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Learning How To Be Free: An Invitation, from a painter

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post Oct 17 2008, 09:51 PM
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NOTE: The original Topic Title of this thread was "Learning How To Read . . ." but I've changed it in hopes that we can begin to escape the literal associations of the word "read". If "free" suffers the same fate, I may change the Title yet again.


I've been thinking about this for a long time. Months.

Over the course of being a member of this forum, especially in the context of "Alternative Theories," I've occasionally mentioned the necessity of "knowing how to read." Of course what I mean by this isn't directly related to knowing how to read the words you see before you here. All of us know how to do that more or less. If you're not familiar with my having said anything about this, I point you specifically to this post on my pinned and closed 'esoteric' thread here: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....t&p=7894218

A few members of this forum have asked me to say more about what I mean by this "learning how to read" business and it is this that I've been contemplating for a long time now. Having given it some serious consideration I've decided to post and pin this thread here as an open "invitation."

First I am inviting you to engage with me and one another in some discussion here about this topic. However, I am very aware that discussion of this topic is by necessity limited so long as it remains nothing more than discussion. To go further requires something more of us: Specifically a willingness to engage in exercises and experiments which can begin to move us beyond mere discussion into the realm of actual experience and knowledge based upon that experience.

This invitation, therefore, is offered as a starting point in the hope that some of you may wish to go further and take all this to another level. All I will say about that at this point is that the possibility exists, although necessarily limited by this forum/text medium within which we correspond. For this purpose I'm in the process of establishing another forum, participation in which will be by invitation only and will require that users not be anonymous and have a genuine interest in coming to a more direct understanding through observation.

