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Learning How To Be Free: An Invitation, from a painter

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post Oct 17 2008, 09:51 PM
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NOTE: The original Topic Title of this thread was "Learning How To Read . . ." but I've changed it in hopes that we can begin to escape the literal associations of the word "read". If "free" suffers the same fate, I may change the Title yet again.


I've been thinking about this for a long time. Months.

Over the course of being a member of this forum, especially in the context of "Alternative Theories," I've occasionally mentioned the necessity of "knowing how to read." Of course what I mean by this isn't directly related to knowing how to read the words you see before you here. All of us know how to do that more or less. If you're not familiar with my having said anything about this, I point you specifically to this post on my pinned and closed 'esoteric' thread here: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....t&p=7894218

A few members of this forum have asked me to say more about what I mean by this "learning how to read" business and it is this that I've been contemplating for a long time now. Having given it some serious consideration I've decided to post and pin this thread here as an open "invitation."

First I am inviting you to engage with me and one another in some discussion here about this topic. However, I am very aware that discussion of this topic is by necessity limited so long as it remains nothing more than discussion. To go further requires something more of us: Specifically a willingness to engage in exercises and experiments which can begin to move us beyond mere discussion into the realm of actual experience and knowledge based upon that experience.

This invitation, therefore, is offered as a starting point in the hope that some of you may wish to go further and take all this to another level. All I will say about that at this point is that the possibility exists, although necessarily limited by this forum/text medium within which we correspond. For this purpose I'm in the process of establishing another forum, participation in which will be by invitation only and will require that users not be anonymous and have a genuine interest in coming to a more direct understanding through observation.

So, I will leave this as it is. Feel free to ask whatever questions you wish and we'll see how this goes.
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post Nov 11 2008, 12:59 PM
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I don't care which title ...

But the action of changing it was as thought provoking as anything in the thread. How to read - how to be free. Call it my own bias struggling with a bizzare language, "thinking" detached from words is a real challenge. They say that learning your 3rd, 4th, 5th language is much easier than your 2nd. I can't say personally, but I know a guy who speaks (fluently) 11 or 12. He's working on numbers 13 and 14 at the moment - just cause he's bored. An Indian (i.e. from India) guy actually - I talked to him about this, about the ability to think in concepts without the attachment of specific words. He assured me it gets easier as one learns more languages ... and that when he thinks of a concept, he sees it in his mind in various languages, but more as an image.

I was horrible at French ... I tried so hard to learn it. But Japanese, which they say is supposed to be really hard, was easy for me. Go figure! ... But, there's a reason, I'm good with images, not words. The Japanese language is based on characters - every word has an associated character - usually with 2 (or more) pronunciations - but a specific meaning. Once you can connect the image to the meaning, you can usually guess the pronunciation. I found this process easy, and I jumped right into learning the characters - I suppose that's why I was able to learn Japanese much more quickly than French. They say that it's a right-brain, left-brain thing, that Asian languages are more suited to right-brain people, Latin-languages to left. I believe it, cause I'm one of those (to a fault) "lefties" (right-brain).

I'm rambling on about this, because its part of my daily life, and I connect to this topic in this way in a concrete sense. But really, in my own opinion, this is all (what "all" means is up to you) a very personal journey. And there are no short cuts ... and there is no "goal" per-se, the goal is always just out of reach - but you reach and you find yourself reaching for the next new level of understanding in a week or a month or a year ... and its all about thinking out of the box - or, should I say, out of 'your own' box. The "box" is the matrix, the reality you have imprinted (allowed to be imprinted) in your head. New ideas can take you outside of your box, you walk around out there a little bit, you reject it or you embrace it, or something in-between, but the important thing is to walk around outside of the box.

Ahhh, life is, ultimately, about taking risks. The more, the greater risks one takes, the fuller one's life becomes - whether they succeed or fail ... because failure actually is the best part - it is from failure that we learn the most. But the risks we take in the way we THINK are the safest of all risks, yet the ones least explored.

"Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth.

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same.

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."



