Mystery Part At Pentagon Attack Options

[stannrodd]

Hi guys and gals,

I was looking through my files and came across this photo. I did post it originally at LetsRoll some time ago.

I found it on a White House website belonging to Congress woman Berkley. The photo was taken during her visit to the Pentagon on 12 September 2001. The photo was removed not long after it was posted at LetsRoll.

I'm not sure if you have discussed the picture here so I thought I'd table it for opinion as to where perhaps it might fit into an airframe ... is it 757 parts?

(IMG:http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/Mysterypart2.jpg)

A larger image showing the surrounds is available here.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/st...Mysterypart.jpg

Stann (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

[beatles64]

No Clue, sorry...


I would think Rob would know the answer to this...I don't know who any of the other pilots are, but he is one

[dMz]

is it 757 parts?

Hi Stann and thanks for the photo- those seem to be disappearing lately.

Is it... maybe, the primer and materials do appear consistent with some type of aircraft salvaged parts. How many tons of that would you like? If the price is right, you can find literally tons of that at "The Boneyard" just down the road from this place:

http://www.pimaair.org/

BTW- the museum is a pretty interesting place to look around too, if you're ever down nearly-Mexico way.

Now as for that airfield that "doesn't exist" north of there a ways... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

EDIT: I doubt whether "The Boneyard" or that "other" place have public websites, however.

EDIT2: They filmed the action flick "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man" at "The Boneyard" BTW.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102005/

[JFK]

Hi Stann and thanks for the photo- those seem to be disappearing lately.

Is it... maybe, the primer and materials do appear consistent with some type of aircraft salvaged parts. How many tons of that would you like? If the price is right, you can find literally tons of that at "The Boneyard" just down the road from this place:

http://www.pimaair.org/

BTW- the museum is a pretty interesting place to look around too, if you're ever down nearly-Mexico way.

Now as for that airfield that "doesn't exist" north of there a ways... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

EDIT: I doubt whether "The Boneyard" or that "other" place have public websites, however.

Damn... I looked at that pic and thought of the A-team and what they could accomplish in a place like that. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif)

[dMz]

Or MacGyver JFK. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[JFK]

Or MacGyver JFK. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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[stannrodd]

I posted the picture at the F16 forums and one of the responses was that it was possibly part of the space shuttle Columbia which disintegrated on re-entry. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/laughing1.gif) (I didn't indicate the location of the photo.)

I guess my point is, that the part or parts "should be" from a 757, if we are to consume the official fairy tale.

If the parts are from a 757 .. why would they remove the photo ? To me that action in itself indicates that the aircraft from which this piece originated cannot have been a 757 otherwise it would have been left posted.

Stann B)

[dMz]

Some around here will really like the index page of the Pima Museum:

http://www.pimaair.org/aircraft.php

Here's my personal favorite:

http://www.pimaair.org/collection-detail.php?cid=160

(IMG:http://www.pimaair.org/images/collection/SR-71_img_8401.jpg)

[dMz]

One more thing Stann,

If I take a look at the EXIF data, it looks awfully "sterile," except for "File written by Adobe Photoshop¨ 4.0". (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) That was for file "Mysterypart.jpg"

[grizz]

Sorry for the diversion, Stann.

dMole, I lived in Tucson as a kid from '57-'63. We would hear the unmistakable baritone drone of a huge B-36 flying into D-M and run outside to watch it's last minutes of life, on it's way to the Boneyard. We went out there once.

My dad was a pipefitter/welder and worked on the Titan bases. One time, when a base was finished but not yet turned over to the Air Force, the workers were allowed to bring their families to an open house. We toured the underground base.

Last time I was in Tucson I visited the Titan Missile Museum. I'm quite sure it was the same one we toured forty years earlier. On this tour we did not go into the crew quarters, like we did when I was a kid. The tour guide was an actual guy who had manned that base when it was active. Part of the tour is a mock launch, which demonstrates that it takes two people to turn the keys to actually launch. Interesting place if you're ever in the area.

[keroseneaddict]

Hi guys and gals,

I was looking through my files and came across this photo. I did post it originally at LetsRoll some time ago.

I found it on a White House website belonging to Congress woman Berkley. The photo was taken during her visit to the Pentagon on 12 September 2001. The photo was removed not long after it was posted at LetsRoll.

