WTC1 Victim, Jim Gartenberg, "Core blown out"- calls ABC7 from floor 86 before Collapse |

Sep 16 2008, 11:46 PM
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Sep 27 2008, 12:18 PM
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∞* M E R C U R I A L *∞ Group: Valued Member Posts: 5,870 Joined: 25-August 06 From: SFO Member No.: 16 |
I think you're right SPreston. Interesting the way the anchors become silent at 1:46 right after he said that portions of the core had collapsed -- as if something else is going on. My guess is there were "directors" in all or most of the control rooms monitoring the broadcasts. Without giving any explanation what so ever, they can give the 'direction' to move on to another subject or caller or another reporter. This direction might come as a mild shock to the anchors (assuming they were clueless) who would naturally view the direction to 'move on' as odd. Why disengage from someone directly experiencing an emergency? But, for them, 'orders are orders'. I'm just guessing here, of course, but that is what it sounds like to me. At about 2:00, after the silence as the male anchor begins talking about bridge closures, you can hear Mr Gartenberg is still talking to someone in the background. His voice comes a bit more to the foreground to the point where he says the elevators have been blown out and then they totally cut away.
This is just about as close to a "smoking gun" as you can get showing media manipulation and strongly countering the official "fire did it" OCT. |
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Sep 28 2008, 08:14 AM
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My guess is there were "directors" in all or most of the control rooms monitoring the broadcasts. Without giving any explanation what so ever, they can give the 'direction' to move on to another subject or caller or another reporter. One would hope that some digging is being carried out to discover who these complicit parties were. Their names should be on any 'to interrogate' list. Also the anchors themselves are not free of censure here not least because they should have some idea who had steered them away from this most telling bit of evidence that explosions reduced the integrity of the central cores early on. These early explosions themselves were reported on by many during filming that day - the clips of which were quickly swept under the carpet by the MSM of all badges. This is another valid piece of evidence to put in the way of OCT'ists who cannot see CD when it is put right under their noses. |
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Leslie Landry WTC1 Victim, Jim Gartenberg Sep 16 2008, 11:46 PM
dMole Thanks Leslie.
I hadn't heard this one before... Sep 26 2008, 11:19 AM
Leslie Landry QUOTE (dMole @ Sep 26 2008, 10:19 AM) Tha... Sep 26 2008, 11:51 AM
SPreston Trapped on the 86th floor of WTC1 by blocked fire ... Sep 26 2008, 05:40 PM
amazed! Fascinating story guys, thanks so much.
Such a ro... Sep 26 2008, 06:02 PM
Leslie Landry Thanks Spreston. By hearing this mans voice on the... Sep 27 2008, 10:13 AM
SPreston QUOTE (Leslie Landry @ Sep 27 2008, 10:13... Sep 27 2008, 09:33 PM
dMole Thanks again SP,
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Ayla Very moving to read this story, makes me sad and a... Sep 29 2008, 05:28 PM
SPreston Taking another look at the Jim Gartenberg video
T... Sep 29 2008, 10:14 PM
ogrady Watch this video and see how the news anchors blow... Nov 1 2008, 08:52 PM
ogrady That's a go for a move. I thought about the l... Nov 2 2008, 02:25 PM
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