...If you don't know who wrote that, you suck. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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- painter   Learning How To Be Free: An Invitation   Oct 17 2008, 09:51 PM
- - bill   There are quite a few of us here that are of the v...   Oct 18 2008, 12:11 AM
- - painter   Thanks, bill. That's correct, I'm not talk...   Oct 18 2008, 01:47 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 16 2008, 04:47 PM) T...   Oct 27 2008, 09:55 PM
||- - lunk   QUOTE (Christophera @ Oct 27 2008, 06:55 ...   Oct 27 2008, 11:05 PM
|- - gugu2dede2   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 18 2008, 05:47 PM) T...   Aug 6 2010, 04:25 PM
- - Sanders   Thanks painter, I'm finally starting to unders...   Oct 18 2008, 02:25 PM
- - painter   Welcome to the discussion, Sanders. I was hoping y...   Oct 18 2008, 02:34 PM
- - Rickysa   I've been working my way through "A Sense...   Oct 27 2008, 09:49 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Rickysa @ Oct 27 2008, 06:49 AM) I...   Oct 27 2008, 01:51 PM
- - Sanders   I'm truly an amateur at this, and I only have ...   Oct 27 2008, 01:09 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Sanders @ Oct 27 2008, 10:09 AM) I...   Oct 27 2008, 02:26 PM
||- - dMole   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 27 2008, 12:26 PM) (...   Oct 29 2008, 08:03 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Sanders @ Oct 25 2008, 04:09 PM) I...   Oct 28 2008, 12:25 PM
- - lunk   I think it's more learning to discern the trut...   Oct 27 2008, 03:08 PM
- - bill   Learning learning implies that an organism can in...   Oct 28 2008, 01:05 AM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (bill @ Oct 26 2008, 04:05 AM) Lear...   Oct 28 2008, 06:09 PM
- - painter   Whoa whoa whoa! Let's slow down a bit. Ea...   Oct 28 2008, 08:44 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 26 2008, 11:44 PM) W...   Oct 28 2008, 11:17 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Christophera @ Oct 28 2008, 08:17 ...   Oct 29 2008, 01:29 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 27 2008, 04:29 PM) T...   Oct 29 2008, 03:03 PM
- - KP50   I am a product of my background and random events ...   Oct 29 2008, 03:04 PM
- - lunk   Personality can exist without conscious memory. ...   Oct 29 2008, 03:58 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (dMole @ Oct 27 2008, 11:03 PM) Yup...   Oct 30 2008, 01:21 PM
|- - Sanders   QUOTE (Christophera @ Nov 3 2008, 12:21 P...   Oct 30 2008, 04:17 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (Sanders @ Oct 28 2008, 07:17 PM) I...   Oct 31 2008, 04:31 AM
- - lunk   It's interesting that information between comp...   Oct 31 2008, 08:25 AM
- - dMole   Not to completely derail painter's thread, but...   Oct 31 2008, 03:14 PM
- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 16 2008, 12:51 AM) F...   Nov 2 2008, 11:38 PM
- - dMole   I suppose that time, linearity, and a definition o...   Nov 2 2008, 11:56 PM
- - GroundPounder   alright painter, you piqued my curiousity. what d...   Nov 9 2008, 07:38 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 9 2008, 03:38 ...   Nov 10 2008, 04:18 AM
- - lunk   Ooh, hey, my hand's up, I got the answer, can...   Nov 10 2008, 01:40 AM
- - The artful dodger   Fantastic thread... many thanks for posting. Isn...   Nov 10 2008, 10:27 AM
- - dMole   TAD just reminded me of an excellent book that was...   Nov 10 2008, 10:57 AM
- - painter   You probably noticed that I changed this topic...   Nov 11 2008, 03:52 AM
- - dMole   I wouldn't say I'm "caught up" i...   Nov 11 2008, 06:20 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (dMole @ Nov 11 2008, 02:20 AM) I...   Nov 11 2008, 02:48 PM
- - GroundPounder   saw the new title, thought it was a new topic...ex...   Nov 11 2008, 07:28 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 11 2008, 03:28...   Nov 11 2008, 01:45 PM
- - Sanders   I don't care which title ... But the action...   Nov 11 2008, 12:59 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 11 2008, 08:59 AM) ....   Nov 11 2008, 02:02 PM
- - Wingmaster05   To answer the question, "tell me who you are...   Nov 11 2008, 02:52 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Wingmaster05 @ Nov 11 2008, 10:52 ...   Nov 11 2008, 03:16 PM
- - lunk   The answers are everywhere. It's formulating t...   Nov 11 2008, 08:38 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 11 2008, 04:38 PM) The ...   Nov 12 2008, 02:01 PM
- - Rickysa   I am the same person I was as a small child I sti...   Nov 12 2008, 11:57 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Rickysa @ Nov 12 2008, 07:57 AM) I...   Nov 12 2008, 02:30 PM
- - painter   I've written several posts on other threads, most ...   Nov 14 2008, 12:13 PM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:15 PM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:16 PM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:17 PM
|- - sb5walker   Painter, great series of posts - offers me an oppo...   Nov 14 2008, 11:07 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (sb5walker @ Nov 14 2008, 07:07 PM)...   Nov 15 2008, 02:28 AM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:18 PM
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- - Willow   Finding this very interesting, having been asking ...   Feb 8 2009, 12:56 PM
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|- - Willow   Why, thank you Would be more than happy to enga...   Feb 10 2009, 03:54 PM
- - Willow   Been thinking about your ‘go find your question’ s...   Feb 15 2009, 02:10 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Willow @ Feb 15 2009, 11:10 AM) Af...   Mar 9 2009, 12:23 AM
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- - painter   "Attention" is the key to everything. W...   Mar 11 2009, 02:08 PM
- - Willow   Pardon my technical ineptitude (haven't clue h...   Mar 11 2009, 03:12 PM
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- - greenrayriver   QUOTE First I am inviting you to engage with me an...   Aug 7 2010, 11:49 AM


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