So, I will leave this as it is. Feel free to ask whatever questions you wish and we'll see how this goes.
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First I am inviting you to engage with me and one another in some discussion here about this topic. However, I am very aware that discussion of this topic is by necessity limited so long as it remains nothing more than discussion. To go further requires something more of us: Specifically a willingness to engage in exercises and experiments which can begin to move us beyond mere discussion into the realm of actual experience and knowledge based upon that experience.
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I was institutionalized in an American public school. My entire childhood wasted, while I dreamed and looked out the window. I resented that “education”. I then rejected educational brainwashing for my 4 children. Coming up with the motto that, “if someone was gonna fuck up my kids…it might as well be me, since only I love them, and I have their best interest at heart”. Taking personal responsibility for doing things differently than the so called norm when it came to what I wanted my children to learn from me.
Learning is like breathing and eating, you will do it. When a woman is breastfeeding her child, their faces are about 16 inches apart, you are definitely learning on a level you have no control over. It is so primal and evolved, (we are mammals after all). From the moment of birth when baby bonds and imprints, and the baby puts faces to the voices, after listening for months, learning is taking place. Learning what is safe to learn. Learning through touch, being carried on the mothers body. Knowing every event through the physicality of the mothers movements. Survival depends on developing impulses, jump right toward the safety of the trees or left into a tigers mouth. Music and dance innate in each footstep of the mothers grace. And that is just for starters. Learning by living, using nature as a guide. Staying connected human to human, skin to skin. Is it over simplifying to say if you don’t learn naturally, you must compensate unnaturally? Propping a formula filled bottle in a baby’s mouth, and walking away, sends a message…baby reads it loud and clear. You are on your own baby. There may be a right way and a wrong way to learn. Everything else hinges on that beginning, right brain/right breast, switch sides, left brain/left breast. Breastfeeding might seem like it is off the topic of intellect, but to me its not. Breastfed babies have higher IQ’s. Yet breastfeeding is taboo. A woman being available to actually hold the baby, and feed the baby, does not fit into what society deems important. Careers are encouraged, but never a career in mothering. The breast is universal, crossing all language barriers, across time, unused and misrepresented. Talk about dumbing down, from cradle to grave. Break the bond that ties. Create neurotics, you can control. Instead of well adjusted individuals who know how to read the writing on the wall.
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- painter   Learning How To Be Free: An Invitation   Oct 17 2008, 09:51 PM
- - bill   There are quite a few of us here that are of the v...   Oct 18 2008, 12:11 AM
- - painter   Thanks, bill. That's correct, I'm not talk...   Oct 18 2008, 01:47 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 16 2008, 04:47 PM) T...   Oct 27 2008, 09:55 PM
||- - lunk   QUOTE (Christophera @ Oct 27 2008, 06:55 ...   Oct 27 2008, 11:05 PM
|- - gugu2dede2   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 18 2008, 05:47 PM) T...   Aug 6 2010, 04:25 PM
- - Sanders   Thanks painter, I'm finally starting to unders...   Oct 18 2008, 02:25 PM
- - painter   Welcome to the discussion, Sanders. I was hoping y...   Oct 18 2008, 02:34 PM
- - Rickysa   I've been working my way through "A Sense...   Oct 27 2008, 09:49 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Rickysa @ Oct 27 2008, 06:49 AM) I...   Oct 27 2008, 01:51 PM
- - Sanders   I'm truly an amateur at this, and I only have ...   Oct 27 2008, 01:09 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Sanders @ Oct 27 2008, 10:09 AM) I...   Oct 27 2008, 02:26 PM
||- - dMole   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 27 2008, 12:26 PM) (...   Oct 29 2008, 08:03 PM
|- - Omega892R09   QUOTE (Sanders @ Oct 25 2008, 04:09 PM) I...   Oct 28 2008, 12:25 PM
- - lunk   I think it's more learning to discern the trut...   Oct 27 2008, 03:08 PM
- - bill   Learning learning implies that an organism can in...   Oct 28 2008, 01:05 AM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (bill @ Oct 26 2008, 04:05 AM) Lear...   Oct 28 2008, 06:09 PM
- - painter   Whoa whoa whoa! Let's slow down a bit. Ea...   Oct 28 2008, 08:44 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 26 2008, 11:44 PM) W...   Oct 28 2008, 11:17 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Christophera @ Oct 28 2008, 08:17 ...   Oct 29 2008, 01:29 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 27 2008, 04:29 PM) T...   Oct 29 2008, 03:03 PM
- - KP50   I am a product of my background and random events ...   Oct 29 2008, 03:04 PM
- - lunk   Personality can exist without conscious memory. ...   Oct 29 2008, 03:58 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (dMole @ Oct 27 2008, 11:03 PM) Yup...   Oct 30 2008, 01:21 PM
|- - Sanders   QUOTE (Christophera @ Nov 3 2008, 12:21 P...   Oct 30 2008, 04:17 PM
|- - Christophera   QUOTE (Sanders @ Oct 28 2008, 07:17 PM) I...   Oct 31 2008, 04:31 AM
- - lunk   It's interesting that information between comp...   Oct 31 2008, 08:25 AM
- - dMole   Not to completely derail painter's thread, but...   Oct 31 2008, 03:14 PM
- - Christophera   QUOTE (painter @ Oct 16 2008, 12:51 AM) F...   Nov 2 2008, 11:38 PM
- - dMole   I suppose that time, linearity, and a definition o...   Nov 2 2008, 11:56 PM
- - GroundPounder   alright painter, you piqued my curiousity. what d...   Nov 9 2008, 07:38 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 9 2008, 03:38 ...   Nov 10 2008, 04:18 AM
- - lunk   Ooh, hey, my hand's up, I got the answer, can...   Nov 10 2008, 01:40 AM
- - The artful dodger   Fantastic thread... many thanks for posting. Isn...   Nov 10 2008, 10:27 AM
- - dMole   TAD just reminded me of an excellent book that was...   Nov 10 2008, 10:57 AM
- - painter   You probably noticed that I changed this topic...   Nov 11 2008, 03:52 AM
- - dMole   I wouldn't say I'm "caught up" i...   Nov 11 2008, 06:20 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (dMole @ Nov 11 2008, 02:20 AM) I...   Nov 11 2008, 02:48 PM
- - GroundPounder   saw the new title, thought it was a new topic...ex...   Nov 11 2008, 07:28 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (GroundPounder @ Nov 11 2008, 03:28...   Nov 11 2008, 01:45 PM
- - Sanders   I don't care which title ... But the action...   Nov 11 2008, 12:59 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Sanders @ Nov 11 2008, 08:59 AM) ....   Nov 11 2008, 02:02 PM
- - Wingmaster05   To answer the question, "tell me who you are...   Nov 11 2008, 02:52 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Wingmaster05 @ Nov 11 2008, 10:52 ...   Nov 11 2008, 03:16 PM
- - lunk   The answers are everywhere. It's formulating t...   Nov 11 2008, 08:38 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (lunk @ Nov 11 2008, 04:38 PM) The ...   Nov 12 2008, 02:01 PM
- - Rickysa   I am the same person I was as a small child I sti...   Nov 12 2008, 11:57 AM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Rickysa @ Nov 12 2008, 07:57 AM) I...   Nov 12 2008, 02:30 PM
- - painter   I've written several posts on other threads, most ...   Nov 14 2008, 12:13 PM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:15 PM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:16 PM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:17 PM
|- - sb5walker   Painter, great series of posts - offers me an oppo...   Nov 14 2008, 11:07 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (sb5walker @ Nov 14 2008, 07:07 PM)...   Nov 15 2008, 02:28 AM
- - painter   Source: http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....   Nov 14 2008, 12:18 PM
- - GroundPounder   has any body read 'disappearance of the univer...   Nov 14 2008, 01:59 PM
- - lunk   Intuition, vs, subliminally planted predictive pro...   Nov 16 2008, 06:40 AM
- - Willow   Finding this very interesting, having been asking ...   Feb 8 2009, 12:56 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Willow @ Feb 8 2009, 08:56 AM) ......   Feb 9 2009, 03:12 AM
|- - Willow   Why, thank you Would be more than happy to enga...   Feb 10 2009, 03:54 PM
- - Willow   Been thinking about your ‘go find your question’ s...   Feb 15 2009, 02:10 PM
|- - painter   QUOTE (Willow @ Feb 15 2009, 11:10 AM) Af...   Mar 9 2009, 12:23 AM
- - Sanders   You know, for any Kubrick fans out there there is ...   Mar 11 2009, 01:42 PM
- - painter   "Attention" is the key to everything. W...   Mar 11 2009, 02:08 PM
- - Willow   Pardon my technical ineptitude (haven't clue h...   Mar 11 2009, 03:12 PM
- - The artful dodger   Willow, although I could turn around 180 degrees a...   Mar 11 2009, 03:22 PM
|- - Willow   QUOTE (The artful dodger @ Mar 11 2009, 07...   Mar 11 2009, 03:29 PM
- - The artful dodger   Sorry Painter - you've already been there...   Mar 11 2009, 03:29 PM
- - greenrayriver   QUOTE First I am inviting you to engage with me an...   Aug 7 2010, 11:49 AM


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