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Aug 20 2006, 04:36 PM
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We have determined based on the Flight Data Recorder information that has been analyzed thus far provided by the NTSB, that it is impossible for this aircaft to have struck down the light poles.
We have an animation of the entire flight provided by the NTSB. I have sat through the whole flight from taxi out at Dulles... to the impact at the Pentagon in real time. The screenshot below shows the very last frame of the recorded data. Its stops at 9:37:44 AM EDT (Official Impact Time is 09:37:45). You will notice in the right margin the altitude of the aircraft on the middle instrument. It shows 180 feet. This altitude has been determined to reflect Pressure altitude as set by 29.92 inHg on the Altimeter. The actual local pressure for DCA at impact time was 30.22 inHg. The error for this discrepency is 300 feet. Meaning, the actual aircraft altitude was 300 feet higher than indicated at that moment in time. Which means aircraft altitude was 480 feet above sea level (MSL, 75 foot margin for error according to Federal Aviation Regulations). You can clearly see the highway in the below screenshot directly under the aircraft. The elevation for that highway is ~40 feet according to Google Earth. The light poles would have had to been 440 feet tall (+/- 75 feet) for this aircraft to bring them down. Which you can clearly see in the below picture, the aircraft is too high, even for the official released video of the 5 frames where you see something cross the Pentagon Lawn at level attitude. The 5 frames of video captured by the parking gate cam is in direct conflict with the Aircraft Flight Data Recorder information released by the NTSB. More information will be forthcoming as we come to our conclusions on each issue. (IMG:http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f178/myphotos1960/44.jpg) The FDR Research Team (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif) Feel free to ask questions and i'll do my best to answer them, barring any speculation. |
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Aug 25 2006, 08:43 PM
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The csv shows pressure alt throughout
IAD Depature csv file 08:19:01 41 feet animation 08:19:01 300 feet <~~~ field elevation Climb through FL180 csv file. No change in trend. Pressure alt is reported in cvs file. 08:28:00 AM 18015 30.21 08:28:01 AM 18056 08:28:02 AM 18093 30.21 08:28:03 AM 18132 08:28:04 AM 18170 29.91 08:28:05 AM 18210 08:28:06 AM 18247 29.94 08:28:07 AM 18288 08:28:08 AM 18324 29.91 08:28:09 AM 18364 08:28:10 AM 18402 29.92 Animation. 08:28:00 18300 08:28:01 18056 <~~~ set to 29.92 change in trend. Animation alt matches csv file from here till 09:37:44. 08:28:02 18093 08:28:03 18132 08:28:04 18170 ("snap-back" easily seen on animation file) Descent csv file 09:24:14 AM 18126 29.92 09:24:15 AM 18088 09:24:16 AM 18049 30.23 09:24:17 AM 18011 09:24:18 AM 17972 30.01 09:24:19 AM 17932 09:24:20 AM 17895 30.23 09:24:21 AM 17855 09:24:22 AM 17815 30.07 09:24:23 AM 17775 09:24:24 AM 17734 30.23 09:24:25 AM 17694 09:24:26 AM 17653 30.29 <~~~ no change in trend. (pressure alt reported) 09:24:27 AM 17612 09:24:28 AM 17569 30.20 09:24:29 AM 17526 09:24:30 AM 17482 29.97 09:24:31 AM 17439 09:24:32 AM 17396 30.23 09:24:33 AM 17354 09:24:34 AM 17308 29.99 09:24:35 AM 17264 09:24:36 AM 17221 30.23 09:24:37 AM 17178 09:24:38 AM 17134 30.06 09:24:39 AM 17089 09:24:40 AM 17047 30.23 09:24:41 AM 17002 09:24:42 AM 16958 30.22 09:24:43 AM 16917 09:24:44 AM 16872 30.23 09:24:45 AM 16830 09:24:46 AM 16787 30.24 09:24:47 AM 16745 09:24:48 AM 16703 30.23 09:24:49 AM 16662 09:24:50 AM 16620 30.24 Animation. (no change in trend as was on the climb. Alt was NOT set on the way down in the animation. Im thinking they didnt want to show it set, because it would show 480MSL at 09:37:44) 09:24:14 AM 18126 09:24:15 AM 18088 09:24:16 AM 18049 09:24:17 AM 18011 09:24:18 AM 17972 09:24:19 AM 17932 09:24:20 AM 17895 09:24:21 AM 17855 09:24:22 AM 17815 09:24:23 AM 17775 09:24:24 AM 17734 09:24:25 AM 17694 09:24:26 AM 17653<~~~ no change in trend. (alt still set to 29.92) 09:24:27 AM 17612 09:24:28 AM 17569 09:24:29 AM 17526 09:24:30 AM 17482 09:37:44 csv file 173' animation 180' (discrepancy in feet due to recordings in fractions of a second) Not that it matters.. but either altitude (pressure or true) could not have hit the light poles... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif) |
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johndoeX Flight Data Recorder Research Team Presents... Aug 20 2006, 04:36 PM
johndoeX Its one second.. 780ft/sec.
780 feet represents d... Aug 25 2006, 08:42 PM
johndoeX And just so there is no confusion about the animat... Aug 25 2006, 08:44 PM
driver We have determined based on the Flight Data Record... Aug 31 2006, 09:58 AM
driver We have determined based on the Flight Data Record... Aug 31 2006, 10:10 AM
driver http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf87/248624_web.pd... Sep 1 2006, 06:31 AM
driver What really matters concerning this topic is if so... Sep 1 2006, 12:47 PM
driver mod edit: driver put a pop up site here.. see 4 po... Sep 1 2006, 02:19 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (driver @ Aug 31 2006, 09:58 AM)The eas... Sep 2 2006, 05:10 AM
johndoeX The Radar Altimeter was ommitted from the csv file... Sep 5 2006, 11:14 PM
UnderTow QUOTE (driver @ Aug 31 2006, 09:58 AM)The eas... Sep 5 2006, 11:50 PM
johndoeX QUOTE (driver @ Sep 1 2006, 02:19 PM)mod edit... Sep 6 2006, 12:59 AM
johndoeX All debates on pressure altitude please take to th... Sep 6 2006, 06:06 PM
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