalov.com/wtc_northtower.html
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Love at First Sight


''When I first met him, he was running the University of Michigan Alumni Club meeting. He was president of the New York City chapter. I was impressed with his leadership skills, how well he was organized, his intelligence, his presence, his ability to negotiate in difficult situations when there was conflict. I said to myself, 'I want to marry him.' ''

That was in 1989. James M. Gartenberg, a man who would be hugely thrilled to know that Coach Lloyd Carr and the entire Michigan football squad signed a condolence card to his family, took a long time to come to the same conclusion about Jill Freeberg that she had about him.

But figure it out he surely did. Married six years ago, happily ensconced on the Upper East Side, father of Nicole, 2, with another child on the way, Mr. Gartenberg, 35, was moving out of his office at 1 World Trade Center on Sept. 11. His employer, Julien J. Studley Inc., the commercial real estate firm, was shifting him to Midtown.

Mr. Gartenberg spent some of his last minutes on ABC-TV, calmly describing the situation on the 86th floor.

He was making plans to take his family to next month's Michigan-Wisconsin game. He had taught Nicole -- ''his heart and soul'' -- to yell ''Go Blue!'' when Michigan was on television. He secretly fantasized about wearing navy pants embossed with little maize M's when he was suitably old.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html...;pagewanted=all

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“The explosion on the 86th floor seemed to come from the inside out, rather than the outside in,” said Mr. Gartenberg, 35, of Manhattan. “That's why the core of the building is as damaged as it is. The fire door is blocked. It either closed from the force of the explosion or as a fire precaution. The elevators are completely blown out.” http://www.mishalov.com/wtc_northtower.html

86th floor:
``It looked like the explosion came up through the elevator,'' said Ms. Puma, 33, of Staten Island. ``It looks like the firewall came down and I believe the stairs are on the other side of it.'' Accounts from the North Tower. The New York Times, May 26, 2002. Interview by Jim Dwyer
http://911stories.googlepages.com/insideth...ssaccounts91-60
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- Leslie Landry   WTC1 Victim, Jim Gartenberg   Sep 16 2008, 11:46 PM
- - dMole   Thanks Leslie. I hadn't heard this one before...   Sep 26 2008, 11:19 AM
|- - Leslie Landry   QUOTE (dMole @ Sep 26 2008, 10:19 AM) Tha...   Sep 26 2008, 11:51 AM
- - SPreston   Trapped on the 86th floor of WTC1 by blocked fire ...   Sep 26 2008, 05:40 PM
- - amazed!   Fascinating story guys, thanks so much. Such a ro...   Sep 26 2008, 06:02 PM
- - Leslie Landry   Thanks Spreston. By hearing this mans voice on the...   Sep 27 2008, 10:13 AM
|- - SPreston   QUOTE (Leslie Landry @ Sep 27 2008, 10:13...   Sep 27 2008, 09:33 PM
- - painter   I think you're right SPreston. Interesting the...   Sep 27 2008, 12:18 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (painter @ Sep 25 2008, 02:18 PM) M...   Sep 28 2008, 08:14 AM
- - dMole   Thanks again SP, The "tradecenter.gif" ...   Sep 27 2008, 06:17 PM
- - amazed!   I'm with ya Painter. It must be rotten to the...   Sep 28 2008, 05:14 PM
- - Ayla   Very moving to read this story, makes me sad and a...   Sep 29 2008, 05:28 PM
- - SPreston   Taking another look at the Jim Gartenberg video T...   Sep 29 2008, 10:14 PM
- - ogrady   Watch this video and see how the news anchors blow...   Nov 1 2008, 08:52 PM
- - ogrady   That's a go for a move. I thought about the l...   Nov 2 2008, 02:25 PM
- - dMole   Bump, because this is such a sad story, and SO KEY...   Dec 6 2008, 05:49 AM
|- - onesliceshort   QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 6 2008, 11:49 AM) Bump...   Apr 1 2009, 11:33 AM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (onesliceshort @ Apr 1 2009, 09:33 ...   Apr 1 2009, 06:49 PM
- - Sanders   Thanx for the bump, dMole ... I hadn't seen th...   Dec 6 2008, 06:16 AM
- - dMole   (0:28) "...a fire door has trapped us......   Dec 7 2008, 05:19 AM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 5 2008, 08:19 AM) (0:2...   Dec 12 2008, 12:35 PM
|- - dMole   QUOTE (Omega892R09 @ Dec 12 2008, 09:35 A...   Dec 12 2008, 04:00 PM
- - SPreston   Trapped on the 86th floor of WTC1 by blocked fire ...   Dec 8 2008, 09:15 AM
- - dMole   (0:49) "...things are under control at the m...   Dec 8 2008, 03:41 PM
|- - DoYouEverWonder   QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 8 2008, 03:41 PM) (0:4...   Apr 1 2009, 07:30 PM
||- - achimspok   Some might miss that Gartenberg describes the plan...   Sep 18 2009, 06:21 PM
|- - van D   QUOTE (dMole @ Dec 6 2008, 05:41 PM) (0:4...   Dec 29 2009, 09:52 PM
- - bill   After listening to this several times I think pain...   Dec 12 2008, 11:06 AM
- - dMole   I believe here is where one needs to look, paying ...   Dec 12 2008, 04:22 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE This doesn't make any sense. Why remove ...   Dec 13 2008, 01:18 PM
- - SPreston   QUOTE Patricia Puma, 33, mom of 3 called home 4 ti...   Dec 13 2008, 12:17 PM
- - SPreston   Here is an ABC person who talked to Jim Gartenberg...   Dec 13 2008, 12:33 PM
- - SwingDangler   Fear on the 86th Floor; James Gartenberg Called Fr...   Dec 15 2008, 02:27 PM
- - Paul   Right at the moment i am having a little debate wi...   Jan 5 2010, 04:50 AM
- - albertchampion   never waste your time arguing with the ignorati. ...   Jan 5 2010, 09:56 PM
- - nitatutt   albertchampion: in a certain sense, this board is ...   Feb 11 2010, 02:05 AM
- - albertchampion   yes, i understand that sentiment. and, of course, ...   Feb 11 2010, 02:44 AM
- - painter   QUOTE (albertchampion @ Feb 10 2010, 10:4...   Feb 11 2010, 02:57 AM


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