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[Omega892R09]

That image from a lunk post in dMole's #125 post is very interesting.

This is the first time I have seen this and that area of coverage from France and up across the UK fits in with my observation of trails.

Contrails here normally form at around 38K feet. This was specifically the height chosen for the airspeed record runs of the Fairey Delta 2 in 1956 because it provided a method for the trackers operating timing cameras to follow the FD2 as it approached the camera positions. I have a signed copy of the pilot's (Peter Twiss) book 'Faster Than The Sun' here.

Am I correct in thinking that the 'chemtrails' are somewhat higher?

Now as for the effect on UV light the fact that sunsets are often spectacularly red of recent years is indicative of extra filtering of the blue end of the visible light spectrum and including UV light.

Now it is know that insect, including bees, see the world very differently having vision sensitive in the UV-Blue wavelengths. Could the lack of UV light be one of the factors affecting bees and leading to their decline? GM crops and associated pesticides could be another of course and the toxic effects of the materials being sprayed, and thus descending to the earth, could be another factor.

Sorry for the repeat bleat but because my Virgin Media broadband (HA!) connection is so poor I cannot sensible follow threads here that involve large pictures and or video clips. I end up with big blank spaces where pictures should be and my DialUp connection pops up all the time informing me that the BB has died again. I have contacted customer support but they deny it is them and that they do not support third party routers. Virgin have had a big recruiting add campaign recently.

But for this I would have participated in the recent AceBaker thread amongst a number of others.

EDIT: syntax

This post has been edited by Omega892R09: Nov 28 2008, 01:44 PM

[lunk]

Good point.

I'll just post links to my future pictures,
unless they are very significant/unique.

or it will take a long time for the page to load.

I have seen planes, leaving a persistent trail,
flying low enough to clearly see the wings.
I don't remember them flying this low before.
There are still very high altitude flights leaving trails.

I think, if I stood under a vertical cliff, and watched for a plane,
I could calculate the altitude from the length of time,
it takes the sound from that plane to arrive.

imo, lunk

[beatles64]

Good point.

I'll just post links to my future pictures,
unless they are very significant/unique.

or it will take a long time for the page to load.

I have seen planes, leaving a persistent trail,
flying low enough to clearly see the wings.
I don't remember them flying this low before.
There are still very high altitude flights leaving trails.

I think, if I stood under a vertical cliff, and watched for a plane,
I could calculate the altitude from the length of time,
it takes the sound from that plane to arrive.

imo, lunk

I have also been able to see the wings on these planes, but sadly, I do not possess a camera....but...I do have a telescope... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/yes1.gif)

[dMz]

I have also been able to see the wings on these planes, but sadly, I do not possess a camera....but...I do have a telescope... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/yes1.gif)

Hi beatles64,

Please consider the mistakes made by one of "our" mentors Galileo, and keep the telescope pointed away from the sun. Another old trick is a piece of black construction paper with a few strips of tape around the scope. (It also helps cut "noisy" light "rays" but I digress).

Thankfully Galileo recanted all this "round earth" business... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f...ecantation.html

[dMz]

Sorry for the repeat bleat but because my Virgin Media broadband (HA!) connection is so poor I cannot sensible follow threads here that involve large pictures and or video clips. I end up with big blank spaces where pictures should be and my DialUp connection pops up all the time informing me that the BB has died again. I have contacted customer support but they deny it is them and that they do not support third party routers. Virgin have had a big recruiting add campaign recently.

But for this I would have participated in the recent AceBaker thread amongst a number of others.

EDIT: syntax

HINT: for O892:

"Load images automatically: Firefox displays images in web pages by default. Uncheck this optionpreference to disable images in web pages.
If you enable loading images automatically, the Exceptions... button lets you select sites from which images will not automatically load. The Exceptions... button lets you specify web sites that you wish to load (or not load) regardless of the setting of this preference. In the exceptions list, enter the site from which you want to allow or block images and click Allow to allow images, or click Block to block the images. "

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Options+window

[Used to meet for beer & pizza with one or two of those Mozilla chaps back in the day (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ]

P.S. I block the SH*T out of most scripts too...

[lunk]

It finally rained again.

My rain water has a pH of 8.2
My tap water is 8
My well water is 7.8

It's not acid rain.

Now, all I got to do is collect some condensation from the air,
and measure its' potential-Hydrogen.

...Don't alkali metals form caustic salts?

imo, lunk

[dMz]

Red cabbage juice makes a pretty good pH meter too, if you have a cabbage or two handy.

Have you ever measured the pH of common cola "soft" drinks?

http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa012803a.htm

Just don't drop your Mentos in the soda bottle.