I'm not sure if you have discussed the picture here so I thought I'd table it for opinion as to where perhaps it might fit into an airframe ... is it 757 parts?

(IMG:http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/Mysterypart2.jpg)

A larger image showing the surrounds is available here.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/st...Mysterypart.jpg

Stann (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

Interesting that the piece shows separation above the rivet lines (like cut) rather than along the rivet lines....also, the insulated tubing is too perfect..........the tubing would have separated from the major piece with either massive g forces from impact or explosion....hmmm, no burn marks anywhere or obvious indication of combustion.....Too perfect?

[Bruce Sinclair]

Interesting to note that it appears not one blade of grass has been disturbed. Hard to imagine an airplane part with this amount of destruction coming to rest without disturbing the area in which it came to rest. Looks like someone placed it in this spot. Comare this picture to real airplane crash sites and you will see what I am talking about.

[stannrodd]

Interesting to note that it appears not one blade of grass has been disturbed. Hard to imagine an airplane part with this amount of destruction coming to rest without disturbing the area in which it came to rest. Looks like someone placed it in this spot. Comare this picture to real airplane crash sites and you will see what I am talking about.

Hi Bruce,
When I first found the photo, which is accompanied with Congresswoman Berkeley's photo shoot around the Pentagon on September 12 2001. Includes all sorts of other photo opportunities.

I did save the full web page at the time, and still have it, though the large (click on thumbnail) images I didn't save other than this particular one.

To me it almost looks like a pile of parts, rather than a single piece of debris "as found in situ .. "

The picture of this part/s and it's association with a White House website seem somewhat dodgy when it's removal was initiated soon after it's posting on a "conspiracy oriented website".

My point is ... that this debris MUST be 757 debris if their story is correct and it sure isn't part of a massive impact scenario .. but has been represented as such.


Stann

[SPreston]

I found it on a White House website belonging to Congress woman Berkley. The photo was taken during her visit to the Pentagon on 12 September 2001. The photo was removed not long after it was posted at LetsRoll.

(IMG:http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/Mysterypart.jpg)

Interesting to note that it appears not one blade of grass has been disturbed. Hard to imagine an airplane part with this amount of destruction coming to rest without disturbing the area in which it came to rest. Looks like someone placed it in this spot. Comare this picture to real airplane crash sites and you will see what I am talking about.

When I first found the photo, which is accompanied with Congresswoman Berkeley's photo shoot around the Pentagon on September 12 2001. Includes all sorts of other photo opportunities.

How come they did not run a double row of yellow tape around this other alleged Flight 77 piece at the Pentagon which sat out in front of the helipad for a long long time? That piece looks like it was never ever riveted to an aircraft frame. It even made its way into the official Defense Dept Pentagon 9/11 book. It managed to attain an official yellow tag ribbon for its official photo. Meanwhile another piece with the red 'C' somehow mysteriously appeared next to the helipad hanger and for some strange reason failed to make it into the official DoD book, except for one long range photo.

Images taken from official Defense Dept Pentagon 9/11 book

Official Defense Dept photo
(IMG:http://911files.info/77/pentagon_911_book/fbi_sweep.jpg)

This never riveted piece also did not leave any damage to the lawn nor did the alleged 5 light poles struck by a 100 ton 535 mph aircraft.

(Click me)
(IMG:http://netdet.ninjasquad.org/images/case1/flight77piece2.jpg)

Official Defense Dept photo (Click me)
(IMG:http://911files.info/77/pentagon_911_book/fuselage_remnant.jpg)

Another lawn photo showing the 'C' piece missing from alongside the hanger

Click me for a larger image
(IMG:http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/hatenames/cpiecezoomed4.jpg)

Where is that FBI agent carrying that piece of apparent aircraft fuselage with red lettering from? The van parked next to the hanger?

Where is he carrying the piece to, without any visible tag on it?

How is it that the engines and seats and baggage and wings and tail were allegedly totally disintegrated, but 3 pieces of fuselage showing red 'American' lettering survived?

[stannrodd]

(IMG:http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/stannrodd/Mysterypart.jpg)




How come they did not run a double row of yellow tape around this other alleged Flight 77 piece at the Pentagon which sat out in front of the helipad for a long long time? That piece looks like it was never ever riveted to an aircraft frame. It even made its way into the official Defense Dept Pentagon 9/11 book. It managed to attain an official yellow tag ribbon for its official photo. Meanwhile another piece with the red 'C' somehow mysteriously appeared next to the helipad hanger and for some strange reason failed to make it into the official DoD book, except for one long range photo.

