Question On Passenger Forensics.... Options

[jimigunne]

I am no expert like the pilots behind this organization, but I have a question, something on my mind about the Pentagon attack.
Since we do not have access to any of the wreckage of the supposed AA 757, there is only one avenue left to substantiate if this
flight actually did crash into the Pentagon....forensics of the victims (and their possessions) who were on-board. This is a rather
morbid topic, but necessary. Were any remains, even if partial, delivered to the families? Is it publicly known if any of them
positively identified remains of their loved ones? Did any of them even receive any remains or personal items? Was the
crash victim processing handled entirely by the government? Were there any identifiable personal items from people aboard this
flight found at the Pentagon? Surely jewelry items would have survived. Has anyone tried to contact any of the victims' relatives
about this? What do THEY say?

[Ricochet]

The post mortems for the pentagon victims were done by the AFIP. Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. Unlike the WTC victims who were processed by KADAP. Flight 587 Nov 12 crash was also processed at AFIP. The autopsies were completed in 1 month for flight 587. The reason was because all of the infrastucture was in place at the OCME (Office of the Chief Medical Examiner)for the victims of the WTC.
Now let's take a look at this and see if I can lay it out. The following webpage is the President's DNA Inititive, DNA evidence in mass fatality events. http://massfatality.dna.gov/. Next is the full report in pdf http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/214781.pdf . Nowhere in these 2 reports is there mention of Pentagon or UAL 93 or any other 9/11 flight. Only the WTC and AA587. Other reports show that Pentagon and UA93 were done at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. Why would they do UA 587 at the DNA Inititive and not Pentagon and UA 93?
They only managed to id about 54% of WTC victims which means that they don't need to muck about talking about hijackers, just everyday people. AA587 everyone accounted for and identified within 1 month, it was a closed system. Passengers, crew and 5 locals, easy enough to sort out. Pentagon and AA77 and UA 93 also closed systems, passengers, crew and a relatively small number of personel missing at Pentagon and 93 just pax and crew. The AFIP would only have to issue results and not have to do any identifying at all! This would eliminate the need for real DNA from passengers and crew. Therefore no real need for the 2 aircraft as well. I am waiting for a password from the European scientist who developed the software used for identifiying mass casualty DNA. It is supposed to be free by email request, then I can look through his database for more clues. I will post more as I research this.

[Smrekar]

I am waiting for a password from the European scientist who developed the software used for identifiying mass casualty DNA. It is supposed to be free by email request, then I can look through his database for more clues. I will post more as I research this.

What's the name of this software and where can it be obtained? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[amazed!]

Who is KADAP and where are they based?

[Ricochet]

Who is KADAP and where are they based?

Kinship and Data Analysis Panel, a product of the National Institute of Justice (NIJ). The gubermint, not sure where they are based. Here are the directors.

Kinship and Data Analysis Panel
The Kinship and Data Analysis Panel ("KADAP") made recommendations to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of New York City during the identification of World Trade Center victims. It is those recommendations that form the foundation of this report. The members of the KADAP—with their professional affiliations during the time that the majority of the panel's work was performed—appear here.

Joan E. Bailey-Wilson, Ph.D.
Inherited Disease Research Branch
National Human Genome Research Institute
National Institutes of Health
Baltimore, MD

Jack Ballantyne, Ph.D.
University of Central Florida
Department of Chemistry
Orlando, FL

Howard Baum, Ph.D.
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
New York, NY

Frederick R. Bieber, Ph.D.
Brigham and Women’s Hospital
Harvard Medical School
Boston, MA

Leslie G. Biesecker, M.D.
National Human Genome Research Institute
National Institutes of Health,
Bethesda, MD

Charles Brenner, Ph.D.
University of California, Berkeley
School of Public Health
Oakland, CA

Bruce Budowle, Ph.D.
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Laboratory Division
Quantico, VA

P. Michael Conneally, Ph.D.
Indiana University School of Medicine
Department of Medical and Molecular Genetics
Indianapolis, IN

John Butler, Ph.D.
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Gaithersburg, MD

George R. Carmody, Ph.D.
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

W. Mark Dale, MBA
Northeast Regional Forensic Institute
University at Albany, State University of New York
Albany, NY

Barry Duceman, Ph.D.
New York State Police
Forensic Investigation Center
Albany, NY

Arthur J. Eisenberg, Ph.D.
DNA Identity Laboratory
Department of Pathology and Anatomy
University of North Texas Health Science Center
Fort Worth, TX

Kenneth K. Kidd, Ph.D.
Yale University School of Medicine
Department of Genetics
New Haven, CT

Lisa Forman, Ph.D.
National Institute of Justice
U.S. Department of Justice
Washington, D.C.

Benoît Leclair, Ph.D.
Myriad Genetic Laboratories, Inc.
Salt Lake City, UT

Steve Niezgoda, MBA
Technical Consultant, National Institute of Justice
Niezgoda Consulting
Bristow, VA

Elizabeth Pugh, Ph.D.
Johns Hopkins University
Center for Inherited Disease Research
Baltimore, MD

Robert Shaler, Ph.D.
Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
New York, NY

Stephen Sherry, Ph.D.
National Center for Biotechnology Information
National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, MD

Amanda Sozer, Ph.D.
Technical Consultant, National Institute of Justice
DNA Technology Consulting Services, LLC
Fairfax Station, VA

Thomas J. Parsons, Ph.D.
Department of Defense DNA Registry
Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory
Armed Forces Institute of Pathology
Rockville, MD

Anne Walsh, Ph.D.
Biggs Laboratory
Wadsworth Center
New York State Department of Health
Albany, NY

What's the name of this software and where can it be obtained?

The link I had originally found this from is dead (autopsy needed?) I shall try to re-aquire this info!

[Ricochet]

What's the name of this software and where can it be obtained? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This is not the same one I had originally found but dig through this and see what you come up with.

http://dna-view.com/index.html#Software

[dMz]

As many of the victim's lists have been "disappearing" from the MSM sources, here are some from the Boston Globe:

AA77
http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11...ms/flight77.htm

Pentagon
http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11...ms/pentagon.htm

Related threads are at:

About Passengers...? Didnt Hit Pentagon?, Then where are they?!?
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=7591

Where Might Be The Bodies (like Barbara Olsen)?, Claims (or theories) about victims' bodies?
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=13537