[lunk]

I made some wine from a bag one time,
it was all chemicals, artificial flavoring,
yeast, artificial colouring, etc.
Just add sugar and water and wait for 30 days!
I watched the rich red liquid finish fermenting, and bottled it.
Simple!

The next day, all my wine, turned blue.
I never drank a drop.
...sort of glad, now, looking back...

[dMz]

Hacking Mountain Dew

Mountain Dew Glows!!!! Mountain Light Hack!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1z67CMpnVo



But the green and the orange Mountain Dew didn't work, the day we tried it. Maybe our hydrogen peroxide was "tired." I think you'll have better luck if you break a chemical lightstick into your Mountain Dew first (but careful with the glass shards).

Ever seen a raver chikky with a blue luminescent eyeball before? That was wild (I was working EMT/security for some college friends that night), but she recommended not doing it twice (or maybe drinking Mountain Dew either).

Bagged wine is excellent when camping though, once you burn the box (shh- there will be a carbon tax). It makes a good toy to volley around/over the campfire, too. We used to cook our fish in old newspapers and boil water in paper cups too. Ah, "misspent" youth...

[dMz]

I did know this.

"Dangers

Glow sticks contain hydrogen peroxide, and phenol is produced as a by-product. Therefore, it is advisable to keep the mixture away from skin, and to prevent accidental ingestion, if the glow stick case splits or breaks. If spilled on skin, the chemicals could cause slight skin irritation or, in extreme circumstances, cause vomiting and nausea. However, many ravers will cut or break open a glow stick and apply the glowing solution directly to bare skin in order to make their bodies glow. It has been said that glow stick chemicals cause cancer,[8] although no research has suggested that they might. Also it is wise to avoid all contact with thin membranes such as the eye or nasal area. Despite reports to the contrary, it is not safe to smoke or ingest glowing phenol, and it will not produce any drug-like effects. The fluid contained in glow sticks can also dissolve some types of plastic.

Wash with soap and water if liquid comes in contact with the skin. Flush eyes immediately with cool water if liquid comes in contact with the eyes. Some of the chemicals in glow sticks are flammable."

I did not know that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glow_stick

"Chemistry

The glow stick contains two chemicals and a suitable fluorescent dye (sensitizer, or fluorophor). The chemicals in the plastic tube are a mixture of the dye and Cyalume. The chemical inside the glass vial is hydrogen peroxide. By mixing the peroxide with the phenyl oxalate ester, a chemical reaction takes place; the ester is oxidized, yielding two molecules of phenol and one molecule of peroxyacid ester. The peroxyacid decomposes spontaneously to carbon dioxide, releasing energy that excites the dye, which then deexcites by releasing a photon. The wavelength of the photon—the color of the emitted light—depends on the structure of the dye."

[lunk]

I think what happened with my wine was the red, artificial colouring,
happened, to be an pH indicator, and when I decanted my bucket,
the newly created alcohol started oxidizing into vinegar,
changing the pH and the colour of the indicator, toothpaste blue.

[lunk]

A little more on the rainwater test.
I used an electronic pH tester on rainwater I collected, in the open, in a giant stainless steel, kitchen, mixing bowl. The tap water is from a creek fed reservoir down hill supply, and the well water is from a covered hole in the ground.
The pH meter is averaged to 1 decimal point.

There are other ways to measure pH like the red cabbage method as noted by Dmole.
It would probably be better to use a pH indicator paper, though.

I thought that with all the CO2, nitrates and sulfates in the atmosphere, rainwater would be acidic,
if anything, from carbonic acid, nitrous, and sulfurous acids forming from these gasses. Yet I found it to be slightly basic, could this be the result of something, somehow added, in these jet trails.

I welcome anyone to post results of the pH of their rainwater.

[dMz]

That image from a lunk post in dMole's #125 post is very interesting.

This is the first time I have seen this and that area of coverage from France and up across the UK fits in with my observation of trails.

Contrails here normally form at around 38K feet. This was specifically the height chosen for the airspeed record runs of the Fairey Delta 2 in 1956 because it provided a method for the trackers operating timing cameras to follow the FD2 as it approached the camera positions. I have a signed copy of the pilot's (Peter Twiss) book 'Faster Than The Sun' here.

Am I correct in thinking that the 'chemtrails' are somewhat higher?

Now as for the effect on UV light the fact that sunsets are often spectacularly red of recent years is indicative of extra filtering of the blue end of the visible light spectrum and including UV light.

I'll appeal to the others here on the "altitude" thing. I just took this [EDIT: Optically Zoomed to MAX ]photo a few days ago personally, with O892's question specifically in mind [potentially many more photos to follow BTW, so disable the automatic images- beware, plus I'll try to hot-link thumbnail on the uploads].