Images taken from official Defense Dept Pentagon 9/11 book

Official Defense Dept photo
(IMG:http://911files.info/77/pentagon_911_book/fbi_sweep.jpg)

This never riveted piece also did not leave any damage to the lawn nor did the alleged 5 light poles struck by a 100 ton 535 mph aircraft.

(Click me)
(IMG:http://netdet.ninjasquad.org/images/case1/flight77piece2.jpg)

Official Defense Dept photo (Click me)
(IMG:http://911files.info/77/pentagon_911_book/fuselage_remnant.jpg)

Another lawn photo showing the 'C' piece missing from alongside the hanger

Click me for a larger image
(IMG:http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/hatenames/cpiecezoomed4.jpg)

Where is that FBI agent carrying that piece of apparent aircraft fuselage with red lettering from? The van parked next to the hanger?

Where is he carrying the piece to, without any visible tag on it?

How is it that the engines and seats and baggage and wings and tail were allegedly totally disintegrated, but 3 pieces of fuselage showing red 'American' lettering survived?

It would seem that the photo is back on her website ..??

http://berkley.house.gov/legis/otr/press_r..._2001_0913.html

Hi-resolution image, right click and save people.

I've uploaded the hi-res image here.. but if you save it and view in an image viewer you will see the full resolution. My browsers don't show th full resolution.??

Click Here

Stann

This post has been edited by stannrodd: Sep 21 2008, 07:38 PM

[dMz]

It would seem that the photo is back on her website ..??

Hi-resolution image, right click and save people.

I've uploaded the hi-res image here.. but if you save it and view in an image viewer you will see the full resolution. My browsers don't show th full resolution.??

Thanks again Stann,

It is strange the effect that mirrored copies of information and the power of community have on our ThoughtBureau. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I cropped that hires image from the Rep.'s webpage, and also did a photo negative filter and a 256-shade grayscale of same (which still showed "Photoshop 4.0" on the original BTW). Sometimes you can see things in the negative or gray that weren't obvious in the color original.

Cropped
(IMG:http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7537/cropmilpentagonreliefplmw9.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img262.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)

Cropped with photo negative applied
(IMG:http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/796/negmilpentagonreliefplanv7.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img219.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)

Cropped, 256 gray
(IMG:http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6470/256cropmilpentagonreliebw5.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img217.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)

These might work better in your browser too.

[keroseneaddict]

Thanks again Stann,

It is strange the effect that mirrored copies of information and the power of community have on our ThoughtBureau. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I cropped that hires image from the Rep.'s webpage, and also did a photo negative filter and a 256-shade grayscale of same (which still showed "Photoshop 4.0" on the original BTW). Sometimes you can see things in the negative or gray that weren't obvious in the color original.

Cropped
(IMG:http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7537/cropmilpentagonreliefplmw9.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img262.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)

Cropped with photo negative applied
(IMG:http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/796/negmilpentagonreliefplanv7.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img219.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)

Cropped, 256 gray
(IMG:http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6470/256cropmilpentagonreliebw5.th.jpg) (IMG:http://img217.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif)

These might work better in your browser too.

Do we have any B757 qualified maintenance guys here that can analyze this piece of wreckage?

[stannrodd]

Do we have any B757 qualified maintenance guys here that can analyze this piece of wreckage?

I'm not an aircraft construction / designer / maintenance etc or whatever.

To me ... the piece looks like it has locking mechanisms on it's left side. Doesn't look like this was torn apart from the rest of the aircraft. Looks like a hatch, cowling, wheel door, engine housing ?? .. something with locking mechanisms.

the hose or pipe ... is this engine dept ?? ... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif)

Stann (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

[SPreston]

I could not see yours d

photo_negative

gray_scale

[dMz]

I could not see yours d

I'm now getting a dead connection to the entire server at http://www.imageshack.us/ Hmmm...

Try these cropped ones (re-upped just now):

Cropped color
http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id3293830795.html

Cropped, color negative filter applied
http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id3293833119.html

Cropped, 256 shade gray
http://www.orbitfiles.com/download/id3293831760.html

Thanks again SP.