(IMG:http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4383/25palto20324vx6.th.jpg)

These are "normal clouds," "contrails," "pass the crack pipe," or ?? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/whistle.gif) (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8463/50privs0325hp0.th.jpg)

EXPERIMENT: Create a mound of flour, "masa," corn starch, "aerosol," etc. Pour a tablespoonful of liquid part-way up the mound, and see what pattern you observe. :HINT

OK all you meteorologists out there (and WTF is up with that name for "weather scientists" BTW): WTF type of "cloud" is/are this/these one(s) that I recently photographed- hmmm???

(IMG:http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5813/50pcloud281qx4.th.jpg)

P.S. I've got about 1GB/one week's worth more photos- mostly regarding a "Vanilla Sky," or a "Strawberry" one...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0259711/

[Not so quiet on the Western Aerosol Front... (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif) ] (pun semi-intended)

[albertchampion]

i got this simple video camera the other day. a flip mino hd.

imagine my surprise this morning when i watched contrails being formed at very low altitudes over montgomery county, texas.

i would put the altitude at less than 3,500 ft.

the surface temp was 46 F.

having this new flip mino, i broke it out of its box and shot the contrail[sic].

i seem to have gotten the pix.

how do i transfer those images to this site for your assessment?

to me, this record reveals something other than a contrail.

[dMz]

Dunno on your "new-tech" Albert- you've stumped me there (not necessarily the easiest thing to do BTW). I'm mostly lost on how you get/convert the still images from the video part for your specific, new hardware. I think that our forum member "JFK" here is pretty versed in all this video conversion business IIRC. The "movie" part will likely be in a .FLV, .MP4, or .WMV format, and you could probably just upload the whole video to a "free" server somewhere (but they are very filesize restrictive IIRC). A few other of our forum "regulars" work more with the video format than I do- perhaps they will pitch in, but this is a relatively "obscure" thread lately.

Once you've got the stills, I know a few ways to host/upload them (although I prefer the "hot-uplink" that doesn't require logins and personal information, and my "thumbnails" have been criticized before here). I also know a couple of ways to "strip" electronically-"branded" (EXIF and "other") information off of a still photo if that is a concern.

Also, the "lion's share" of my photos were likely taken from the "driver's seat" of a moving vehicle while driving. Please don't tell the local? authorities and please do judge the photos accordingly. (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

EDIT: There is always the ubiquitous Apple Quicktime .MOV format as well. That is quite likely as well FWIW...

[dMz]

Just for comparison, here is what I would term a "normal, old" Western sunset with ONE obvious, proper contrail present... There is the issue of those lingering, linear "clouds," but I digress...

(IMG:http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1645/25psundown230og8.th.jpg) '

BTW, some call the West Wind "Mariah:"

(IMG:http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3328/25pwwsundown0291ho8.th.jpg)

The "desert clay" has been known to get angry before (c'mon O892, try some clay (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ), but here is a photo that I will leave you all to discuss:

(IMG:http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8071/50pmariah0422ue4.th.jpg)

Again, please discuss...

[bill]

I flew out to Kansas City Last week

according to the captain our cruising altitude was 33,000

The visible chemtrails were about 2 or 3 thousand feet above us

This is very consistent with my observations over the years.

the old car odometer method reliably gives me 7 miles or about 35,000 feet.

I take a siting of the chemtrail at a 45 degree angle and note the mileage, when the chemtrail is directly overhead I note the mileage again

there is clearly some error in this method but it gives remarkably consitent results of 7 miles

on a side note when we came into O'Hare we turned 'base' just west of downtown Chicago, it was late afternoon and the sun side lit the buildings of Chicago with a beautiful golden hue -- it was a remarkable sight, one of those 'wow look at that' events that I never seem to have a camera at hand for.....


as for up loading pics and video it is fairly easy albert. just set up a photobucket account -- you can use a throwaway email account for annonimity -- they do a good job on video but it is fairly slow to upload

http://photobucket.com/

I use it to post most of my vids here -- you just use C&P the embed code and "turn on html" in the 'post options' at the bottom of the post down there

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[bill]

d

I see that type of 'white out' light scattering alot here in the midwest

many times the sun is just a very large white glowing area of the sky

this would be consistent with particles of aluminum or barium

[lunk]

d

I see that type of 'white out' light scattering alot here in the midwest

many times the sun is just a very large white glowing area of the sky

this would be consistent with particles of aluminum or barium

Would that be reflective or refractive light scattering?

Me think reflective,
...but there may actually be some refractive water vapor, involved too.

imo, lunk

[grizz]

Kind of random...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPqCMIuEk4